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Post by Alan on May 14, 2022 17:18:57 GMT
I like the UK entry. I think it's their best entry in a long time. Hopefully it'll restore you to the left-hand side of the leaderboard. Really? I hope so, though I don’t share your optimism! Usually I’m shouting at the TV calling for the BBC to withdraw from the Contest (not the EBU - though I’m not sure what else it does these days apart from this). I don’t think it’s much to do with Brexit, it was happening long before then. In any case, the UK is still in the EBU, UN, NATO etc so it’s not like we’ve abandoned Europe or the world. Maybe the rest of the EBU countries get fed up of British acts dominating music and like to give others a chance in this. So it’s Adele’s and Ed Sheeran’s fault currently!! |
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Post by HOMETIME on May 14, 2022 17:27:21 GMT
Nah, I don't think Brexit has anything to do with it either. I generally don't buy the whole political bias idea: it's more like shared culture. People vote for songs they're been hearing on the radio, appearing on their local charts, in languages that they at least partially understand. Hence the Scandi/Baltic, Greek/Cypriot, Eastern bloc apparent voting "pacts"?
Personally, I think countries do better when they submit songs that would be hits at home naturally, rather than trying to engineer something for some imagined template. There'll always be novelty entries, but the ones with longevity seem to be genuinely good songs.
How have Adele and Ed been implicated? Do people imagine their success/overexposure turns everyone against the UK??
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Post by foreverfan on May 14, 2022 18:58:13 GMT
For many reasons, I feel it’s going to be Ukraine’s night... it’s not bad but in any other year it probably would not win...
Top 5 ? Sweden, UK, Spain Italy.....
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Post by Alan on May 14, 2022 19:21:27 GMT
How have Adele and Ed been implicated? Do people imagine their success/overexposure turns everyone against the UK?? It was just a wild theory I was putting out there! Another one might be that the UK (and the others in the “big five”) don’t have to go through the semi-finals. I’m not saying there’s much resentment from other countries on that one - if the big five are the biggest contributors to the EBU budget, they should get something back for that - but these countries’ acts lose out from not performing in a competition setting in front of an audience until the final. Plus, if the UK got through a semi-final it would mean it wouldn’t seem quite as bad if they still came last in the final! At least they would have got through the first hurdle. And if we were ousted in the semis, at least we then wouldn’t risk the indignity of coming last in the final! Plenty of flawed logic there but then Eurovision voting isn’t anything else. I think at least one big five country has won it since the semi-finals were introduced, so it can be done, but might be that bit harder. |
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Post by Alan on May 14, 2022 19:28:11 GMT
Other multiple winners that haven't won for an even longer period include Ireland 1996 France 1977 Luxembourg 1973 Guessing that was a typo as Luxembourg won it in 1983, at the time the first country to score five wins. Not sure when they last competed but they don’t enter it anymore. Although generally forgettable, I remember the 1983 winning song well as my brother was into Eurovision and usually video’d the reprise of the winning song throughout the 1980s, and watched them back many times. Johnny Logan in 1987 was particularly memorable as he over-dramatised it by saying “thank God” somewhere in his reprise performance, and his voice broke at the end. He excused this by saying “I can’t sing anymore, thank you”. |
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Post by Alan on May 14, 2022 23:15:50 GMT
Blimey… I didn’t expect that! Finishing second at Eurovision was beginning to feel as impossible as Kate Bush performing live again, or ABBA releasing new songs (let alone a new album). Oh wait, they both happened.
Fair enough that the support for Ukraine is clear though. Happy to finish second to them.
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Post by richard on May 14, 2022 23:29:31 GMT
Jesting, but not expecting it either, I got 1 and 2 right. Pleased that this proves UK wasn't shut out for any 'political' reasons. Sentiment no doubt played a large part in Ukraine's win.
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