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Post by josef on Sept 15, 2016 16:43:14 GMT
If only Tom Oliver had also played the DJ.
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Sept 15, 2016 16:22:09 GMT
Post by josef on Sept 15, 2016 16:22:09 GMT
A lot of ABBA's songs are very 'sweet', aren't they? And that's not to everyone's taste. Hasta Manana, for instance (which I love).. maybe that's too cloying for some folk. Same with Chiquitita and I Have A Dream. It's laid on a bit thick.
As I said, I don't have a problem with anyone disliking ABBA (or anything I like- after all, I have some very strong dislikes myself) but what shocked me was the venom in her voice and her screwed up face. Anyone would think I'd just mentioned Gary Glitter or something!
I wish now I'd simply been strong and said something along the lines of, ''Oh ok, that's fine. But don't talk out of your backside; a song like Knowing Me, Knowing Me (or any of the ones chelseacharger mentioned) is nowhere near cheesy, don't be silly now.'' Then again, she might not have heard of most of them.
One thing is certain, the VERY NEXT TIME I see her, ABBA will be blasting out of that jukebox, just to wind her up!
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Sept 14, 2016 17:14:32 GMT
Post by josef on Sept 14, 2016 17:14:32 GMT
Yes, maybe catchy=cheesy to some people too.
Also, of the four Bjorn's cheesy grin was off the scale. Maybe that had something to do with it. I like cheese but some brands are too strong for me. However, I always thought me and blue cheese wouldn't get on but I had some recently and enjoyed it. So maybe a little cheese is acceptable but come on too strong and it turns people off?
So I guess it's all a question of taste and what your definition of cheese actually is. And some are good and some are bad, depending on your subjective taste.
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Post by josef on Sept 14, 2016 0:02:02 GMT
It's such a shame the film has been tainted by this but it already was, just by having him in it. His role was irritating and took up far too much airtime. I didn't want to see him jumping out of bed in his horrible underwear or walking mournfully during I've Been Waiting For You and spoiling a lovely song. But what's done is done. Maybe an edited version could be cobbled together, cutting that character out somehow? They can do anything with CGI these days! Bjorn and Benny are loaded- they could commission someone to do it? The original ABBA-The Movie will still exist but this would give new people the opportunity to see that amazing live footage on television of ABBA at their zenith.
OK, I'm rambling but I would so like to see some kind of solution to this. I mean, if they can make films like Avatar and bring the likes of Marilyn Monroe and Audrey Hepburn back to life (not that I'm too keen on this, it's kinda spooky) then it must be a piece of cake to replace this actor in the film somehow using the magic of today's technology. Let's eradicate him, yes?
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Post by josef on Sept 13, 2016 20:18:08 GMT
It's OK, I don't hate OR love it. I can understand why someone would hate it and I can understand why someone might really like it. I don't think it's that terrible but I'm not bothered if I never heard it again (but I will, of course).
Alan makes a very good point about Agnetha and Frida's vocals. They really do shine as backing vocalists. It's an interesting point.
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Sept 12, 2016 16:00:17 GMT
Post by josef on Sept 12, 2016 16:00:17 GMT
That's very true, and I like cheese. Even Benny said something along the lines of how it's a wonder they weren't killed for being so corny. I'm supposing he meant their image but probably some of the music too.
I'm not bothered that the lady in question doesn't share my view, not in the least. I'm just curious. ABBA aren't going to be everyone's cup of tea. As I said, if she'd simply expressed dislike then I could have understood it but it was the venom which was shocking. I have a sense of humour and normally would have quipped something along the lines of calm down, did they steal your internal organs or something but I was gobsmacked because she's such a tiny little thing. Just goes to show don't judge a book by its cover. Maybe she's a Death Metal fan.
Anyway, I doubt I'll bump into her for another 6 months so I'll have to wait for any elaboration, by which time I'll probably not give two hoots anyway. I think I'll suss out who she's a fan of and say, "Oh, no. They're DREADFUL!" by way of a tease.
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Post by josef on Sept 11, 2016 10:28:59 GMT
It's wonderful to be able to see these pictures, many of which are new to me. Thank God for the internet in that respect.
I would like a book and of course a CD of this period in ABBA's history. I am crossing my fingers that it happens sooner rather than later. It's strange that it hasn't happened already considering that this was such a high point in the group's career.
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Sept 11, 2016 10:20:40 GMT
Post by josef on Sept 11, 2016 10:20:40 GMT
I can fully understand someone not liking something but what I didn't understand was the use of the word 'hate'. So vehemently used. It just seems so irrational and out of proportion. There are many things not to my liking but I can still appreciate the artistry. I suppose logic goes out the window when you develop a distaste for something. I agree there's no point in trying to convince someone otherwise but what frustrates me is the lack of explanation. I hate things like war...injustice...not a group whose music brought pleasure to millions.
Maybe it really is a musical snobbery thing.
I'd just like to understand why, that's all. I can accept a viewpoint but it does help if someone elaborates as to why rather than just a blanket statement of hate.
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Sept 10, 2016 22:51:44 GMT
Post by josef on Sept 10, 2016 22:51:44 GMT
Oh, you. I wanted serious responses.
Oh, well, I tried.
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Post by josef on Sept 10, 2016 21:56:55 GMT
I've not seen that picture of Mona and Agnetha before. I don't think they resemble one another much at all.
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Sept 10, 2016 21:51:22 GMT
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Post by josef on Sept 10, 2016 21:51:22 GMT
Well, my first thread here and I'd welcome any input.
So, last night I was out and bumped into an old acquaintance, a nice lady in her late 60's whom I've chatted to on and off for a few years. Anyway, we're sat in the beer garden and there's a jukebox in the pub which I sometimes play ABBA on, not exclusively- I'll often play the likes of Goldfrapp, Portishead, Saint Etienne... a real smorgasbord. ABBA comes on, she suddenly says, "Oh, I hate ABBA!" I'm stunned. "Really?!" I exclaim. "Yes, they're too cheesy, I HATE them!" I was dumbfounded and struggled to know what to say. Her opinion, to which she is of course entitled, but I was shocked at the vitriol in her voice, it was so unexpected. I mumbled something about how wonderful they were, supremely talented and how I was perplexed that she would refer to the group that way when there are far worse culprits. But I left it there and we chatted about other stuff.
However, I wish I could have quizzed her more. And suggested songs in their catalogue which defy the cheese tag, but I didn't.
Anyway, how would you have dealt with it? Would you even bother to debate it? Do you think she made a fair accusation? I'm curious as to what fans think, being as objective as possible. Thanks.
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Post by josef on Sept 10, 2016 15:21:00 GMT
Me neither. I assumed he'd been very poorly but had recovered. His contribution to the ABBA sound cannot be underestimated.
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Post by josef on Sept 8, 2016 19:39:26 GMT
Reassuringly low: Lovelight (sorry Josef!) Grrrrrrr! I'd love to partake more in things like this but I go blind when I look at lots of numbers and stats, you know? It all goes blurry. I have had a quick scan. I think my brain is more active on the other side- the emotional, feeling side or whatever. I'm not very technical.
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Post by josef on Sept 7, 2016 20:05:03 GMT
As much as I consider myself a loyal fan I'm unlikely to buy anything ABBA-related these days unless there's new material and as that seems unlikely....
Don't get me wrong, if I was browsing and spotted something then my impulse might take over. But I'm really not sure when I'll next buy anything. The last time was the Live album.
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Post by josef on Sept 6, 2016 20:21:37 GMT
Talking of lookalikes, you'd think the biggest one would be much closer to home, i.e her daughter. Linda. But I just don't really see it. I see much more of her father in her facial features.
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Post by josef on Sept 5, 2016 23:27:21 GMT
I'm stunned at some of these. I can definitely see a resemblance in certain areas. It might be just skin tone (Agnetha has a flawless complexion), or the eyes, nose, something in the actual pose or whatever but it is undoubtedly there.
As Spock would say- "Fascinating."
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Post by josef on Sept 5, 2016 23:10:37 GMT
Thanks! I'll check it out forthwith.
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Post by josef on Sept 5, 2016 14:37:39 GMT
Hello, I'm also a migrant from the other forum. There are some great people there so I hope they all join. I think some were already members of both.
I'm happy to chat and debate but I also like looking at (and occasionally posting) pictures of the group and individual members so it's all good.
Look forward to working out how to navigate around the forum!
J
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