If I remember it right, Waterloo was meant to be recorded in Spanish during ABBA's promotional visit to Spain in 1974 but the filming of the TV special Señoras y Señores took much longer than expected and ABBA simply didn't have time to go into to the studio to record it.
Today I watched the Something's Going On documentary on the SGO box set for the first time and realized it's just around 11 minutes long and is cut off in the middle of the scene of recording Shot Down In Action. I don't actually mind much, as I have the complete documentary on the Frida DVD, I was just wondering if the flaw is just on my copy or if somebody else here noticed it too.
gary, Some countries become problematic if you visit certain others beforehand. A friend of mine told me about a guy, who went to Iran one year and the following year he was in terrible trouble in Izrael because of it... they interrogated him for several hours and gave him a really hard time. As I said before, I'm toying with the idea of visiting Sweden since my secondary school days but something always got into the way - mostly health or financial problems. But it is definitely one of the dreams I want to realize, while the others are less likely to happen, most of all because I don't have time...
That's the one album I'm definitely planning to buy on vinyl one day too. Absolute masterpiece! I believe it will be re-released probably next year together with När En Vacker Tanke Blir En Sång (great album as well), following the re-release of her first three Cupol LPs. I guess Michael Tretow was the engineer though... Agnetha "only" produced the record.
RING RING Ring Ring (English) - 4 Another Town, Another Train - 5 Disillusion - 6 People Need Love - 4 I Saw It In The Mirror - 1 (the least favourite ABBA song of mine) Nina, Pretty Ballerina - 6 Love Isn't Easy (But Is Sure Is Hard Enough) - 4 Me And Bobby And Bobby's Brother - 3 He Is Your Brother - 8 (the live version would certainly get 10!) She's My Kind Of Girl - 4 I Am Just A Girl - 6 Rock 'N' Roll Band - 6 Merry-Go-Round - 5 Santa Rosa - 4 Ring Ring (Bara Du Slog En Signal) - 4 Åh, Vilka Tider - 3 Ring Ring (German) - 4 Wer Im Wartesaal Der Leibe Steht - 4
WATERLOO Waterloo (English) - 8 Sitting In The Palmtree - 5 King Kong Song - 7 Hasta Mañana - 8 My Mama Said - 7 Dance (While The Music Still Goes On) - 9 Honey Honey - 9 Watch Out - 4 What About Livingstone - 5 Gonna Sing You My Lovesong - 7 Suzy-Hang-Around - 6 Ring Ring (US Remix) - 3 Waterloo (Swedish) - 8 Honey Honey (Swedish) - 9 Waterloo (German) - 7 Waterloo (French) - 8 Ring Ring (Remix Single Version) - 3 Waterloo (Alternate) - 7
ABBA Mamma Mia - 10 Hey, Hey Helen - 7 Tropical Loveland - 7 SOS - 8 Man In The Middle - 6 Bang-A-Boomerang - 7 I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do - 6 Rock Me - 7 Intermezzo No.1 - 8 I've Been Waiting For You - 10 So Long - 10 Crazy World - 5 Medley: Pick A Bale Of Cotton - 7 I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do (Extra Verse) - does the extra verse matter?
ARRIVAL When I Kissed The Teacher - 9,5 Dancing Queen - 10 My Love, My Life - 5 (somehow I never liked this one much, but it must be the arrangement as I love Monsieur, Monsieur) Dum Dum Diddle - 5 Knowing Me, Knowing You - 10 Money, Money, Money - 10 That's Me - 8 Why Did It Have To Be Me - 7 Tiger - 8 Arrival - 6 Fernando - 10 Happy Hawaii - 6 Dancing Queen (Extra Verse) - dtto I Do
THE ALBUM - this one will be tough, my most favourite ABBA album... Eagle - 9,8 Take A Chance On Me - 10 One Man, One Woman - 9,8 The Name Of The Game - 10 Move On - 10+ Hole In Your Soul - 10+ Thank You For The Music - 9 I Wonder (Departure) - 8,5 I'm A Marionette - 10 Eagle (Single Edit) - 8 The Name Of The Game (Single Edit) - 7 (it completely spoils the song) I Wonder (Live) - 9 Take A Chance On Me (Live) - Take A Chance On Me (Alternative without Agnetha's spoken part) - The Name Of The Game (Alternative) -
VOULEZ-VOUS As Good As New - 9,5 Voulez-Vous - 8,5 I Have A Dream - 6 Angeleyes - 10 The King Has Lost His Crown - 8 Does Your Mother Know - 6 If It Wasn't For The Nights - 8 Chiquitita - 9 Lovers (Live A Little Longer) - 8 Kisses Of Fire - 8 Summer Night City - 8 Lovelight - 8,5 Gimme Gimme Gimme - 10 Dreamworld - 6 Does Your Mother Know (Early Version) - 7 If It Wasn't For The Nights (Early Versions) - haven't heard for a very long time... Lovelight (Single Edit) - 8 Lovelight (Alternative) - 7 Summer Night City (Intro) - 8,5 Voulez-Vous (US Extended Mix) - 8
GRACIAS POR LA MUSICA - all songs = their English counterpart -1, Al Andar and Conociéndome, Conociéndote -2 Gracias Por La Musica - Reina Danzante - Al Andar - Dame Dame Dame - Fenando (Spanish) - Estoy Sonando - Mamma Mia (Spanish) - Hasts Mañana (Spanish) - Conociéndome, Conociéndote - Chiquitita (Spanish) - Felicidad - Andante, Andante (Spanish) - No Hay A Quien Culpar - Se Me Esta Escapando - Ring Ring (Spanish) -
SUPER TROUPER Super Trouper - 8 The Winner Takes It All - 10 On And On And On - 8 Andante, Andante - 7 Me And I - 7 Happy New Year - 6 Our Last Summer - 10 The Piper - 10 Lay All Your Love On Me - 8 The Way Old Friends Do - 8 Elaine - 7,5 Put On Your White Sombrero - 6 Andante, Andante (Alternative) - On And On And On (Extra Verse) - 8,5 Our Last Summer (Recent Alternative) -
THE VISITORS The Visitors - 8,5 Head Over Heels - 7 When All Is Said And Done - 8 Soldiers - 9 I Let The Music Speak - 9 One Of Us - 7 Two For The Price Of One - 7,5 Slipping Through My Fingers - 8,5 Like An Angel Passing Through My Room - 9,5 Should I Laugh Or Cry - 8 When All Is Said And Done (Instrumental Demo) - 6 When All Is Said And Done (Extra Verse) - Two For The Price Of One (Demo Lyrics) - 6
1982 You Owe Me One - 4 Just Like That (Slow) - 8,5 Just Like That (Na Na Na) - 7 Just Like That (Sax) - 7 I Am The City - 10 Cassandra - 9,5 Under Attack - 8 The Day Before You Came - 10 The Day Before You Came (Cold Ending) - 9 Cassandra (Cold Ending) - 8 Under Attack (Cold Ending) - 7,5
OTHER Private Singles Sang Till Görel - 3 Hovas Vittne - 8 Tivedshambo (1981) - 3
Live California Here I Come - 4 I Am An A - 7 Get On The Carousel - 7 I'm Still Alive - 9 Under My Sun - 8 Tivedshambo (1986) - 6 The Way Old Friends Do (2016) - does it count among ABBA songs?
Undeleted Scaramouch - 8 Summer Night City - 4 Billy Boy - Baby - 7 Just A Notion - 6 Rikky Rock 'N' Roller - 7 Burning My Bridges - 5 Tango - 8 Here Comes Rubie Jamie - 5 Hamlet (Instrumental) - 8 Hamlet (Singing) - 9 Free As A Bumble Bee - 5 Rubber Ball Man - 8 Crying Over You - 3 Givin' A Little More - 4
From A Twinkling Star To A Passing Angel Twinkle Twinkle Little Star - 4 Another Morning Without You - 8 Like An Angel Passing Through My Room (Disco) - 3 Like An Angel Passing Through My Room (Operetic) - don't remember that one... Like An Angel Passing Through My Room (Last Bit) - 8
B+B for Chess Opus 10 - 6 When The Waves Roll Out To Sea - haven't heard for ages Every Good Man - 6
Other than that, I am trying to visit every country in the world. I'm at 105 out of 196 at the moment.
Hats off! Any favourites so far? And have you been to some of the "problematic" ones such as North Korea yet? Now I feel like an absolute loser, planning (and failing) to visit Sweden for more than a decade!
There were times I was crazy about Agnetha and there were times I just couldn't get enough of Frida... These days I would say I like them both equally, if it is actually possible. I usually claim to prefer Frida's solo work just to find myself listening to Agnetha's more often :-) But maybe it's just because Agnetha recorded more albums. I don't want to go into details about what I like about each of them, because it usually stirs up heated discussions as shoshin indicated...
I've never been too keen on the musical, I haven't even seen it on theatre, even if it was staged in my country recently (actually I was so afraid of the translations that maybe subconsciously I was deliberately looking for reasons to miss it). However, the movie was a great fun and I remember laughing a lot at the cinema the first time a I saw it. You can have your reservations regarding certain actors' singing abilities but Meryl Streep was fabulous. So I am looking forward to the sequel. And the general public will get to hear more of the lesser known ABBA tracks through it.
The same information is on ABBA The Site... I wonder what made Björn and Benny change their minds. I'm curious what songs will make it into the movie. I see a chance for Just Like That this time :-) Hopefully the story will be strong enough but Judy Craymer had a lot of time to think about it as the sequel was talked about ever since the first movie became a blockbuster.
I received my copy on Tuesday. It looks fabulous. Can't say anything about the sound though, as I don't have a gramophone. By the way, the LP is number one on Sverige Topplistan Vinyl chart while Agnetha's Som Jag Är is at No. 2: /photo/1
...their magical 'third voice' arises from Agnetha operating slightly lower than her ideal key and Frida reaching some way above hers...
Personally I've always preferred if Agnetha wasn't forced to sing too high (with certain exceptions such as her amazing performance in Hole In Your Soul) - there's something magical in the way she sings Move On for instance. And when Frida harmonizes above her, it sounds almost heavenly And we all know the miracles they can work when singing in usison.
While I'm not against various re-releases, this is indeed ridiculous as the only "bonus" feature here is the golden colour of the vinyl. I really don't see the target group for this... It will hardly do anything for boosting the sales of Gold as the previous re-issues did. And the 1992 logo is just awful - is anybody nostalgic about it?
...I always believed they were somehow edited out of the mix so that Agnetha could release it as a solo single. I had no clue that she re-recorded both songs...
Her solo versions are sung in a higher key than the cast ones
Frida recorded these songs too.
I haven't realized that, it was the different arrangement that took my attention in the first place. It seems Agnetha sings the songs with less power but extra dose of tenderness on the cast recording. I've never liked Frida's versions which lack emotions in my opinion...
jensj2, Thanks for sharing that, I couldn't stop laughing!
I was just wondering if I was the only one who wasn't aware that there are two different versions of these songs - the ones Agnetha released on single (those we all know from various compilations) and the ones that appeared on the original Swedish cast recording of Jesus Christ Superstar. Obviously, on the single version of Nu Ska Du Bli Stilla the Judas' and Jesus' parts are missing but I always believed they were somehow edited out of the mix so that Agnetha could release it as a solo single. I had no clue that she re-recorded both songs. Her solo versions sound much better and it's not only because the singers who played Judas and Jesus were simply horrible IMO Still the original versions are quite charming and I'm cursing myself for not buying the cast recording when it was freely available... It's practically impossible to get it these days.
By the way, eBay is not bad, I managed to get quite a few items for very good prices there. And it's where you will find my collection when I go bankrupt The problem are the people who buy things like the Frida LP with the sole purpose of re-selling it immediately...
I managed to order mine yesterday evening at Bengans. It was in stock so I hope it will arrive. I must have been one of the first people to order it because the announcement that RSD releases are available for online ordering came about 20 minutes later and it was a bit tricky to find the record on the web at the time. Today it's not in stock but they still have it listed with the "BUY" button active, which is kind of strange as they usually remove the items that are not available anymore. Maybe they have some remaining copies yet so give it a try.
By the way, I agree with Alan, that it's irritating you cannot reserve a copy beforehand.
The problem with The Visitors was that half of the songs were recorded in analogue and the other half in digital and they sounded so different that they had to convert the digital ones into analogue to get the same amount of noise. At least that's what's been said about the matter. Otherwise thanks for explaining! I don't know much about these things but it's very interesting.
P.S. I have some problems with quoting recently... It's impossible to place the reply after the quote.
And Abba ran into the same issue with the Visitors... eventually after recording in all digital, they didnt like the sound and had Tretow convert a bunch of it back into analog. At least I think thats what happened.
It is true that analog has a certain characteristic that CDs or digi does not... its hard to put into words, but warmth or softness are often used. Therefore even a vinyl album cut from a digi master source, will sound differently than a CD cut from the same digi master source. Better? Hard to say.
I always believed it's due to a low capacity of a CD? That some parts of the sound are simply missing... And the use of digital media with bigger capacity (DVD or BD) should solve the problem. I thought the digital recording and mastering itself is beneficial because there's no hiss, distortion and the copying is lossless. Even ABBA used digital recorders at the end of their career. Also I've read somewhere that the first CDs sounded bad because they used the masters meant for cutting LPs and the sound characteristics of LP and CD are different - hence all the remastering. What I don't understand is why they remaster the sound for re-releases on vinyl - it should be perfect?
It may be so... let us not forget that we wouldn't have things like Put On Your White Sombrero or Dream World if it wasn't for the first edition of the book. The problem is that back in 1993 Björn and Benny were with him in the studio and sort of rediscovered some of the unreleased tracks and found out there actually was some material worth releasing. It won't be the case this time. Still I think it's good that the vaults will be thoroughly mapped because otherwise there's absolutely no hope of releasing anything of it. This way it is at least possible to make suggestions :-) However what Palm's true motivation is we can only guess. After all, he is an ABBA fan too and he would be a fool to miss the opportunity to listen to all the unreleased stuff, wouldn't he?
By the way, what's wrong with ABBATalk? I haven't heard about them before but I noticed some negative remarks here.
Thanks for explaining. I have noticed that Frida uses her head voice when harmonizing above Agnetha (besides IBWFY in Move On to a great effect). And I've read in the book ABBA Let The Music Speak about the fact that if they sing in unison, Frida is more prominent in lower register while Agnetha prevails when they go higher. What I don't fully understand though is if Agnetha could go much higher if she used her head voice? You said: "Agnetha can belt more or less right to the top of her range..." Does that simply mean she can use both her chest voice and head voice in approximately the same range or could we expect her reach yet higher? I mean... all of the reported high notes she sings in ABBA songs (B5 in HIYS) are belted or even screamed (King Kong Song) and she uses her head voice sometimes when singing harmonies but we never experienced her singing like Frida did - i.e. using head voice to go higher than usual.