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Post by Michal on May 15, 2020 19:02:06 GMT
Funny, there is this worldwide corona-crisis going on and I'm worrying if I ordered the highly overpriced piece of plastic I don't actually need from the right retailer… no wonder my friends and my family think I'm a maniac
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Post by HOMETIME on May 15, 2020 19:12:24 GMT
Thanks, Edmund! Like Alan, I will handle the set super carefully. With the treasures I already have, I make a point of only taking them out when my son is not around. He's only 7 and has no idea of how to respect such things and I can only imagine the carnage if he decided to, I dunno, play frisbee with a picture disc or something Like others, a part of me is going "Tony, are you crazy?" but I think this offers just that little extra that my original (black) vinyl doesn't.
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Post by Alan on May 15, 2020 20:36:10 GMT
I keep trying to tell myself that I’m not interested in this, that I don’t need it, the scans will be bad, it’s not the UK artwork and will just take up space but...
There’s still a novelty about coloured vinyl. Picture discs are not the same. Vinyl is supposed to be black, but why? Why not any other colour? Had this been black vinyl I definitely wouldn’t have been interested.
I resisted the Voulez-Vous box for six months (too many singles, all but one the same colour) but I gave in when the price came down.
I’ll keep an eye on it...
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2020 16:27:39 GMT
I must admit if I bought the coloured vinyl box set I too, would not play the box set either even if I owned a record player. Michal, no you are not a maniac just a fan who enjoys adding to his ABBA collection. We do need to brighten up our days at a time like this and divert our thoughts away from the current situation. A bit of light relief is just the tonic. Tony, I too, would keep the box set hidden if I decided to buy it and wash my hands after inspecting and admiring it.
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Post by gamleman on May 27, 2020 8:50:13 GMT
I didn't need much persuasion to order this boxset. I haven't re-bought any of their studio albums on 33rpm vinyl since their original releases, although I do have the 45rpm half-speed masters. So, coloured vinyl editions seemed the ideal opportunity. But by now I'm used to the marketing routine... offer limited quantities through named retailers so that they sell out quickly and create demand, then later make it more widely available through other retailers such as Amazon. In my experience, Amazon France usually have the best prices on these things.
It's bizarre that they should release this boxset now though. I was expecting the next releases to be for the 40th anniversary of "Super Trouper" in the Autumn. The ideal time for this boxset would have been 2022 to celebrate 50 years since their first single, "People Need Love". Or is this supposed to be celebrating 50 years since they all first recorded together on "Hej gamle man"? If so, it hasn't been made clear. It makes me wonder how they will now mark the 50 years in 2022.
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Post by Alan on May 27, 2020 16:05:55 GMT
^^ They never do mark that anniversary though. They tend to only ever mark the Eurovision anniversary. They went to town on it in 2014 so will be interesting how they can top that for the 50th.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 16:27:13 GMT
I really hope the pandemic hasn't caused a halt to the release of the ST ( 40th Anniversary Singles Box Set ). I hope it is released in November as it is my favourite ABBA studio album. Well, you need a bit of light relief now and again, and not gloom and doom all the time.
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Post by gamleman on May 27, 2020 17:06:49 GMT
I really hope the pandemic hasn't caused a halt to the release of the ST ( 40th Anniversary Singles Box Set ). I hope it is released in November as it is my favourite ABBA studio album. Well, you need a bit of light relief now and again, and not gloom and doom all the time. I don't see why it should halt the ST releases if they can release every studio album on coloured vinyl during the pandemic. I'm sure it will be out for Christmas, although how they will co-ordinate this around the release of the new songs is not clear.
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Post by HOMETIME on May 28, 2020 15:33:02 GMT
I'm willing to bet that the coloured vinyls were all pressed just before lockdown. Restrictions might possibly have affected the ultimate release date - admin for publicity etc. The Super Trouper set might not be ready to go into physical production until August/September. If the labels have a backlog of big, mainsteam releases, older back-catalogue releases might get pushed back. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but I think that this year requires a bit of flexibility from us all. I suppose it depends on the factory used, where it is, and what the lockdown restrictions are in that place.
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Post by Michal on May 28, 2020 17:06:52 GMT
^^ Actually, when I think about it, I wouldn't mind if the Super Trouper releases were delayed. We will get them in the end and I couldn't care less if it happens a year later. Maybe they will be cautious too as many people are in a position when they can't really afford buying stuff like that… As far as I'm concerned, the priority should be to release the new songs (or even full album). Everything else can be postponed.
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Post by Michal on May 28, 2020 17:15:36 GMT
By the way, I must tell I'm very very proud of myself. I stopped worrying about the coloured vinyls completely. I have it pre-ordered at the local retailer and leave it to fate. If they supply it, great. If they don't that's how it was meant to be Quite a progress, isn't it?
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Post by Alan on May 28, 2020 19:33:45 GMT
By the way, I must tell I'm very very proud of myself. I stopped worrying about the coloured vinyls completely. I have it pre-ordered at the local retailer and leave it to fate. If they supply it, great. If they don't that's how it was meant to be Quite a progress, isn't it? Hmm... surely it’s in their interest to supply it, otherwise they won’t get a sale?! I wish there was some indication as to the quality of the artwork. Two years ago, Kate Bush re-released all of her albums on vinyl (separately as well as across four boxed sets) and in each case the artwork had been re-created. With three of these, I had the originals and in each case the newer versions were far better quality in terms of artwork. These were genuine recreations as certain things (placing of text, stray strands of hair etc) were slightly different to the originals. This was all fine with me as it meant they’d taken it seriously (references to her former record company EMI also had to be replaced). With ABBA, though, it’s that lack of care that bothers me. Kate’s albums were bog-standard black vinyl (with modern labels depicting her own vanity label) but even the coloured vinyl still isn’t quite enough to make this a classic re-issue. Surely it can’t be that difficult? The fonts are there, the photos (even The Visitors and Waterloo) must surely be possible to enhance in some way. Coloured vinyl is all well and good but we really want the artwork to look better than it’s ever looked, not worse? The technology is available, why won’t they use it?
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Post by Michal on May 28, 2020 19:56:32 GMT
Alan , it's not that they don't want to supply it of course. But ordering such a limited item here is very uncertain, as Universal doesn't care much about countries such as ours and they sometimes simply don't provide our retailers with enough copies (or they supply none). It has happened to me a few times in the past and usually if I'm really interested in buying such a release, I usually order from abroad (or I order one copy from abroad and one from a local retailer and if I'm lucky and get both, I sell one later). In this case I decided to take the risk and order just here… I would also like to see the covers recreated but I don't hope... they've had a chance to do that so many times before and never bothered. And it would surely be advertised, if this box was different in this respect.
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Post by gamleman on May 29, 2020 8:08:40 GMT
^^ They never do mark that anniversary though. They tend to only ever mark the Eurovision anniversary. They went to town on it in 2014 so will be interesting how they can top that for the 50th. You are right, they don't mark the 1972 anniversary, except in 1982 with "The Singles - The First Ten Years". And I agree that they will save 50 years since Eurovision for the big celebration, but how they'll do that I don't know - they seem to be exhausting their possibilities, in terms of special releases anyway. However, I'm sure they will mark 50 years since "People Need Love" in some way - since it will also be 40 years since "The Singles", perhaps we'll get a re-issue of that.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 12:03:59 GMT
I guess it wouldn't hurt if the record companies decided to postpone release of the 40th anniversary of ST ( singles box set ) until next year. The main priority being the release of the new songs later this year. Actually, I haven't purchased any of the 40th anniversary ( singles box sets ). I don't know why I was so impatient.
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Post by gamleman on Jun 5, 2020 13:10:00 GMT
In wondering why now for this boxset release, I got thinking that this might be a hint of something to come... perhaps they want to wrap up all the 70s/80s studio albums into one coloured-vinyl boxset before a whole new album is released. Then they could even release yet another boxset containing all nine albums in 2022 or 2024. However, the news that the "Super Trouper" 40th anniversary releases will go ahead later this year has now put a doubt in my mind about a new ABBA album, this year anyway, as I'm not sure they would have two album releases before the end 2020. Also, would they really launch a brand-new album during the current world crisis? Probably, the best we can hope for is one or two new tracks before the end of the year (as half-promised) as a taster of more to come.
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Post by gazman on Jun 5, 2020 13:41:17 GMT
I hope everyone who wants one of the 8LP coloured vinyl sets manages to find one.
It is a pity that such great songs as Fernando, Summer Night City, Gimme Gimme Gimme and The Day Before You Came aren't featured. It feels like a bit of a 'historical accident' when you view the set as a whole...
It is going to be very interesting to see how ABBA's back catalogue as a whole is managed, post-release of 'I Still Have Faith In You' and 'Don't Shut Me Down'. It is nearly 20 years since the studio albums last came out in 'basic' form on CD i.e. if you ignore the Deluxe Editions.
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Post by Michal on Jun 5, 2020 14:54:39 GMT
It is nearly 20 years since the studio albums last came out in 'basic' form on CD i.e. if you ignore the Deluxe Editions. Gosh! You're right! Time flies indeed. And I still perceive the 2001 remasters as "new"! Oh my God, I'm aging alarmingly fast! By the way, I'm also curious how they will handle the back catalogue, especially if we get a whole new album. I guess the eight original albums will always be perceived as a separate entity.
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Post by justabba on Jun 5, 2020 15:01:10 GMT
The deluxe editions were great. Am I right in thinking it's not possible to purchase them these days?
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Post by Alan on Jun 5, 2020 15:20:18 GMT
It is a pity that such great songs as Fernando, Summer Night City, Gimme Gimme Gimme and The Day Before You Came aren't featured. It feels like a bit of a 'historical accident' when you view the set as a whole... It is nearly 20 years since the studio albums last came out in 'basic' form on CD i.e. if you ignore the Deluxe Editions. They could have actually added two bonus discs to this. On the bonus disc for the CD set of The Albums (2008), there were 17 tracks. The two Swedish versions are included on their original albums, reducing this to 15. She’s My Kind of Girl would need to be added, and they could also include Åh Vilka Tider, Dream World, Put on Your White Sombrero and I Am The City. This would give 20 tracks, 10 on each of the discs. Rather than generic artwork for these two discs, they could adapt that of, say, Greatest Hits Vol 2 and The Singles. The album titles would be different but would use the same fonts and artwork style (and wouldn’t be gatefold). Adding two vinyl records would, of course, increase the price but would at least mean that all of ABBA’s individual songs would be included. The only two alternate versions would be Ring Ring and Waterloo, but that’s only because they historically appeared on Swedish editions of their albums. I always thought they’d replace the 2001 CD issues with the CD versions from the deluxe editions (so omitting the DVDs). I’d have removed the non-ABBA tracks from Ring Ring though. However, with the music industry’s emphasis on vinyl now, I can’t see them bothering with reissuing CDs again.
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Post by gazman on Jun 5, 2020 21:01:13 GMT
The deluxe editions were great. Am I right in thinking it's not possible to purchase them these days? They are quite hard to find now, some of them. I think 2014's 'Waterloo' Deluxe Edition is still for sale on Amazon UK. The others are getting rarer in 'mint' form. One friend who wanted 'Ring Ring' Deluxe Edition recently told me he managed to get a Japanese copy - although quite expensive. The Fan Club shop in the Netherlands might have one or two, but I have not checked recently. I would think some fans might be grateful if certain albums were re-issued in this format.
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Post by justabba on Jun 6, 2020 7:50:08 GMT
The deluxe editions were great. Am I right in thinking it's not possible to purchase them these days? They are quite hard to find now, some of them. I think 2014's 'Waterloo' Deluxe Edition is still for sale on Amazon UK. The others are getting rarer in 'mint' form. One friend who wanted 'Ring Ring' Deluxe Edition recently told me he managed to get a Japanese copy - although quite expensive. The Fan Club shop in the Netherlands might have one or two, but I have not checked recently. I would think some fans might be grateful if certain albums were re-issued in this format. Mine are very precious to me and kept securely in a strong box!!
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Post by Alan on Jun 8, 2020 16:08:46 GMT
Amazon in the UK has finally come down to £129.99, so I’ve pre-ordered. It had been about £145 on there up until now.
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Jun 19, 2020 9:29:10 GMT
The boxset has been delayed till 24th July. Can’t blame them, it happens all the time.
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Post by Alan on Jun 19, 2020 12:12:39 GMT
The boxset has been delayed till 24th July. Can’t blame them, it happens all the time. Amazon hasn’t been updated with that information, but I imagine it will be. Slightly disappointing, but I suppose that at present, these things can’t be helped.
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Post by Alan on Jul 16, 2020 21:42:16 GMT
According to Zavvi’s website, the release date of this is now 14 August.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 9:50:33 GMT
Although I'm not buying the Coloured Vinyl Set, I tried to find it on Amazon UK today. It was there several Weeks ago, (£129.99), but it seems to have 'vanished' now. Unless, I'm not looking at the right part of the Site? If it has been removed, what happens to the Fans, who've Ordered it? Amazon don't take your cash, until the Item is actually released. If Amazon UK have decided not to sell it, I guess that, anyone, who's Ordered it, will get an Email, from Amazon UK...
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Post by gamleman on Jul 17, 2020 10:09:50 GMT
It is there but shown as "Currently unavailable. We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock". I imagine this means they have pre-sold all of their allocated stock. I'm sure those who have pre-ordered it will get it.
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Post by gazman on Jul 17, 2020 20:02:09 GMT
store.udiscovermusic.com/search.html?term=abbaThe UDiscover store has sold out of their allocation. Since they are the official store for the label, I think, it is a fair bet to assume that this limited release has sold out now - unless a few various online shops have a few sets left.
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Post by Alan on Jul 17, 2020 21:01:34 GMT
Zavvi still has it. I’ve just ordered it from there. £1.99 postal charge but other than that, the same price as Amazon had it. Rather stupidly, I had ordered it from Amazon but cancelled it as my payday is 27th and it was meant to be released on 24th, so I couldn’t risk going overdrawn. In the end it was delayed again and Amazon went out of stock. I had a dividend from shares paid today, so I would have been OK anyway. Oh well!
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