Here are more details about the ABBA 'Virtual Reality Tour'. So, the 'Tour' may well be a true one, rather than the 'Holograms' performing at the same venue. If you think about it - they could make several 'Virtual Reality' ABBA's, & they could 'Tour' several Countries at the same time! In fact, if they made 6 'Virtual ABBA' they could be 'Touring' the 6 main Continents at once - Europe, Asia, Africa, North America, South America & Australia. I guess, they need not bother with Antarctica, as there are only a few thousand Scientists etc. there - about 4,000 in Summer & 1,000 in Winter.
From: 'The Irish Times' -- Saturday 16th September 2017:
ABBA-tars: Super Troupers return, and somewhere in the crowd there’s you
Björn, Agnetha, Benny and Anni-Frid are back – as you haven’t seen them since 1977
by Brian Boyd
Since splitting up in 1982, ABBA – one of the most successful and loved music groups of all time – has had almost daily offers to reform. Some 15 years ago the four members of the band sat in a room together and seriously discussed reforming for a series of live shows after they received a $1 billion offer. “We were going to do the shows and build a hospital with the money,” Björn Ulvaeus told this reporter. But that offer – like thousands of others – ultimately came to nothing. Hence the surprise this week when ABBA officially confirmed they were getting back together to tour in 2019. But only in virtual reality. All four members of the best-selling band: Björn, Agnetha, Benny and Anni-Frid are being digitised using techniques that capture them as they were in their spandex prime. Using audio from previous live ABBA concerts, a digital ABBA will be shining like the sun, smiling, having fun on stages once again. The band are all now in their late 60s or early 70s and have little appetite to schlep around the live circuit in person. But this virtual reality tour is no cheap gimmick. The giant Universal record label and Simon Fuller (the impresario behind the Spice Girls and The X Factor) are looking to re-imagine the live entertainment economy with this virtual ABBA tour.
As Fuller said this week: “The creativity and ideas flowing from the members of ABBA over the past few months have filled me with great excitement. We are exploring a new technological world, with virtual reality and artificial intelligence at the forefront, that will allow us to create new forms of entertainment and content we couldn’t have previously imagined.”
It’s now all too common, when a major-league live act announces a visit, the expensively priced tickets sell out in minutes, leaving many fans disappointed. The live tour economy is buoyant, and demand far outstrips supply. Given that a major act can only get to certain places at certain times, the entertainment industry has been investing heavily for some time in the concept of the virtual reality substitute tour. If the original ABBA fans find the idea of going to see digital avatars of a group preposterous, the next generation of gig-going age has grown up with hyper-realistic video games and see the world differently. The music industry has already tried out the idea. In 2012 the rapper Tupac Shakur (who died in 1996) appeared as a hologram at that year’s Coachella music festival. In 2014 a moonwalking Michael Jackson hologram appeared at the Billboard music awards, five years after his death. The Universal Music Group, Simon Fuller and ABBA are not going to get involved in a poorly thought out and cheaply executed technological publicity stunt.
"ABBA has a far bigger commercial reach, and could be a more effective test case for this new “live music” concept"
A lot of attention will be focused on a world tour by the heavy metal singer Ronnie James Dio which kicks off this November. Dio died in 2010 but the Dio Returns tour features a hologram of the singer being backed by the musicians who used to play with him. Dio’s live vocals each night will be taken from previous performances in his career. Dio Returns will play in venues across Europe, South America, Australia, Asia and the US. Live music promoters are not known for being generous with their money, so the fact that so many venues have already booked the Dio Returns show suggests there is a market for hologram/virtual reality tours.
New live entertainment format
ABBA, however, are a different proposition. They have a far bigger commercial reach, and could be a more effective test case for this new “live music” concept. Such is the still massive appetite for ABBA’s pop music that the stage musical Mamma Mia (based on their songs) has grossed more than $2 billion worldwide since opening in 1999. The 2008 film adaptation of Mamma Mia became the highest-grossing musical film of all time. The band’s greatest hits collection, Gold – originally released in 1992 – is still selling healthily. ABBA guard their legacy jealously (they wouldn’t let their name be used in the Mamma Mia musical), and they hardly need the money that a virtual tour might make them. A motivating force, however, may be to pioneer a new live entertainment format in which they’re (albeit digitally) front and centre. The details of the technology being used to bring ABBA to digital life are a closely guarded secret. It’s unclear, too, what type of venues virtual ABBA will play in or how the overall product will be controlled and distributed. What is known is that, following ABBA’s announcement, industry talk has already begun about virtual reality “de-ageing” tours, including the possibility of Fleetwood Mac performing their Rumours album looking and sounding as they did when it was released in 1977. ABBA aren’t the only ones who don’t stop thinking about tomorrow.
Elsewhere, (UK Chart Site), even Non-ABBA Fans are wondering how it can keep on selling in the UK.
We will see how 'Mamma Mia! 2' affects it in 2018.
'Mamma Mia! 1' caused it to return to No.1, (2 Weeks), in 2008. It sold 419,000 in the UK that Year. It was the UK's Best Selling Album of 2008. That was its 3rd Year End Entry in the UK Top 20. It had been 12th in 1992 & 4th in 1999.
Ironically, it would have got no higher than No.2 in 2008, had the 'Mamma Mia!' Film Soundtrack been allowed into the Artist Chart! Instead, that was only allowed to Chart in the Compilation Chart, & it was No.1 in that Chart for 11 Weeks. (In the Artist Chart, the Film caused the Studio Cast Album to get to No.15, as Cast Albums are not banned from that Chart. '18 Hits' got to No.15, due to the Film. But, Universal did not attempt to re-promote 'More Gold' & that only reached No.63 that Year).
Gary - 'Waterloo' sold well over 300,000 in 1974 & it should have had a Silver Disk. For some reason, Epic Records did not apply for one for it. (In 1974 a Silver Disk Single had to sell 250,000. It has been lowered to 200,000, for many Years now).
As 'Singles' are now available 24/7, 365 Days a Year, many old Tracks are getting UK Awards, even if they barely touched the UK Top 100. UK Download Sales are counted from September 2004 to the present day. 'Ain't No Mountain High Enough' by Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell was a No.19 USA Hit in 1967. It failed to Chart in the UK. However, in April 2013 it reached No.80, due to it being in a UK TV Advert. It only spent 1 Week in the Top 100 - but it had sold over 400,000 on Downloads by August of this Year - and it was given a UK Gold Disk! So, Tracks no longer even need to reach very high in the UK Charts to go Silver, (200,000), or Gold, (400,000).
Ed Sheeran only began having UK Hits in June 2011, but in just over 6 Years he has sold more UK Singles than ABBA, (almost 12 Million), & Queen, (almost 13 Million), have sold since they both first Charted in 1974 - 43 Years ago. ABBA have 10 UK Gold Singles. Ed has a massive 20 Gold 'Singles'. With 13 of them going Platinum - 600,000 Sales, & 6 of those going Multi Platinum. He & The Beatles are the only Acts with 6 UK Million Sellers. 2 of Ed's have sold over 2 Million in the UK. No Beatles Singles reached 2 Million UK Sales. So, the 'Age Of The Download' makes it far easier for big Acts to get Silver, Gold & Platinum Awards in the UK. ABBA have Zero UK Platinum Awards, as you had to have a Million Selling Single to do that, in ABBA's time. Although 'Dancing Queen' has sold over a Million, it did not do it when ABBA were together. It took Downloads to get it over a Million UK Sales. It should have a Silver Disk for UK Download Sales since September 2004, but The BPI have yet to give it one. It has sold over 210,000 UK Downloads in that time & Silver is 200,000.
We long gave up hope for a full Abba reunion concert, but plans for a virtual reality tour featuring all four members are still in the works, Sweden's music legend Benny Andersson has confirmed.
The Swedish quartet did perform on stage together last summer at a party to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the first meeting of Andersson and his songwriting partner Björn Ulvaeus. But it was a private party so any Abba fan knows it does not count, no matter what the headlines say.
But a virtual reality reunion tour (plans for which have been reported in the past) is still in the pipeline, Andersson told Expressen in an interview ahead of the release of his new album 'Piano'.
“We see each other every now and then, we've done a few different things, and now we've got a project ahead of us,” said the Swede.
The idea, as it currently stands, is that Abba's songs will be performed by a live band and digital avatars of Andersson, Ulveaus, Anni-Frid Lyngstad and Agnetha Fältskog will also be on stage.
Not a reunion in the flesh, but apparently as good as it gets.
The tour is planned to kick off in 2019, if it is good enough, according to Andersson.
“It will take a bit of time, it takes time to digitalize a face,” he told Expressen.
“It's fun that it's so technologically advanced. It will be interesting.”
The Sales of 'ABBA Gold' have slightly risen in the UK today, (Amazon & Itunes), due to the 'Mamma Mia!' Film being shown on ITV1 & ITV1+, earlier this Evening. It has not been shown on UK TV for a few Months.
Gary & Graham, (ForeverFan), The OCC took over the compiling of the UK Charts on W/E 12th February 1994. They are aware that the UK Album Chart was a Top 100 between W/E 12th September 1992 & W/E 5th February 1994, but they only have Top 75's for that period.
I have all of the 'missing' Top 100's. I offered to send them to my OCC Contacts, about 3 Years ago. However, they never got back to me & I can only assume that they have Zero interest in having those Top 100's on their Site. They seem happy to stick with Top 75 Album Charts for that period. (In the past, they have told me that only the Top 75 Charts count, as the Top 75 is all that 'Music Week' is willing to publish in its Magazine. So, that is why only the Top 75 Singles & Albums are used for most UK Chart Statistics - even though The OCC compile Weekly Top 100's for the UK Charts).
Over the Years, (15!), that I've had OCC 'Contacts', I've noticed that they often just ignore me, if I point out mistakes on their Site. It took me about 4 Years, to get them to give ABBA's '18 Hits' its correct UK Peak Position - No.15. They had it as a No.17 UK Hit.
The Beatles are the most successful Group on the UK Singles & Albums Charts. But, The OCC even has a few errors, on their Site about them. They say that their 17 UK No.1 Singles, were at No.1 for Total of 65 Weeks. That is wrong. It was 69 Weeks. They only give 'Get Back', (1969), 2 Weeks at No.1 & it should be 6 No.1 Weeks - so that is why they have 'lost' 4 of The Beatles 69 UK No.1 Singles Weeks. In another part of their Site, they get it right & 'Get Back' gets 6 No.1 Weeks. I've told them - more than once - about their mistake, but they just ignore me. They also regard the 1987 re-issue of 'Sgt Pepper' as a different Album than the 1967 release. So, they keep its 1987 Chart Run apart from the rest of that Album's UK Chart Weeks. This is wrong. The 1987 Album was the same as the 1967 Album. It was just that it was on CD & not Vinyl. But as long as it is the same Album, its 1987 Chart Run should be added to the rest of its 1967 to 2017 Chart Run. (It reached No.3 in 1987, spending 12 Weeks in the Top 75 & 16 Weeks in the Top 100).
I no longer contact The OCC as much, as I find it very frustrating, to be ignored, when I point out errors on their Site...
@@@ = The OCC say 524 Top 75 Weeks, for the Queen Compilation. They give it 7 Weeks too many. They include the 7 Top 75 Weeks of a Double CD, (Greatest Hits I & II), from 1994. That was a No.37 Hit, but its 7 Top 75 Weeks should not be included in the Chart Run of the 1981 Greatest Hits Album. So, we remove 7 Weeks from The OCC Total = 517 Weeks. Then we add in a No.73 Week, for W/E 9th October 1982 = 518 Weeks. For some reason, The OCC miss out that 1982 No.73 Position.
The 7 Top 75 Positions - 1994 Double CD - that The OCC wrongly include with Queen's Greatest Hits (One), are:
W/E 19th November 1994 – 37-40-50-43-40-39-44
3)... FURTHER TOP 100 WEEKS -- THAT THE OCC DO NOT HAVE
The UK Album Chart has been a Top 100 for many Years. This includes 12th September 1992 to February 5th 1994. However, The OCC only have Top 75's for that, (1992 to 1994), period.
A)... The OCC give Greatest Hits (One) by Queen, 788 Top 100 Weeks. That is wrong. You have to remove the 7 Top 100 Weeks of the 1994 Double CD. That gives 781 Weeks. Then you add in the No.73 Top 100 Week that they miss out, from October 1982. That gives 782 Weeks. So, that is its real Top 100 Weeks, from the Charts that The OCC have. The Queen Album loses 32 Top 100 Weeks from September 1992 to W/E 5th February 1994, as The OCC only has Top 75's. So, that's 782 Weeks + 32 = 814 Top 100 Weeks. So, the Queen Album was really the 1st UK Album to reach 800 Top 100 Weeks, 14 Weeks ago. But, The OCC don't have 32 of its Top 100 Positions.....
B)... They, (OCC), give 'Legend' 787 Top 100 Weeks. However, they miss out 19 of its Top 100 Positions, from 1993, when they only have Top 75's. Plus 2 further Top 100 Positions from January 1994. That's 21 Top 100 Positions, that 'Legend' loses. It should really have 808 Top 100 Weeks, which means that it too reached 800 UK Top 100 Weeks before 'ABBA Gold'.
C)... ABBA Gold is really on 802 Top 100 Weeks. The OCC only have Top 75's for 2 Weeks when it was at No.77 - W/E 22nd May 1993 and W/E 5th February 1994.
I too have heard a rumour, that 'Angeleyes' will be in 'Mamma Mia! 2'. Of course it would be used in a scene by a river, I guess. Possibly the main river in Oxford, in the UK. Which is the River Cherwell. After all, the 'When I Kissed The Teacher' scene seems to have been filmed at Oxford University.
However, it is just a rumour, as to whether 'Angeleyes' is in the Film.
If it is in the Film, it means that the 2 Songs, (so far), that were not in Film 1, are from 'More ABBA Gold'. Which would cause me to wonder if all of the 'new' Songs in Film 2 are from 'More ABBA Gold', and that there will be no chance for 'Move On', 'Hole In Your Soul', 'Tiger', 'As Good As New' etc. to be in the Film - which is a pity.
So, I am wondering if Universal plan to use the Film to re-promote 'More ABBA Gold'. In 2008, they did not re-promote 'More ABBA Gold', when the 1st Film was a success. Which is why 'ABBA Gold' returned to No.1 in the UK & 'More ABBA Gold' only reached No.63, (for 2 Weeks), at that time. (After reaching No.14 in 1993 & No.13 in 1999).
Of course, Film 2 can also be used to re-promote 'ABBA Gold', as there are several Songs from Film 1 in it - 'Dancing Queen' & 'Mamma Mia', to name but two.
As you can see, by the Comments beneath the Article, some people don't see any point in having a sequel. Others seem to think that the Film will only be about the younger days of the main cast of the 1st Film. In fact, it is about their younger days & also how they are faring as older characters - in the present day. Which is why Meryl Streep & Pierce Brosnan etc. are again cast in the 2nd Film. As well as Actors playing them as young people.....
So far I know of 2 'new' ABBA Songs that are definitely in the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Film. (By 'new', I mean Songs that were not in the 1st Film).
1)... BJORN -- The 2nd Film will deal with both the present and the past. As some of us guessed, the past allows, 'When I Kissed The Teacher', to be used in a School Days scene. Apparently, this scene is at the start of the Film. Bjorn is to play a Teacher - but, he is very likely too old, to actually play the Teacher, who the Song is being sung to.....
2)... PIERCE BROSNAN -- He is to sing 'Knowing Me, Knowing You' in the Film. No doubt he will 'murder' it, as he did with 'S.O.S.' & 'When All Is Said And Done' in the 1st Film. Why Benny & Bjorn did not choose Actors who could actually sing is one of life's big mysteries.....
We'll soon know which ABBA Songs have been chosen for the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Film.
Apparently the Filming of it is due to finish as early as October. No doubt, we will then start to get an idea as to at least some of the Songs in it.
Elsewhere, I've seen some ABBA Fans complaining that some of the Songs from the 1st Film will be in it. But, that has to happen, as the Film will be both about the present & the past. That means that we will see how the Female Group first had success. Which means that some of their early Hits will have to be shown. Which is why we will see 'Dancing Queen' again - as well as others from the 1st Film. (Not too many, I hope, as Film 2 should mainly be used to reveal 'new' ABBA Songs to a wider audience - to promote ABBA).
'Mamma Mia' will also have to be in Film 2, as the Film is named after it. It would be really silly if Film 2 did not have that ABBA Song in it.....
So far, just about every major Actor in the first 'Mamma Mia!' Film has been signed up for the 2nd.
It is now clear that the 2nd Film will both be a Prequel & a Sequel. They will focus on how the 1st Film Actors are faring 10 Years later. Just as there will be a lot of 'Flashbacks' to show events that happened long before the 1st Film. Which means that in the Flashbacks, Donna//Meryl Streep etc. will be played by much younger Actors.
The young Donna//Meryl will be played by Lily James, who was in the Films 'Cinderella' & 'Baby Driver' & also in the TV Series 'Downton Abbey'.
I don't know how many 'new' ABBA Songs will be used in the 2nd Film, but Benny & Bjorn feel that some of the Songs from the 2008 Film should be used again. So we are sure to get 'Mamma Mia', as that is named in the Title of Film 2. No doubt we will also get 'Dancing Queen' again, as it is regarded as such a 'Classic'.
As long as Benny & Bjorn realise, that the more Songs from Film 1, that they re-use, the less room there is for ABBA Songs that were not used before. It also means that the Soundtrack Album will have some Tracks on it that over 5 Million people have already bought on the 2008 Soundtrack. They really will have to be careful not to put people off wanting to buy the Soundtrack to Film 2. It is not as if ABBA dont have far more good Songs to use, that were left out of Film 1. (5 Million Sales is what One Direction Albums sold at their most popular - and they were called 'The New Beatles'. So, it is impressive that the 'Mamma Mia!' Soundtrack sold over 5 Million).
To make room for fresh ABBA Songs, I'm hoping that only 2 or 3 Songs from Film 1 are in Film 2. Benny & Bjorn really do have far more decent ABBA Songs, than they seem to think. When the 1st Film came out, many people heard 'Our Last Summer' & 'Slipping Through My Fingers' for the 1st time - and they liked them. The trouble is that only ABBA's biggest Hit Singles are well known, so a great many people do not know how good a lot of their Album Tracks were. The 1st Film gave non-ABBA Fans the chance to hear a few Album Tracks & I'm hoping that some of those ABBA Songs will also be in Film 2 - rather than everything being based on old ABBA Singles.....
Last Edit: Jul 15, 2017 19:35:24 GMT by Zeebee: Corrected a typo; didn't add or delete anything
Apparently, only Frida & Bjorn are keen on the idea.
However, the organizers of the 'Exhibition' say that all 4 ABBA Members are enthusiastic about it.
'The Sun On Sunday' also thinks, (like many others), that ABBA plan to reform in 2018. They have misunderstood the idea about the ABBA 'Hologram'//'Technological Innovation', (whatever it is), & think that it means we will see the 4 Human Beings, from ABBA, on Tour again. ABBA said no such thing & this is what happens when the Media get silly ideas into their 'heads'.....
In the meantime, Michael Hann, of 'The Guardian', has done an Article about the ABBA 'Exhibition'. He says that it is be about how ABBA cheered Britain up in the 1970's, when everything seemed so dull & gloomy.
Such a claim just sets ABBA up for criticism - by the many people who dislike them. As can be seen in several of the 471 Readers Comments, beneath the Article.
ABBA in the latest UK Album Chart -- W/E 13th July 2017
Due to the release of the Double Gold Vinyl Album, 'ABBA Gold' has re-entered the UK Top 75 at No.57.
It sold around 1,850 copies to do so.
It is its 526th Top 75 Week & 792nd Top 100 Week.
Its 792 Top 100 Weeks are the most by any Album.
Its 526 Top 75 Weeks are 2nd only to 'Legend' by Bob Marley & The Wailers. That 1984 Album has 536 Top 75 Weeks, & it is at No.31 in the latest UK Album Chart. (It has 780 Top 100 Weeks. The OCC say 779 Top 100 Weeks).
'Greatest Hits' by Queen has the 3rd most UK Top 75 Weeks - 516, although it should really be 517, as The OCC misses a Week in 1982. It has 780 Top 100 Weeks - according to The OCC. Which is the same as 'Legend'. It really has 781 Top 100 Weeks, due to the Week that the OCC miss out, in 1982.
Today, this ABBA News has been put on The Official UK Chart Company's Site. (The OCC Site). Jack White is relatively 'new' there. With this 'Exhibition', the ABBA 'Hologram'(?) Show, due in 2018, and July 2018's 'Mamma Mia - Here I Go Again' Film, it is obvious that several Countries are going to have yet another big 'ABBA Revival' during the next 18 Months - and beyond. With the UK - as always - being one of the most enthusiastic. 'ABBA Gold' has not been in the UK Top 100 for 2 Weeks, but in today's Mid Week Chart, it is back in at No.44 - due mainly to UK Sales of the Gold coloured double Vinyl Album. That is for UK Sales from Friday to Sunday - inclusive.....('ABBA Gold' had a Global & European iTunes 'Revival' in June. It reached No.11 in the World's iTunes Albums and No.7 in Europe's iTunes Albums).
An ABBA exhibition called Super Troupers is coming to London later this year
"We are so excited that the exhibition is just a few short steps away from Waterloo.”
By Jack White
Get your platform boots at the ready! A new ABBA exhibition is coming to London later this year.
Taking place at the Southbank Centre from December 14, 2017 to April 29, 2018, Super Troupers will walk fans through various eras of ABBA's career, recreating iconic places in the Swedish band's very famous history.
Each exhibit space will feature actual artefacts and momentos used by ABBA's Benny, Bjorn, Agnetha and Frida, many of which are borrowed from the ABBA museum in Stockholm. The night that they won the Eurovision Song Contest in 1974 will be recreated, as will their Brighton Grand hotel suite that they stayed in.
A 70s disco and ABBA's recording studio will act as other areas in the exhibition to tell the band's story, while unseen sketches, iconic costumes and instruments will bring fans closer to ABBA than ever before.
MORE: Look back at ABBA's complete chart history in the UK, including 26 Top 40 singles
Gary - I've discussed why Elvis has 21 UK No.1's with various 'Chart Experts'.
He's had 18 Songs reaching No.1 in the UK, but 21 No.1 Hits.
It is because his 19th, 20th & 21st No.1's, in 2005, had a Bonus Track added to the 'B' Side. They each had the same 'B' Side, that they had, when they first reached No.1, but a 2nd 'B' Side was added to each. They also had new Catalogue Numbers. Due to this, it was decided that they were 'new' Elvis No.1's & not just 3 of his old No.1's returning there.
It is all very controversial, as he'd have 18 No.1's, if the 3 in 2005 were not counted twice. It annoys Beatles Fans, as they have 17 UK No.1 Singles, but they would have 18, if the 'Record Retailer' Chart had not been chosen, (by Guinness Books), for the UK Charts of the 1960's. 'Record Retailer' had 'Please Please Me', (1963), as a No.2 Hit, but it was No.1 in the other UK Charts of that time - 'New Musical Express', 'Melody Maker' and 'Disc'. So, Beatles Fans feel that The Beatles were 'cheated' out of a No.1 Hit. Elvis & The Beatles would have 18 UK No.1 Singles each, if he had not been given 3 No.1's in 2005 & if The Beatles 'Please Please Me' had not been counted as a No.2 Hit.
All 18 of Elvis's pre-2005 UK No.1 Hits were re-issued in 2005, & all 18 reached the Top 5. With 3 reaching No.1, as I've said.
Alexbury1 - There is a Myth that 'One Of Us' was No.1 for 1 Week, in the unpublished 'Official', (BMRB), Chart of W/E 2nd January 1982. BMRB always missed a Chart at the end - or start - of each Year. Although they gathered Sales Data for the missing Charts, they did not publish them. Instead they repeated the published Chart of the previous Week.
So, they repeated the W/E 26th December 1981 Chart on W/E 2nd January 1982. This meant that 'One Of Us' got a repeated Week at No.3 - giving it a 3rd & final Week at that Position.
So a Myth has grown, that the ABBA Hit was really No.1 in the unpublished W/E 2nd January Chart. It wasn't. It rose from No.3 to No.2 in that Chart. It managed to outsell 'Daddy's Home' by Cliff Richard, for that one Week. I've been told that 'One Of Us' sold 96,000 in the missing Week & Cliff's Hit sold 92,000. However, in the repeated W/E 2nd January 1982 Chart, Cliff got a 4th & final Week at No.2 & ABBA had their 3rd & last No.3 Week.
However, at no time did either ABBA or Cliff reach No.1, during that Christmas & New Year. The Human League's 'Don't You Want Me' held them at No.2 & No.3, and spent 5 Weeks at No.1. It also sold a UK Million.
Incidently, the BMRB forgot to add ABBA's Sales to 'One Of Us' for the missing Week. As a result, they have it on 96,000 UK Sales lower than it should have. They also have only 170,000 Sales for 'S.O.S' & it should be at least 240,000. They have just 310,000 Sales for 'Money, Money, Money' - because they were only given its 1976 Sales & it sold well over 150,000 more in 1977. (The OCC 'only' give 'One Of Us' 405,000 1981/1982 Sales & it is really at least 501,000. Then you have to add in over 35,000 UK Download Sales for it - since November 2004. The OCC only took over the UK Charts in February 1994, but they 'inherited' the - too low - BRMB UK Totals of 'S.O.S.', 'Money, Money, Money' & 'One Of Us').
Gary - The OCC don't regard the 'Exile On Main Street', that went to No.1 in 2010, as being the return of the 1972 Album to No.1. They used to regard it as the same Album, but they changed their minds a few Years ago. They did that because the 2010 Edition had a 2nd Disk added - with 10 'New' Songs & they decided that it should be regarded as a different No.1 Album than the 1972 Edition. So, that is why The OCC give the Rolling Stones 12 UK No.1 Albums & not 11.
However, I worked this out - today - to amuse myself. (Pretending that the 1972 Edition returned to No.1 in 2010). I added it to a few UK Chart Sites - hence why I repeat what I've already said, in the ABBA Chat part of this Post, in the final paragraph.
WHICH 2 UK ALBUMS HAVE THE BIGGEST 'GAP' & THE BIGGEST 'SPAN' BETWEEN RETURNING TO No.1?
Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band
ITS 'GAP' BETWEEN LAST BEING AT No.1 & RETURNING TO No.1
W/E 3rd February 1968 to W/E 8th June 2017 = 49 Years & 4 Months
ITS 'SPAN' BETWEEN FIRST BEING AT No.1 & RETURNING TO No.1
W/E 10th June 1967 to W/E 8th June 2017 = 50 Years
It was last at No.1 in 1968. It was its 27th No.1 Week. If The OCC regard its current No.1 Position as being by the same Album, then it has its 28th Week at No.1 today. As well as being the longest 'Gap' between an Album last being at No.1 & it returning to No.1.
It also has the longest 'Span' of an Album first reaching No.1 & next reaching No.1. In both cases 'Exile On Main Street' by the Rolling Stones has the 2nd longest 'Gap' & the 2nd longest 'Span'.
B)... Rolling Stones
This Rolling Stones Album only spent 1 Week at No.1 in both 1972 and 2010. Therefore its No.1 'Gap' & 'Span' cover the same amount of time.....
Exile On Main Street
W/E 10th June 1972 to W/E 29th May 2010 = 37 Years & 11 Months
However - The OCC regard it as not being their 1972 Album returning to No.1. The 2010 No.1 had a 2nd Disk, of 10 'New' Songs, added, so The OCC decided that it was a brand new No.1 Album for the Group. Which is why The OCC counted the 'Blue & Lonesome' No.1, (December 2016), as the Rolling Stones 12th UK No.1 Album & not their 11th.
I've updated the following 2 'All Time' UK Chart Lists. ABBA are in both of them.
Today 'Sergeant Pepper' returned to No.1, in the UK Album Chart. It is The Beatles 175th No.1 Week in that Chart. However, it is not their 16th No.1 Album. They are still on 15. It is seen as their 1967 Album returning to No.1.
I know that it is awful that Westlife have had more UK No.1's than ABBA. However, ABBA spent far longer at No.1. Westlife's 14 No.1 Singles only spent 20 Weeks at No.1. That's the same as Slade achieved with just 6 No.1's. Westlife had 7 UK No.1 Albums, but they each only spent 1 Week at No.1. The 1st 7 UK No.1's by ABBA, were there for 48 Weeks & by the time they'd had 9, they had spent 57 Weeks at No.1......
THE ARTISTS WITH THE MOST No.1 WEEKS IN THE UK CHARTS
(S) = Singles + (A) = Albums
01)... THE BEATLES -- (S) 69 + (A) 175 = 244 Weeks
02)... ELVIS PRESLEY -- (S) 80 + (A) 66 = 146 Weeks
03)... ABBA -- (S) 31 + (A) 57 = 88 Weeks
04)... CLIFF RICHARD -- (S) 46 + (A) 30 = 76 Weeks
05)... ROLLING STONES -- (S) 18 + (A) 46 = 64 Weeks
06)... MADONNA -- (S) 29 + (A) 30 = 59 Weeks
07)... TAKE THAT -- (S) 29 + (A) 29 = 58 Weeks
08)... ELTON JOHN -- (S) 29 + (A) 23 = 52 Weeks
09)... MICHAEL JACKSON -- (S) 16 + (A) 31 = 47 Weeks
10)= ROD STEWART -- (S) 18 + (A) 28 = 46 Weeks 10)= ROBBIE WILLIAMS -- (S) 11 + (A) 35 = 46 Weeks
THE ARTISTS WITH THE MOST No.1 SINGLES & ALBUMS IN THE UK CHARTS
(S) = Singles + (A) = Albums
01)... ELVIS PRESLEY -- (S) 21 + (A) 13 = 34 No.1's
02)... THE BEATLES -- (S) 17 + (A) 15 = 32 No.1's @@@
03)... MADONNA -- (S) 13 + (A) 12 = 25 No.1's
04)= CLIFF RICHARD -- (S) 14 + (A) 7 = 21 No.1's 04)= WESTLIFE -- (S) 14 + (A) 7 = 21 No.1's
06)... ROLLING STONES -- (S) 8 + (A) 12 = 20 No.1's
07)= TAKE THAT -- (S) 12 + (A) 7 = 19 No.1's 07)= ROBBIE WILLIAMS -- (S) 7 + (A) 12 = 19 No.1's
09... ABBA -- (S) 9 + (A) 9 = 18 No.1's
10)= MICHAEL JACKSON -- (S) 7 + (A) 10 = 17 No.1's 10)= U2 -- (S) 7 + (A) 10 = 17 No.1's
@@@ = If The OCC count the current Beatles No.1 Album, as their 16th UK No.1 Album, then they have 33 UK No.1 Singles + Albums. They will still have one less than Elvis Presley, however.
(NOTE - They are still on 32 UK No.1's. The OCC have not counted the 2017 'Sergeant Pepper' as their 16th No.1 Album. They are still on 15. The OCC say that the 1967 Album has returned to No.1).
From some of the Articles that I've read, it looks like the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Film will be both a Prequel & a Sequel.
By that I mean that we will be shown scenes from Years earlier than the 1st Film - using Actors who are supposed to be Meryl Streep etc., when they were much younger.
We will also be shown scenes from Years after the 1st Film - which means that Meryl and Pierce etc., will be made to look older. (Not that it will be hard to do that, as the 2nd Film is 10 Years after the 1st Film in 'Real Life', anyhow).
It is true that 'The Day Before You Came' may be too slow & gloomy to be included in the 2nd Film. Even if it were to included, I doubt if it will be as long as the ABBA original. It will likely be edited to about 3 Minutes, or something. (If it were to be included).
I just wish that ABBA Songs had been used in some sort of Animated Walt Disney type Fantasy Film. I think that the 'Mills And Boon' story-lines of the 2 'Mamma Mia!' Films are far too predictable & unimaginative, for Songs as 'bright' & inventive as many ABBA Tracks are. I find the Plot of Film 1 to be rather ordinary. No doubt, the Plot of Film 2 will be along the same lines - Mother, Daughter, Music Career, Lovers, etc., etc. To my way of thinking, Benny & Bjorn could not have looked too far, for an inventive Plot, to feature ABBA Songs in, if the best they settled on was the story-line of 'Mamma Mia!'.
One day, ABBA Songs will - hopefully - feature in a Fantasy Film, that really captures the wonder & imagination of the viewers. So far, I think that 'Muriel's Wedding' is by far the best Film that ever focused a lot on ABBA Songs. With 'Priscilla Queen Of The Desert' not far behind. It is a pity that far more people went to see the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Film - with the 2nd Film, almost certain to also be a huge Box Office success.....
I know that a lot of ABBA Fans are against the very idea of a 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Film, but you have to forget how 'awful' the idea might be. Instead, think of one thing - the 2nd Film will promote ABBA, all over again. Just as the 1st Film did in 2008.
In 2008, the 1st Film caused no less than 22 ABBA Songs to enter the UK Top 200 Singles Chart. The same Week saw about 12 ABBA Albums enter the UK Top 200 Albums Chart. Also, the 1st Film caused 'ABBA Gold' to return to No.1 in the UK Album Chart. It was No.1 for 2 Weeks. It was its 5th time at No.1 - from 3 different Years. No.1, (1 Week), in 1992, No.1 - 3 times, (for 5 Weeks), in 1999, & No.1 in 2008, (for 2 Weeks).
Of course, the 2008 Film also caused 'ABBA Gold' to do well again in a lot of other Countries - including going to No.1 - for 12 Weeks - in the USA Billboard Catalogue Chart. It also climbed to No.4 in Australia - even though it was already one of that Country's Top 10 Best Selling Albums.....
So, even if some ABBA Fans hate the very idea of the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Film - just see it as a great way to get ABBA noticed all over again - which it will do. To me, that, by far, the most important 'gain' from the 2nd Film.
Despite watching all of the clips of the 'Mamma Mia!' Movie ABBA Songs on YouTube, I've never actually seen the Film! The awful singing, (Pierce etc.), in several of the Clips was enough to put me off seeing the entire Film. (What a pity that Benny & Bjorn don't see any point in having Actors who can actually sing, in 'Mamma Mia!'. Meryl Streep is one of the few, in the Films, who can actually sing, reasonably well! Is it so hard to find Actors, who can do justice, to singing old ABBA Songs?!).
I know that there are many ABBA Fans, who not only hate the Film, but they think that a 2nd Film will be a disaster - because 'Grease 2', (1982), flopped, and 'Staying Alive', (1983), was no-where near as big as 'Saturday Night Fever'. But, just because a lot of 'Sequel' Films are awful and/or do not do very well at the 'Box Office', does not mean that it applies to all 'Sequels'. Many of them do very well.
Also, the 1st & 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Films have one huge asset in their favour - ABBA Songs!!!
We will see if the 2nd Film includes ABBA Songs, that ought to have had far more attention - such as 'The Day Before You Came' - which is now regarded as a 'Classic' - even by the Staff of several UK 'Rock' Magazines. Such as 'New Musical Express', which tended to ignore, or to make fun of ABBA, when they were together. 'N.M.E.' now regards them as one of the greatest 'Pop Groups' of all time.....
At present, the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Film is the 9th 'All Time' biggest 'Box Office' success, in UK Cinema History. It was also the biggest Musical Film in UK History, until it was over-taken by 'Beauty And The Beast', just a couple of Weeks ago. (In 2008, 'Mamma Mia!' actually became the 'Biggest All Time UK Box Office Movie', but it has fallen to 9th place, since then).
In November 2008 the DVD of 'Mamma Mia!' sold 1,669,084 copies in the UK - on its 1st Day of release! No other UK DVD has sold anything like that in one Day. By the end of its 1st Week it had sold over 3,100,000 copies, in the UK - another 'All Time' Record. To date, its UK Sales are over 5,500,000 - making it the biggest selling UK DVD of 'All Time'.
The Film Soundtrack recently went 5 x Platinum in the UK - for 1,500,000 Sales. (It has sold about 1,800,000 in the USA, & well over 5.5 Million Globally).
The 'Original Cast' Album has sold well over 400,000 in the UK.
I see 'Mamma Mia!' 2 as a way to promote ABBA, more than anything else. The 2008 Film certainly did that.
It is very odd that no ABBA Compilation, has ever been released, that has all of the ABBA Songs from the 1st Film on it.....
Gary - I'm sorry that I misunderstood the point, that you were making, about 'Greatest Hits' by Queen. Although both the Queen & ABBA Compilations have been in the Top 100 for several Weeks, this Year, you are right - the Queen Album is almost always higher in the UK Top 100 than 'ABBA Gold'.
In the latest UK Album Chart, (W/E 25th May 2017), 'ABBA Gold' has risen from No.73 to No.65. It sold about 1,450 copies, to do that. 'Greatest Hits' by Queen, has risen from No.64 to No.59. That sold about 1,580 copies, to do that. So, the Weekly Sales between both Albums are not very far apart - just 130 more Queen Sales - than ABBA - this Week.....