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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 11:40:26 GMT
Gary -- Thanks for the ABBA-Cher-Madonna Video Clip Link. Beneath it, someone asks in Spanish, where ABBA are in the Clip. They are shown in the Video, but it is hard to actually hear them. The Guy, who 'Mashed' it, says that ABBA are used as backing vocalists. That is why Cher & Madonna are far easier to hear in it.
There are now several Madonna/Chart 'Mashups' of 'Hung Up' - 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!' I like this one most of all:
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Post by madonnabba on Aug 11, 2018 11:42:33 GMT
Thanks Gary. Heaven is a place on Earth. Loved that.
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Post by gary on Aug 11, 2018 11:51:57 GMT
Agnetha and Frida as backing singers to Cher and Madonna! Truly, if you wanted to find evidence that this world is in a bad state, this is it! 😂
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 12:52:42 GMT
Track 10, (The Final Track), on Cher's Album may be a re-recording of her version of 'Fernando'. It may be that which is 'Special', if Agnetha and Frida join her on it. That may be the 'Mystery Track'. It looks like 'SOS' may be the 2nd 'Single' from Cher's 'Dancing Queen' Album. She can sing perfectly well, so I do hope that she does not use a Vocoder or Auto-Tune on every ABBA Track. It will sound very strange on the slower ABBA Songs. (Assuming that she does not speed up all of the Tracks! ).
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Post by Liebezeit on Aug 11, 2018 16:43:49 GMT
Well, I'm glad Cher has arranged ABBA's songs as if they were her own. Faithful, but with a good amount of Cher touch. I'm looking forward to this album with great enthusiasm. It makes her look less of a sellout (wink wink, Cristy Lane!!). Should Cher balance her use of auto-tuning in Dancing Queen the album, I'll definitely have it streaming on Spotify nonstop. Understanding her obvious choice of ABBAsongs, that's a fine example of grabbing attention and making money (writing this in a positive way). I don't mind a year of waiting for Cher's second ABBA ballads and followup dance songs (I've Been Waiting For You, Nina Pretty Ballerina).
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Post by Liebezeit on Aug 11, 2018 16:48:00 GMT
Agnetha and Frida as backing singers to Cher and Madonna! Truly, if you wanted to find evidence that this world is in a bad state, this is it! 😂 Not fair! lol To even it out a bit Frida and Cher should do a duet like Agnetha should duet with Madonna.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 1:03:22 GMT
Once upon a time, seventeen-year-old Cher stood in the wings of an LA recording studio watching her boyfriend Sonny getting harassed by ...Phil Spector. As a fan of balance in the universe, I kind of like what's happening here!
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Post by foreverfan on Aug 14, 2018 7:03:14 GMT
After all the initial excitement of GGG, it only enters the UK mid week charts at 72, and going down in the I tunes charts..peaking at 17 now at 44
Will it recover?
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Post by foreverfan on Aug 23, 2018 18:00:29 GMT
With the relative failure of GGG not making the official UK singles chart, SOS has now been released on YouTube, Personally as much as I like her voice, the track is purely a cover version without much deviance, nothing to get to excited about. Beginning to think To much ABBA around..... did I actually say that Cher is getting lost...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2018 13:15:53 GMT
Due to the hype, I'm pretty sure that the Cher Album will reach the Top 10 in several Countries. However, the Songs have sold so well for ABBA and the 'Mamma Mia!' Films, that I'm not expecting the Album to hang around for very long. She may well decide to scrap the idea of doing a 2nd ABBA Album. People don't want to keep buying those same old ABBA Songs. They've done that for ABBA, without other Artists covering them. It does not matter that the Cher Singles have not been huge. it is the same for all 'Old' Acts now. Streaming stops their Singles from being big Hits, but they can still do quite well in Album Charts...
By the way - since Streaming was added to the Swedish Album Chart, ABBA can no longer get into it! The 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Film has not been able to get anything by ABBA to re-enter the Swedish Album Chart. 'ABBA Gold' was able to reach No.22 there, due to Film 1, in 2008, but Film 2 has not seen anything by ABBA re-enter their Album Chart. It is really weird, but it seems to be because ABBA cannot get much Swedish Streaming, for their Albums. It is a shock, to see this...
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Post by foreverfan on Sept 12, 2018 16:48:59 GMT
3rd promo single has been announced.. it's One Of Us..
so far neither GGG or SOS has made the UK official singles charts, the album will do better, but singles as stated before no longer work for older chart acts, that could include ABBA...
the charts , for older acts to chart here in the UK , need to be changed, which is unlikely...
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Post by Zeebee on Sept 13, 2018 21:04:11 GMT
I said in a previous post that it would be interesting to hear Cher sing Like An Angel Passing Through My Room. It also would be interesting to hear her sing The King Has Lost His Crown.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 17:54:10 GMT
Graham -- None of the Cher Singles has had a Physical release. That has severely held them back. The ABBA Singles are to be given more than one Physical Format. Their release will be an 'Event'. The Cher Singles are not seen as an 'Event'. She was never as big as ABBA. Nor has she taken well over 30 Years to record New Singles.
Cher's Singles have been getting Air Play. A lot of DJ's are interested in them. However, they are just not doing at all well via Streaming. Hence why they cannot get into the Main UK Top 100...
She has now admitted that she never liked ABBA, in the 1970's. She said that she felt Benny & Bjorn used Agnetha's and Frida's voices, like instruments, on the Songs. That Sonny used to use her voice in the same way. In fact, every Producer, who ever used big Production techniques, used voices in that way. Sonny used to work for Phil Spector. Cher sang backing, on some Phil Spector Singles. There is nothing bad or wrong, about using vocals as extra Instruments.
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Post by Zeebee on Sept 17, 2018 20:52:20 GMT
I have merged the two threads about Cher's album.
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Post by foreverfan on Sept 18, 2018 16:43:31 GMT
Ok, I understand ..to a point... but why not have a physical release? It seems pointless to release any track as a single otherwise, especially as pointed out older acts are finding it increasingly difficult to chart, their companies must surely know that... Its a different era, not necessarily better and some tracks are for promotion only , for the album, I do understand that... I guess Agnethas foray into the singles , was a flop for the singles , but great for the album. Therefore is the emphasis now on the Album charts, but it's still so important to have a number single, a paradox if you don't release a format that sells...frustrating...if Cher had the correct formats she potentially had three ABBA tracks that would've charted, officially though chart wise all were flops... For fun....Cher to have a top 20 album possibly a top 10.. I think we may be beginning to be ABBA overloaded..
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Post by foreverfan on Sept 21, 2018 11:51:49 GMT
One Of Us.. by Cher.. Dare I say it , stripped back , great vocals , ( of course) very good. im not a huge fan of covers of ABBA, but come on this is Cher, and so far from what I've heard she does a good job, albeit not deviating to far from the originals apart from OOU, which is a little standout so far... I might revise my chart placing to a top 10, possibly top 5.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 5:16:05 GMT
The Cher ABBA Album is currently the iTunes No.1 Album in 27 Countries - including the UK.
So, if it can carry that over to the proper Official Charts - in each Country - it will be huge.
It looks like it may well be far more of a Hit than I expected.
However, it is not where it is in Week 1 and Week 2, that counts. We will see where it is in the UK etc. in Week 3 and Week 4.
That will tell us if it is to be a proper Hit and not just a 1 or 2 Week 'Wonder'...
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 1, 2018 8:46:46 GMT
Well surprise surprise, it's all looking remarkably good for Cher, even a potential number 1 album on the horizons, the power of ABBA in the UK is amazing, ( not saying it's not big anywhere else, but here it's phenomenal) .
There must be some reason that after all this time , the same tracks regardless of who , still making it big, you would think we would all be sick to death of hearing another Dancing Queen, or 40 year old plus ABBA track....but apparently not..
It would make a great thesis for some university student to do , on why !
Its just a shame, that because of the why the singles charts are formatted that she can't seem to get any hit singles, in my reckoning she would possibly have had 4 ABBA related top 75 hits...so far , but statistically a big fat 0....
Mid weeks are out today that will give good indicator of what will be come Friday for the official chart.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 15:18:59 GMT
In her Twitter Account Cher is calling 'Dancing Queen' her biggest ever Album. She is genuinely surprised at how well it is doing. She was not sure if she could compete against today's 'Young' Female Acts. Well, she has an advantage over a lot of them - she can actually Sing!
It is the No.1 Album on both European & Global iTunes.
In 1998 she had the UK's 'All Time' Solo Female Single with 'Believe'. It was No.1 for 7 Weeks and sold over 1,820,000 in the UK alone. It is the UK's 17th 'All Time' Hit. However, her Album of the same Title, was 'only' a UK No.7 Hit.
This time she can't get any Hit Singles from 'Dancing Queen', but it looks like it will reach No.1 or No.2 in the UK. Her only challenger, for the No.1 Album, is Rod Stewart's New Album, which will be his 8th UK No.1 Album - if he beats Cher. If Cher's Album is No.1 it will be her 3rd in the UK, and her 1st since 1992, when her 'Greatest Hits 1965 to 1992' was No.1. It was only a few Weeks after 'ABBA Gold' was No.1. ABBA's was the 461st UK No.1 Album and Cher's was the 466th UK No.1 Album...(The 1992 Cher 'Hits' Album had its 7th and final No.1 Week in the Chart of W/E 16th January 1993).
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Post by hejiranyc on Oct 1, 2018 15:23:32 GMT
Her only challenger, for the No.1 Album, is Rod Stewart's New Album, which will be his 8th UK No.1 Album - if he beats Cher.... Good grief... is it 2018 or 1978? The more things change, the more they stay the same? Hey, I hear Barbra Streisand's new album is dropping soon...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 15:51:44 GMT
Hejiranyc -- The rumour is that Chic will also be in this Week's UK Top 5, with their 'Comeback' Album. So, the 'Golden Oldies' really are doing well this Week. Also - someone has 'leaked' today's Mid Week UK Top 2 Album Sales.
If they are accurate, (and we'll know by 17.45 today), then Cher is not going to have a No.1 with 'Dancing Queen'. Rod Stewart's 'Blood Red Roses' Album is already too far ahead of her.
His Album is in at No.1 with 25,000 sold and Cher is in at No.2 with 14,011 Sales. It is the 1st time that Rod and ABBA Songs have been at No.1 and No.2 in the UK since W/E 12th January 1980. Then 'Greatest Hits Vol. 2' rose to No.1 for a 4th Week, and ended Rod's 5 Week 'Run' with his 'Greatest Hits' Album. The ABBA Album had previously held him off the No.1 spot, for 3 Weeks, in December 1979.
It is his 9th UK No.1 Album. I forgot that he had his 8th in 2013. It brings his No.1 Albums level with ABBA, Queen and Eminem, who only had his 9th a Month ago. It is Rod's 29th No.1 Week, in the Album Chart. The same as Eminem. Queen have 21 No.1 Weeks. ABBA are far ahead of all of them, with 57 No.1 Album Weeks...
'Blood Red Roses' comes in 2 versions, which is why he has outsold Cher. Her Album is just the 10 Tracks one, and there is no 'Deluxe' version, with extra Tracks. (If ABBA ever return with a New Album, they really must get with the times and release 2 versions of it. One with, (say), 10 Tracks and the other with about 14 Tracks. Cher is using old fashioned marketing methods and they hold you back).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 17:08:56 GMT
As expected - Cher is in at No.2 with just over 14,000 UK Sales.
Rod Stewart is in at No.1 with 25,000 UK Sales.
Cher's Album is only in a 10 Track Format. Rod's Album is in a 13 Track Edition and a 16 Track Edition.
Clearly, Rod has a better idea how to multiply Album Sales than Cher does...
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Post by gazman on Oct 8, 2018 18:15:30 GMT
Cher has landed a number 3 chart position in the USA with her album 'Dancing Queen'. That is a stunning result, and matches her best solo album performance in that chart (I understand she had a number 2 US album jointly with Sonny many years prior).
Apparently the album sold c. 153,000 copies to do this.....
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Post by Michal on Oct 12, 2018 10:39:04 GMT
And imagine I've read a review recently titled "Cher must know by now it was a mistake to do the album of ABBA covers" To be honest, there were some fair points, the author evidently was an ABBA fan and he pointed out that there are two ways to do a cover - either a faithful copy that serves as a tribute to the original or a completely new version that has its own identity - and Cher is somewhere in between… I must admit I don't like cover versions generally, but Cher's album is a good promotion for ABBA and as it is such a stunning success, I guess that Cher not only does not think it was a mistake but she's already thinking about releasing a follow-up
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Post by hejiranyc on Oct 21, 2018 19:02:14 GMT
Cher has landed a number 3 chart position in the USA with her album 'Dancing Queen'. That is a stunning result, and matches her best solo album performance in that chart (I understand she had a number 2 US album jointly with Sonny many years prior). Apparently the album sold c. 153,000 copies to do this..... Well, she pretty much put her thumb on the scale to pull this off. The purchase of a pair of tickets to Cher's upcoming "Here We Go Again" tour in the U.S. automatically gets a free download/copy of her new album; this still counts towards her total sales. This is an impressive number no matter what, but one wonders how many copies she would have sold if she wasn't giving it away with the purchase of concert tickets (an arena tour, no less).
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Post by foreverfan on Dec 14, 2018 14:54:16 GMT
Just out of curiosity...
In the UK, has SOS been re-released ? It's being played a lot on Radio 2 this week, I've heard it. 3 times ( randomly )
or just coincedence .. because of the up coming tour... but whY just SOS?
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