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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 18:18:09 GMT
I had my suspicions all along. Sorry I spelt your new name incorrectly, Can we call a truce ?
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Post by chron on Mar 24, 2021 18:41:25 GMT
Sure! (Actually, I think there's hardly anything to call a truce over). I'm aware I come over as a bit brusque sometimes, Edmund, but I respect your views, and those of everyone else here, even if they don't always chime with my own, you can be certain of that. Also, I liked your misspelling, as I said!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 18:48:02 GMT
At the end of the day we all have different ideas and opinions which make discussions and debates all the more interesting.
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Post by foreverfan on Mar 25, 2021 10:01:12 GMT
For my pennies worth !!
As its a mute subject as it never happened and unlikely, its down to a preference of voices. Its a tough one to answer really, as we are all so used to hearing the current formats.
Can i imagine Frida singing TWTIA, if i knew no different !! A good observation which may have worked mentioned by someone is One Man One Woman, a male voice may have added more to that track. BTW a very underrated track seldom heard, out side of us fans...
As TWTIA is under scrutiny, I find the overbearing drum ? beat annoying, its a great song, probably still in my top 10, but no longer top 5. Its all down to personal preferences, and tastes change over time.
So in my opinion.. leave them all as is, down to original conception....
PS.. Its good to have different opinions and shouldn't be taken personally.. there are plenty of ABBA tracks i don't like or listen to anymore, it doesn't mean i don't like them any the less..
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Post by richard on Mar 25, 2021 11:34:11 GMT
I like chronington's idea of shared vocals between Frida and Benny on One Man, One Women. Some fantastic, intricate, multi-layered vocal harmonies on many of their recordings, but that kind of interplay between their various individual voices was not much a part of their thinking, it seems. The Name Of The Game is an obvious exception.
And regarding Michal's point about Frida getting songs of the strong woman who faces up to things and overcomes, and Agnetha portraying anguished vulnerability with her leads: surely, no capable, versatile, self-respecting singer would take kindly to such pigeon-holing. And what about the possibilities that might have been lost in the process?
So were the guys sometimes insensitive to that? Perhaps it was a kind of benign dictatorship, understood and sometimes reluctantly accepted by the girls. A 'this is what we think works best, so we'll go with that, thanks" attitude from guys? Maybe some even think it had to be like that for ABBA to function at all?
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Post by chron on Mar 26, 2021 16:41:36 GMT
Nice of you not to dismiss the duet idea out of hand, although it probably deserves to be! The male/female pop duet is a hard one to get right. I can't offhand think of many examples that don't make for a somewhat uncomfortable listen, in some way. Take one that Frida eventually recorded, the version of Here We'll Stay done with Phil Collins. In working to point up the supposed chemistry between the two of them, they succeed only in establishing that hardly any exists. That would be a general problem with this type of duet: recordings predicated on some notion of rapport existing between two singers that isn't there in reality, making the 'connection' come off as forced. The thing that makes me think a Frida/Benny effort on One Man, One Woman might've fared better than most is the fact that they were a real couple; the male/female pop duets that most convince have been done by people either in a relationship, or with a shared past history (e.g. Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin, Richard and Linda Thompson, John and Beverley Martyn). Despite not sharing lead vox on it, I think I'm right in saying that Benny made a substantial vocal contribution to OMOW nevertheless - orchestrating the vocal harmonies, and laying one or more of those down himself (expressly a falsetto one).
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Post by Michal on Mar 27, 2021 21:22:32 GMT
I consider Agnetha's version to be the ultimate one. So I'm with Alan . If you listen carefully, you can almost hear her voice break on certain lines ("and I understand you've come to shake my hand") and it makes one believe her what she's singing - but I understand these over-emotional moments actually irritate you :-) - each to their own. ...that bit you've highlighted is, for me, a pure instance of emoting (viz. acting)... Well, she admitted singing the song was like acting a part. So it's obvious she's acting and it was intentional, no doubt about it. But in my opinion she's doing it very well and probably because it was partly a personal song for her. However you consider it overacting, if I understand it right  I was 'orf' (chosen because it incorporated some name initials, plus it also evoked the Austrian media network of the same acronym) but I ended up thinking it made me sound like a woodland sprite or something. Edit: I opted not to re-introduce myself, because I thought my animosity towards The Winner Takes It All might act as a calling-card :-) I thought it was you  Actually I've almost written something like "Where's orf? He surely has something to say about The Winner Takes It All  But then I realized that it must be you. You even had a similar profile picture before or am I wrong? |
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Actually I've almost written something like "Where's orf? He surely has something to say about The Winner Takes It All 
But then I realized that it must be you. You even had a similar profile picture before or am I wrong?