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Post by foreverfan on May 30, 2023 7:24:18 GMT
What do you think constitutes a heritage act ?
An act over 10 years together ?
As if that is the case, for example an act like Texas ( a favourite ) would be considered as one... is it just longevity or from a different era, or combination of both...
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Post by foreverfan on May 28, 2023 9:18:55 GMT
I was just thinking , and playing devils advocate....
" If one of us says NO" them that's all of us that say NO...no Agnetha........ emmmmmm
Now I'm only playing devils advocate, but Benny perhaps should be careful in what he says.... that said dammed if you do dammed if you don't...
But they have been in the " game " long enough now.......
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Post by foreverfan on May 27, 2023 11:06:27 GMT
Oh Johnny , controversial as ever... but hey each to their own..
Personally it's not that bad, you have to give it to her she has evolved from bubblegum pop to chewing gum pop...lol ......and has been around forever.....
Come on Kylie...!
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Post by foreverfan on May 26, 2023 15:12:52 GMT
^^^Johnny.. Ironically it could just be the length between TV and V... 40 years of hope was perhaps to long.. if those 40 years had been scattered say every 10, with odd track or album, who knows.... Ifs buts maybes... it's not that I don't like the album, in the right context all the tracks are ok, great I'm not to sure...time will tell, I think once this 50th anniversary has come and gone and we are more settled, and can live with what we have......
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Post by foreverfan on May 26, 2023 9:26:44 GMT
^^ I guess " we" could argue that the two unfinished tracks are not new music ..to them....
I'm only guessing, but there seems to be a lot of conflicting messages, has Bjorn jumped the gun again as in previous posts, is Benny just being Benny and of course nothing from the girls...
It could all be part of the " game" they play with the media, and "Us " of course who just love to speculate.
Personally, happy with Voyage album, but rarely play whole album now ? What does that say.... Over the moon and back regarding Voyage Show, it really does do everything it says , a real must for those fans like us and hope we all get to see it just once.. I believe Joesph is going soon ? As with all of us it will be interesting to hear his perspective.....
So would I be happy with that being it .... in one way we have to be, out of our control, but do I really think that they will let the 50th go past with nothing..no... what that will be will be rumours and speculation for the next year. as I said before would be truly happy for a final hurrah, in whatever form it takes, even a thankyou and goodbye...
If it doesn't happen so be it....
One of my favourite sayings come around again....
We wait and See....
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Post by foreverfan on May 25, 2023 9:52:51 GMT
Boooo Come on Benny pull something out the bag for a final time for the fans and we would all be happy to say goodbye ( well most of us ) and you can get back to BAO...
It's the perfect time to say a final goodbye and enjoy the rest of their lives......
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Post by foreverfan on May 25, 2023 7:49:41 GMT
^^^ surely not another Gold release, even Benny wouldn't be that cruel....... would he !!!!
I honestly can't see nothing happening, and yes I do think it will be the final hurrah, it would be a very fitting end..... and that would keep Benny happy knowing that that is it...
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Post by foreverfan on May 25, 2023 6:25:50 GMT
^^ I think we saw the same concert... with Lionel Ritchie ?
One of the best concerts I've seen, totally packed stadium and electric from start to finish.. great fun....
It gets to become sad when the great icons pass and we get older.....way of the world.....
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Post by foreverfan on May 25, 2023 6:21:23 GMT
Benny being Benny again.. I think he actually enjoys poo pooing anything to do with future ABBA, where Bjorn would sell his granny..lol...
Who knows what's going to really happen, it's a full year away, I tend to agree however that they won't do a song, it's to much to be live on such a huge stage, however I hope there will be a " hello or the likes " video , followed ideally by a new track.. but as mentioned before , there will be so many rumours and speculations, but just imagine if there was nothing ......what a huge disappointment that would be, so there has to be something.. God willing they are still here....
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Post by foreverfan on May 24, 2023 19:24:06 GMT
Oh no.....
One of my all time favourite artists.. saw her in concert, fantastic ..... Sad news indeed...
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Post by foreverfan on May 23, 2023 17:14:50 GMT
Sorry Gary ^^^ it's the RR album, But your correct about the single in the UK...
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Post by foreverfan on May 23, 2023 7:08:27 GMT
In the U.K. Mid week album charts Ring Ring quietly enters the top 100 at 72... alas unlikely to be in top 100 by Friday, but hey you never know....only needs about 1500 sales......
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Post by foreverfan on May 22, 2023 16:35:33 GMT
Well since Eurovision , I've heard Tattoo twice and I Wrote A Song once, ok I'm not on the radio 24/7 but... as for the others zero. I'm guessing Tattoo may still be top 10 in U.K. Singles chart come Friday, IWAS, somewhere between 20-30 and a remote possibility of Cha Cha Cha Cha being in the top 40, the rest out of top 75.
Very little staying power for these tracks, that said there's something not quite right about the charts of today, many including Harry Styles are over a year in the top 20. There seems to be very little any artist can do to break that hold. For instance it'll be interesting to see what Kylie can do with her latest, Padam Padam , very catchy, but she hasn't troubled that top 10 for years!
So within a few weeks all Eurovision will be over for another year...
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Post by foreverfan on May 22, 2023 15:53:35 GMT
Not sure if this has been mentioned before but a good friend of mine, did say the following, which potentially could be a possibility..
For instance TACOM., Is already to go with the costume already allocated for that part of the show, i.e. drop HIYS for TACOM So no need for costume change as already sync'd to do so,
So I'm guessing they know which tracks to replace when time comes....
Interesting news ^^^^^
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Post by foreverfan on May 21, 2023 17:07:03 GMT
Just when you think at my age..lol.. that you've heard all that there is...... TTTS edit turns up... wonderful, always one of my favourite solo tracks.. ( 1982 onwards )... will now search out the edit of WYAAM , still my favourite solo, and never heard of the edit mix...
Where have I been !!!
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Post by foreverfan on May 19, 2023 18:28:46 GMT
Gold falls from 10 to 14 this week on the official U.K. Album charts on approximately 5100 sales mainly streams of course, total of 1098 weeks in the top 100.
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Post by foreverfan on May 19, 2023 18:23:54 GMT
In total 8 Eurovision entrants chart in the official U.K. Top 75 and a total of 11 in the top 100, Alas next week we will be lucky ( or not ..lol ) for 2 to survive... both with probable big falls.
It's the first time in the 71 contests that there are 4 entries in the top 10 , beating ironically 1974 when 3 made the top 10 ( not at the same time though ).
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Post by foreverfan on May 18, 2023 16:04:25 GMT
As good a place as any to post this...
So far in 2023, Gold has sold approx 84,000 and is the 11th best selling album in the U.K. On average it sells between 4000 to 5000 a week mainly made up of streams and so far has been a constant in the top 20 and been at number 10 four separate times it's highest position so far in 2023.
On course yet again for around 175-200k by the end of the year.
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Post by foreverfan on May 18, 2023 9:08:00 GMT
Johnny,
To my utter frustration, these " other " charts have very little relevance. Where do you find sales facts i.e. Book, or am I such a dinosaur that it's all on line like Wiki. Also all the " facts" are based on the Official Charts, Top 75 ! ( Why on earth not a top 100 these days ), by the Official Charts Company, ironically they publish all those " other " charts but dont really do anything with them.
Does HNY on 7 inch vinyl making number one on probably pathetic sales make the fact books...?
I guess there's no accurate way these days to keep everyone happy and perhaps I shouldn't hark back to what I think were better times, and move into 21st century...
I know we digress from topic but in this case evolution of conversation, there's so few of us these days
I see loads of speculation on ABBA next year, in U.K. News papers, all rumour of course even Goral has said " something" ...unlikely... oh what to believe ..lol Back on topic.....
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Post by foreverfan on May 17, 2023 16:18:18 GMT
As an aside Lorena Euphoria , seems to be a bigger hit than it actually was, yes it made number 3 but was only in the Uktop 40 for 4 weeks. It's chart run was 85,3,13,20,30,41,42,60,64,75,59,77,79, 92, 75. I don't expect Tattoo to do much better, probably worse we are 11 years on and charts are rubbish, it will not get much airplay and will plummet the following weeks, As Johnny says so will Mae, effectively career over in the U.K.
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Post by foreverfan on May 17, 2023 16:12:08 GMT
There's no disrespect for Sam, he comes across as a very nice person and wish him All the best.
Alas it looks as here in the U.K. Anyone can have a hit album these days and yes even have a number one ( you can usually get to number 1 on a measley 20.000) for usually 1 week as in Sams case and then usually plummet out of the charts, he managed a low 7 weeks in total, ( not many artists spend long now, especially new acts ). So his success is relative, none of his other 3 " hit " singles made the top 40. Not sure how sold out his concerts are ? are they small venues holding a few hundred ?
That all sounds rather " bitchy" it's not meant to be, alas it's just a fact of today, and puts into perspective the achievement of Voyage.. remarkable really.
Eurovision has helped Sams career for one hit, Its a sad state of affairs regarding the UK charts , and let's be honest here if it wasn't for streaming, Gold would have disappeared years ago, the fact that it's approaching 1100 ( in 3 weeks time ) is testament only to the way charts are calculated these days.
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Post by foreverfan on May 16, 2023 7:52:22 GMT
^^welcome back..technology !!
Mixed feelings about Sweden 2024, and the rumours will be rife. I guess it will be impossible not to at least reference them, as for an appearance I would say that's not out of the question, a performance probably very unlikely. Would a new track cut it on the night if only a video. I can't imagine Sweden not putting on a huge spectacular show, and ABBA will be there in some form , Bjorn a presenter ? As before we will see and a year can be a long time,
Johnny, your correct these mid week' charts are pretty meaningless really, I'll be surprised if no more than 3 will be in the top 75 by the end of the week. U.K. And Sweden, possibly top 20 and Finland, unless translated into English will not feature to high, for all to plummet probably out of the chart the following week.
Which then beggars the question especially in the UK , is it all worth it as it doesn't equate into stardom even Sam Ryder , didn't get to number 1 with Space Man and hasn't really. Done anything chart wise since. For me it's a fun nights watching, but has very little relevance to popular music...
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Post by foreverfan on May 14, 2023 7:48:51 GMT
And so it starts...lol
Can't wait to read all of them......
Probably we will get nothing just a side mention....
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Post by foreverfan on May 14, 2023 6:55:00 GMT
We now have a full year of rumours..lol
It could be very interesting for us.. will they won't they.... it would be a perfect ending.. I for one would be happy with that, Id even be happy if they sang Thank You For The Music, perhaps a very fitting finale..
We wait... love the thought of all those rumours though...
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Post by foreverfan on May 12, 2023 6:37:50 GMT
I won't be getting that part of my life back...I'd rather have watched I'm A Celebrity..lol
It was really a very poor 2nd Semi Final, with not one act standing out, or in with a chance to win, even Austria, a fan favourite seemed a bit dull, ( who opens the final) perhaps it was all the other dirges bringing it down, all in all not good watching. That aside I enjoyed , a brief highlight , Poland, but even that was a yesteryear throwback.
The draw for the final has been made, and most of the " good " songs are in the first half... so plenty of opportunities to make a cuppa tea, drink another bottle of wine...
I think , it's going to be between Sweden and Finland come the end, UK possibly top 10, ( after last night's clip of showing her live, I'm so sure anymore) , but with overall standard so low, for at least 20 of the 26... unless there's a surprise.. noticed Albania has become popular !!! Lol.. it really is all you can do.. laugh.. God forbid Croatia wins....
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Post by foreverfan on May 10, 2023 9:18:19 GMT
Watched the first semi final for my sins..lol
it was very predictable, 10/15 acts go through rest go home, to say there were some dreadful choices is an understatement, personally only about 6 deserved to go through, but hey it's all about the " show" theses days and a full on entertainment show for 3 minutes with sometimes the song coming secondary...
Of course the favourites got through, and trying to keep tension going until last act announced which was Norway..
So big favourites Sweden, Finland Israel and Norway easily make it a few more obscure like Moldova which ironically is quite catchy... a couple of weird from Croatia and Serbia and a few forgettable..
Personally a pleasant surprise was Portugal...
Ireland went home yet agin, they just cant qualify 5 years now...
Onto Thursdays next batch....
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Post by foreverfan on May 8, 2023 18:25:39 GMT
Gigiola Cinquetti from Italy won 1964 and came 2nd to a little known group in 1974...
With just under a week to go, Sweden are still favourites with Finland also heavily tipped...
UK should be a top 10....
Dark horses.... France.....
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Post by foreverfan on May 4, 2023 9:08:41 GMT
From Colin...
Waterloo got a UK Platinum Award on 14th April for 600k sales ( streams ) along with its previous sales ( mostly physical ) it has sold about 1,000,000 since 1974.
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Post by foreverfan on May 4, 2023 6:12:12 GMT
^^^ Alas Gary my sources only go back to 1980, I believe anything prior is quite sketchy in getting true figures, therefore Guesstimate only MMM being a prime example as we know.
The Official Charts Company here in the UK has just presented ABBA ( and a few others) with an award for 1 billion plus streams here in the UK, not bad for a so called heritage act ....
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Post by foreverfan on May 3, 2023 10:29:37 GMT
Looking back at my 1981 The Music Chronicle by Sean Gregory....
The upto date final chart of 1981
One Of Us sold 400k in its 4 week stint in 81 and was 31st best selling single. ( this I guess ties up with the 500k plus we hear about, adding it’s 6 weeks in 82).
LAYLOM, sold 120k and ended up 156th best seller, not bad for a 12 inch only
The Visitors ( album) when adding in those final few weeks which was left off sold 570k and was 4th best selling album of 81 Super Trouper, shifted another 175k and ended up 37th Greatest Hits 2 sold 65k and ended up 119th
Apparently a lot of research had gone into these figures. And as stated takes into account the final 2/3 weeks of the year that are not published under Wikipedia for example
By the end of 81.. Super Trouper single , was the 6th best seller of the decade ( so far ). On 820k Abba were also the 6th best selling singles artist on approx 2,050,000
Super Trouper ( album) by end of 81 was the best selling album of the decade with 1.025,000 Abba were 2nd best selling artists( behind The Police) 2,095,000
Hope you find of interest.. more to follow....
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