joseph, you don't need to worry at all. I think London is very easy to navigate through, despite the British habit of changing the street's name at every little bend Stratford is not an attractive place, but the ABBA Arena is not difficult to find. Go ahead, it's worth some effort!
Maybe it doesn't belong here but I listened to The Visitors album today and I realised that the title song has a completely new emotional impact on me now, since I saw the Voyage show. I couldn't help but imagine the avatars of Agnetha and Frida in their phoenix costumes performing it. It is such a great opening number and beautifully choreographed! I suddenly felt strong urge to see the show again, just for that one song. It even made me tentatively search for airplane tickets to London and I found one for less than €1 - sooo tempting
Michal, it's not so much the navigating my way around London that's the issue (after all, I've been many, many times) it's the crowds of people and feeling overwhelmed. As I've gotten older I'm less confident than I once was and social situations easily overwhelm me. No idea how I'll cope in the arena but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
But thanks for the encouragement! I'm sure I'll have a fantastic time when I eventually go.
You will surely have a fantastic time! I misunderstood, I thought you were talking about being afraid of getting lost or something. I don't like crowded places either but there were no crowds in London, except for the tube. Prague is much worse And it's not much of a problem even in the ABBA Arena. Even the dancefloor gives you enough space and there's no pushing. And if you choose a seat, you don't need to worry at all
I just saw about the Set List. Excluding the intro and outro, 20 songs - which we knew about. But four are videos. Plus I read somewhere Does Your Mother Know starts off with "Bjorn" but the band then takes over.
The two Rora or animee videos are a wasted opportunity IMO and are pretty dull. The Waterloo video suffers from poor quality because of its age but at least you can understand why it is there - though I'd have preferred an Abbatar version.
Yes there is a video for LAYLOM but it is absolutely fantastic. I won't spoil the surprise for those who have yet to see it.
It's a great concert and experience so go and see it if you can. I saw it on 2 June and go again in November.
Given the choice, I wonder if most ABBA fans would now prefer this Voyage show of techno-realised ABBA rather than filmed videos of the real ABBA in their heyday, even if they had done videos for The Visitors, Angeleyes, etc back in the day? (I appreciate that Angeleyes isn't in the Voyage show, but you get my drift).The vibe of being at the show with others must be a big plus.
You're right Johnny. 5 not 4 videos as I had suggested, but KMKY is a great video too in the show, though LAYLOM beats it for sheer drama. The videos for these two have to be seen to be believed. Awesome. Very far from the videos of the 70s and 80s.
In response to Richard's question, I'd much prefer the Abbatars to videos of the group in their heyday. The limitations and quality of the original material would not be a brilliant watch, even on a big screen. I'm happy enough watching these on DVD.
Do we run the risk of blinding ourselves to the woods by staring too hard at the trees? The videos for KMKY and LAYLOM are the only ones I've seen (courtesy of online leaks) and I thought they were sensational. Although I've yet to see the show, I have a feeling that the videos ramp up the immersive feel of the show. It looks like the giant images almost surround the audience. And even if they are "videos," the lip-synchs were still performed by ABBA. Given that they are sharply shot performances of the songs, I suppose it might be possible to replace these videos with performances in due course - with a couple of different songs recreated as videos for variety? Just me speculating after too much coffee. I just hope they'll have engineered enough new performances - including VV and Eagle - to replace those forest creature videos.
I absolutely understand the appetite for a show consisting entirely of "live" performances. But if such a show were to be a true reflection of ABBA's onstage performances of the past, it could become a more difficult show to sell. ABBA weren't exactly known for the laser-precise choreography and pyrotechnics that characterise so many modern concerts. Audiences now expect so much more from live shows than we got back in the olden times of yore. And if Voyage was a series of heavily choreographed performances, I think it'd feel much less like an ABBA experience. I recently watched the DVD of the 1979 concerts: I have to say that I'd hate that show to have been xeroxed with fancy new clothes.
Something tells me that the boffins continue to tinker with the show. Maybe they'll find a way of meshing the video effects with onstage performances for all of the songs. That might leave the original videos available for release on DVD....?
So only 15 Abbatars performances that seems a bit disappointing. I understand they did over 20 - or does that include videos.
I am pretty sure almost everyone would want to see Abbatars than videos - that's the point of the show and justification for the ticket prices.
LAYLOM and KMKY are not Abbatar performances 'on stage' but they are not what you would call videos either - particularly so LAYLOM. Having seen the concert I feel I got full value out of 17 songs. Only the 2 animee videos passed me by for Eagle and VV. As I previously said I can understand why the Waterloo video was used, but it did look a hundred years old compared with the rest of the show, animees included.
My advice to those who have yet to see it is to stop watching YouTube clips as these will spoil your enjoyment a bit. I regretted watching them before I saw the show in June and am not watching any more till after I see it again in November.
With the specially built wraparound screens I would not call them videos myself. Also the 2 giant screens either side of the stage give the illusion that Abba are in the room, so to speak. Probably haven't explained it too well, but the less you know about it before seeing the show, the more you will enjoy it!!
From someone who has seen the show and is going again, KMKY AND LAYLOM are done so incredibly well so for anyone going to a future show do not be put off by this. As for VV it would be better with the abbatars unless that's something that will be changed/altered in the coming months. There was an earlier post about the way abbatar technology is used in the show so hence why the videos were needed.
As far as I understand,the Video sequences are needed to give the technical Equipment which produces the ABBAtars breaks against overheating - it is not the Lack of ABBAtar Material because as Ludvig stated, there is more ABBAtar Material available.
I also found the KMKY Video and LAYLOM stunning and it adds to the realism of the Show because zhe Videos bridge the time in which the ABBAtare change clothes.
The Manga Videos did not much for me, rdpecially because I thought that the songs didn't fit the storytelling or vice versa. However they provide a well placed climax to relax a bit because otherwise you dance your ass off in this show.
Interestingly, the Waterloo videocollage did strike a chord with the audience - they really went berserk during this sequence...
The LAYLOM Video is a piece of Art in it's own right and with the light Design a more imersive experience than just a static Projection on a screen, especially the change to the next Song with the ABBAtars on stage is mind boggling.
I was especially thrilled that the kinetic lighting and light objects actually were designed by two of my best loved light artists from Berlin. I saw their spectacular "Deep Web" kinetic performance.
Therefore ABBA Voyage is the biggest kinetic Art object of the World in it's own right!
If anyone comes to visit Berlin, I highly recommend to visit their actual project "Dark Matter"
Though I thought it was a disappointment compared to the Abbatars, I did think the animee story worked for Eagle as it is such a majestic song.
The Waterloo video worked as the audience was just so immersed in the show and its storytelling. It was quite an emotional moment in the concert...but I still would have preferred to see a new Abbatar performance of the song. Greedy and insensitive I know if the poor Abbatars were backstage in fridges due to overheating.
Actually it is interesting to know the technology behind the Abbatars. You can get carried away that it's just so unbelievably fantastic that you forget the limitations of the technology. When I say limitations I of course mean I wanted 20 Abbatar performances!
I agree the "videos" included in the show are sensational and work very well. And the transition from LAYLOM and Summer Night City is a jaw-dropping moment. Waterloo would be better performed by the Avatars but it is probably meant as a nostalgia piece and doesn't spoil the show at all. The only moments I would change are the animations. They probably wanted to include a piece of art in the show and maybe give the audience time to relax a bit but it's a wasted time that could be used so much better.
As I have seen the show on the opening night I am so looking forward in where this show can go. The Avatars can be used in so many different ways in the months and years to come. I am holding out on seeing the show again until different songs are added. But looking forward to it all.
Good ticket sales. It looks like the majority of that 650,000 were in the aftermath of the announcement way back last year. Since the end of May, more steady week by week sales. The show seems to be sold out for two months ahead at any given date.
It's a pity this hasn't led to an increase in sales for the Voyage album. But I guess it's expected as there are only two songs in the show and its the Big Hits peoole want.