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Post by koba on May 26, 2017 11:47:16 GMT
I am from Russia, so it's not available for me on some websites (7digital) In the most popular web shops ABBA doesn't exist. Give me a hint, please!
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Post by wombat on May 26, 2017 16:24:05 GMT
can you not buy the CDs and then rip flac tracks yourself?
just curious...
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Post by koba on May 27, 2017 4:50:11 GMT
No, I can't and I don't need the CD. In which century are we living? Why it isn't possible to buy a digital version? Why do we need Hi-fi players then?
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Post by Fafner on May 27, 2017 14:37:00 GMT
Does it have to be FLAC? The AAC files you buy on itunes sound as good as any FLAC file.
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Post by koba on May 27, 2017 15:10:15 GMT
Are you sure that there is no other way?
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Post by Fafner on May 27, 2017 15:15:05 GMT
Are you sure that there is no other way? Well, at least I can't hear any difference. AAC encodes at 256 kbs but unlike mp3's they don't shave off high frequencies and go up to 22 khz, you can easily see this on software like audacity. |
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Post by koba on May 27, 2017 15:28:40 GMT
Will it be possible to save the AAC file on the PC and copy it on my hi-fi player, or I will be able to play the tracks only in Apple Music?
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Post by Fafner on May 27, 2017 15:30:43 GMT
Will it be possible to save the AAC file on the PC and copy it on my hi-fi player, or I will be able to play the tracks only in Apple Music? Yes, you can save them to your computer and play them on whatever you want, if your equipment supports m4a playback. |
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Post by wombat on Jun 1, 2017 14:20:57 GMT
No, I can't and I don't need the CD. In which century are we living? thats hilarious given that you are trying to find music from the 1970s. |
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Post by Liebezeit on Jun 1, 2017 18:15:28 GMT
No, I can't and I don't need the CD. In which century are we living? thats hilarious given that you are trying to find music from the 1970s. Aren't DRM-protected/manufactured CDs meant to be played on a Hi-Fi system? (Depending on which brand name it is) I don't see the point of "buying digital music online and then burning it to your personal CD-R" except for the case where you bought 'ABBA: The Album' with a 'Mastered for iTunes' notice and burning to a personal CD... |
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Post by Fafner on Jun 1, 2017 18:19:09 GMT
thats hilarious given that you are trying to find music from the 1970s. Aren't DRM-protected/manufactured CDs meant to be played on a Hi-Fi system? (Depending on which brand name it is) I don't see the point of "buying digital music online and then burning it to your personal CD-R" except for the case where you bought 'ABBA: The Album' with a 'Mastered for iTunes' notice and burning to a personal CD... Wombat was talking about ripping not burning (since the op is interested in digital files). |
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Post by Liebezeit on Jun 1, 2017 18:42:25 GMT
Aren't DRM-protected/manufactured CDs meant to be played on a Hi-Fi system? (Depending on which brand name it is) I don't see the point of "buying digital music online and then burning it to your personal CD-R" except for the case where you bought 'ABBA: The Album' with a 'Mastered for iTunes' notice and burning to a personal CD... Wombat was talking about ripping not burning. I still think it's pointless that you should buy digital and burn onto personal CD-R or copy it to another media, to play on a HiFi system - however on the other side I find ripping to be more practical since you retain the original commercial CD medium (and using the CD for a HiFi system because that's the whole point of it, unless someone has an iPod...) and the ripped file's CD-like audio quality (I'm personally not a fan of M4A, which may occasionally go lossy... whoops), if chosen with FLAC, OGG, or WAV (so as to listen to it on iTunes, but I'm aware it would not show the ripped album as already purchased. But if anybody wants to take the opposite route, I couldn't care.) |
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Post by Fafner on Jun 1, 2017 18:46:20 GMT
Wombat was talking about ripping not burning. I still think it's pointless that you should buy digital and burn onto personal CD-R or copy it to another media, to play on a HiFi system - however on the other side I find ripping to be more practical since you retain mostly the original commercial CD medium (and using it for a HiFi system because that's the whole point of it, unless if it's an iPod...) and the ripped file's CD-like audio quality, if chosen with FLAC, OGG, or WAV (so as to listen to it on iTunes, but I'm aware it would not show the ripped album as already purchased. But if anybody wants to take the opposite route, I couldn't care.) But no one was talking about burning, why did you bring it up? The OP said that he wants to buy Abba FLAC files, and Wombat suggested that he should buy a cd and rip it himself. |
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Post by Liebezeit on Jun 1, 2017 18:51:55 GMT
I still think it's pointless that you should buy digital and burn onto personal CD-R or copy it to another media, to play on a HiFi system - however on the other side I find ripping to be more practical since you retain mostly the original commercial CD medium (and using it for a HiFi system because that's the whole point of it, unless if it's an iPod...) and the ripped file's CD-like audio quality, if chosen with FLAC, OGG, or WAV (so as to listen to it on iTunes, but I'm aware it would not show the ripped album as already purchased. But if anybody wants to take the opposite route, I couldn't care.) But no one was talking about burning, why did you bring it up? The OP said that he wants to buy Abba FLAC files, and Wombat suggested that he should buy a cd and rip it himself. When it comes to my mind about 'copying' to the hifi system, I thought of 'burning' a blank CD to receive playback on the hifi system, but I'm rather certain that is definitely not the same thing, since others have different concepts of how an M4A file can be copied to a hifi player. It was due to my misunderstanding/misreading of OP's questions about being able to copy to the hifi player. Tis a mistake I committed! 😮 |
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Post by Fafner on Jun 1, 2017 18:56:56 GMT
But no one was talking about burning, why did you bring it up? The OP said that he wants to buy Abba FLAC files, and Wombat suggested that he should buy a cd and rip it himself. When it comes to my mind about 'copying' to the hifi system, I thought of 'burning' a blank CD to receive playback on the hifi system, but I'm rather certain that is definitely not the same thing, since others have different concepts of how an M4A file can be copied to a hifi player. It was due to my misunderstanding of OP's questions about being able to copy to the hifi player. Tis a mistake I committed! 😮 Burning something onto a cd doesn't automatically increase the quality of your playback, it all depends on the DAC which decodes the digital signal into analogue that goes into your system. You can plug in your hifi system directly into your computer and get a very high quality sound if you have a very fancy soundcard, which will beat a cheap cd player - and vice versa, it all depends on your particular setup. |
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Post by Fafner on Jun 1, 2017 19:00:21 GMT
And of course if someone has a large library of digital files, it will not make much sense to burn cd's, but it's better to spend on a good soundcard and plug your audio system directly into your computer (or use a streamer).
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Post by wombat on Jun 1, 2017 19:59:29 GMT
I've taken a few CDs and ripped the files to flac, just out of curiousity. Worked fine and did sound better in some cases than a hi rez mp3. It really depended on the song itself.
I thought about ripping my entire CD collection to flac and uploading it to Google drive for backup... but that would take forever and usually the only place I listen to music that wasnt produced by me, is in my car, on shuffle.
And for those tracks, I know this is herecy, but I take them into my DAW and add some overall light compression-brickwalling a touch, just because it sounds better to me with all the road noise and stuff. This doesnt touch the original files, just clones I make for the car.
Anyway, back to the OP, it seems to me, the far easiest way to get flac files from Abba, is to buy the CDs and rip your own. Its easy and all you need is a computer with a CD drive.
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Post by wombat on Jun 1, 2017 20:37:53 GMT
Oh and Fafner's right, you dont gain anything by burning audio files to a CD. It doesnt upscale the resolution or anything like that. If you burn a bunch of compressed mp3s to a CD, thats what its going to sound like when you play it back. A bunch of compressed mp3s.
Hey Fafner, your avatar, nice pic of your wife with the sunglasses. Diggin it.
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Post by Fafner on Jun 1, 2017 20:41:14 GMT
Hey Fafner, your avatar, nice pic of your wife with the sunglasses. Diggin it. Yeah, isn't she lovely?  |
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Post by Liebezeit on Jun 2, 2017 0:51:14 GMT
Oh and Fafner's right, you dont gain anything by burning audio files to a CD. It doesnt upscale the resolution or anything like that. If you burn a bunch of compressed mp3s to a CD, thats what its going to sound like when you play it back. A bunch of compressed mp3s. Burning something onto a cd doesn't automatically increase the quality of your playback, it all depends on the DAC which decodes the digital signal into analogue that goes into your system. You can plug in your hifi system directly into your computer and get a very high quality sound if you have a very fancy soundcard, which will beat a cheap cd player - and vice versa, it all depends on your particular setup. Thanks for pointing out, guys, But I'm afraid I NEVER mentioned anywhere how homemade burning CDs improve quality. I merely said that "When it comes to my mind about 'copying' to the hifi system, I thought of 'burning' a blank CD to receive playback on the hifi system". I meant that when I thought about copying to the hi-fi system, the first thing that comes to my mind is the exact same second portion of the sentence I wrote... where "receive playback" does not mean "I'm increasing the quality". The only remark about quality I wrote was (paraphrasing it so I don't have to annoy you): with a purchased manufactured CD and a ripping device, the ripped file will sound as good as the CD audio if WAV (or a lossless file) was chosen as the output to the computer.
Yes, I know I can't always be dependent on the CD itself; some CDs will have mastering error or flaws, but the fact that some record labels own and use HQ digital files transferred from analogue or digital to mass burn CDs, makes me favour strongly toward the manufactured medias because of that. I've taken a few CDs and ripped the files to flac, just out of curiousity. Worked fine and did sound better in some cases than a hi rez mp3. It really depended on the song itself. ...the far easiest way to get flac files from Abba, is to buy the CDs and rip your own. Its easy and all you need is a computer with a CD drive. That's exactly what I was trying to convey. It's better that way than the other way around in my opinion... t's better to spend on a good soundcard and plug your audio system directly into your computer (or use a streamer). Good idea. I'll keep that in mind for a while.  |
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Post by Fafner on Jun 2, 2017 9:48:04 GMT
Yes, I know I can't always be dependent on the CD itself; some CDs will have mastering error or flaws, but the fact that some record labels own and use HQ digital files transferred from analogue or digital to mass burn CDs, makes me favour strongly toward the manufactured medias because of that. Unless you buy a lossless file (FLAC, ALAC etc.), in which case it doesn't matter at all if you play it from a cd or from your computer hard drive... (and in case of HQ files, regular cd's don't support high resolution audio). |
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