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Post by foreverfan on Jan 10, 2023 17:03:15 GMT
Like a lot of us on here, I’d love to see TACOM, if I’m honest at the expense of TYFTM.... ideally though I’d like to see the whole show extended by a couple of tracks, that’s looking unlikely. I believe the opening is absolutely perfect with The Visitors, and at a guess general public not overly aware of the track but it works so well and so emotional, so shows it doesn’t have to be a single to be included ( UK based.). I’m not sure if Joesph will give a review once he’s been, but it’d be good to hear his and others who have not been yet but have listened to us, their views after the show being one year old, and would he / they change any track, the trouble is most tracks are so iconic we/ general public would expect the vast majority that are already in the show....
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Post by joseph on Jan 10, 2023 20:43:08 GMT
I will post my thoughts after I've been to see Voyage, Graham. I'll be careful not to give too much away and spoil it for anyone who has yet to see it. Not that all the info isn't already out there. The person whose thoughts on the show I'm most looking forward to is HOMETIME. He's so eloquent and expresses the things I feel but often can't adequately express.
I dearly would like to have Take A Chance On Me in Voyage. When I Kissed The Teacher would be a dream come true. Does Your Mother Know needs to be given the boot, the sooner the better. I've not even been to see Voyage yet and already I feel pissed off that it's included over tracks like Super Trouper and Angeleyes. Thank You For The Music can also go. I'd rather hear Under Attack than that. I go against the grain with a lot of fans in that I don't follow the narrative that songs like Head Over Heels were no good. On the contrary, I think it's an inventive and great pop song. It was the death knell for ABBA though. The writing was already on the wall. I blame the poodle perms for ABBA's demise and the fact Frida looked like she'd been crying for a year. The public weren't ready to accept ABBA sounding AND looking as sad as they did by the time One Of Us came around (in itself an absolute cracker of a song). ABBA might not have gone out with a bang but those last few singles were still great quality and The Visitors was a corker of a swansong at the time.
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Post by evilincarnate on Jan 11, 2023 2:11:20 GMT
I will post my thoughts after I've been to see Voyage, Graham. I'll be careful not to give too much away and spoil it for anyone who has yet to see it. Not that all the info isn't already out there. The person whose thoughts on the show I'm most looking forward to is HOMETIME. He's so eloquent and expresses the things I feel but often can't adequately express. I dearly would like to have Take A Chance On Me in Voyage. When I Kissed The Teacher would be a dream come true. Does Your Mother Know needs to be given the boot, the sooner the better. I've not even been to see Voyage yet and already I feel pissed off that it's included over tracks like Super Trouper and Angeleyes. Thank You For The Music can also go. I'd rather hear Under Attack than that. I go against the grain with a lot of fans in that I don't follow the narrative that songs like Head Over Heels were no good. On the contrary, I think it's an inventive and great pop song. It was the death knell for ABBA though. The writing was already on the wall. I blame the poodle perms for ABBA's demise and the fact Frida looked like she'd been crying for a year. The public weren't ready to accept ABBA sounding AND looking as sad as they did by the time One Of Us came around (in itself an absolute cracker of a song). ABBA might not have gone out with a bang but those last few singles were still great quality and The Visitors was a corker of a swansong at the time. Excellent post Joseph! Most entertaining.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2023 10:29:17 GMT
Could someone let me know the reaction from the audience to The Visitors and Hole In Your Soul? Quite bold to start the show on lesser known songs!
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Post by bennybjorn on Jan 11, 2023 11:02:01 GMT
Like a lot of us on here, I’d love to see TACOM, if I’m honest at the expense of TYFTM.... ideally though I’d like to see the whole show extended by a couple of tracks, that’s looking unlikely. I believe the opening is absolutely perfect with The Visitors, and at a guess general public not overly aware of the track but it works so well and so emotional, so shows it doesn’t have to be a single to be included ( UK based.). I’m not sure if Joesph will give a review once he’s been, but it’d be good to hear his and others who have not been yet but have listened to us, their views after the show being one year old, and would he / they change any track, the trouble is most tracks are so iconic we/ general public would expect the vast majority that are already in the show.... I'd love to see TACOM too. Equally, I wish they would add MO and maybe even S.
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Post by foreverfan on Jan 11, 2023 12:37:18 GMT
Alib, regarding the opening two tracks, personally I feel they are perfect, in all honesty they could’ve played I Saw It In The Mirror followed by Watch Out and the crowd would’ve gone wild...lol The expectation and the hype is so high, you can’t help but get sucked in straight away, the fact that they are two relatively more unknown tracks to the general public makes no difference.
If I had to change anything, I personally would have ended with Dancing Queen....
It’s a fantastic show, and would love to go again once a new track is added... hoping it’s TACOM.....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2023 13:04:59 GMT
Thank you for your feedback foreverfan! I thought DQ would have been the closing song too and was surprised TACOM was omitted. As you say, they may add it sometime in the future! hope to go and see it this year!
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Post by joseph on Jan 11, 2023 18:08:17 GMT
Aww, thanks evilincarnate. 😊
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Post by lamont on Jan 12, 2023 19:48:25 GMT
I wrote this before on this site, gona write it again. My nephew got a meta quest console for his Christmas, I’ve tried it out and it’s amazing! I know Ludwig stated that there wouldn’t be a dvd of the show, but this Virtual Reality technology is screaming out for the ABBA show, it would be phenomenal.
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Post by Tinneke on Jan 25, 2023 21:03:29 GMT
Like one of the producers said. They have recorded more songs, 4 I believe for the show but it is very expensive to add them and change the show. They have to make a lot of money to get even so I don't think any changes will come soon. And that's what she said too :-)
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Post by Alan on Jan 25, 2023 23:10:26 GMT
I’d like to think those four will make it into the show, even if it’s just one a year. There’s a fan club-only night at the arena in May, perhaps that will be when a new performance is added?
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Post by wayne on Jan 26, 2023 9:03:15 GMT
Can't wait until 27th May...got my suit for the evening organised and my apparel for the next day's show(s) organised too...
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Post by ed on Feb 28, 2023 14:24:54 GMT
I haven't seen the Voyage concert yet and am increasingly fed up with comments regarding changing the song setlist. It Is a fantastic set list and quite a few songs have never been performed live. It is very selfish and inconsiderate for other fans " to bang on " about changes to the setlist when folks like myself haven't seen the show yet. There is absolutely no need to change the setlist and foolishly omit songs never performed in an ABBA concert before because of somebody's ridiculous whim !
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Post by lamont on Feb 28, 2023 17:41:18 GMT
I haven't seen the Voyage concert yet and am increasingly fed up with comments regarding changing the song setlist. It Is a fantastic set list and quite a few songs have never been performed live. It is very selfish and inconsiderate for other fans " to bang on " about changes to the setlist when folks like myself haven't seen the show yet. There is absolutely no need to change the setlist and foolishly omit songs never performed in an ABBA concert before because of somebody's ridiculous whim ! Are you going to manage to see it?
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Post by HOMETIME on Feb 28, 2023 20:19:53 GMT
I haven't seen the Voyage concert yet and am increasingly fed up with comments regarding changing the song setlist. It Is a fantastic set list and quite a few songs have never been performed live. It is very selfish and inconsiderate for other fans " to bang on " about changes to the setlist when folks like myself haven't seen the show yet. There is absolutely no need to change the setlist and foolishly omit songs never performed in an ABBA concert before because of somebody's ridiculous whim ! Hi Eddie (presuming you are who I think you are!). Good to see you back. Signing in as a guest is a smart idea: much handier to come and go as you please; and no need to delete an account if you're unhappy with things. I haven't seen the show yet myself. I'll be gutted is any setlist changes remove either The Visitors or When All Is Said And Done from the set. It's not as though the Voyage team will pay a blind bit of attention to the handful of commentators on here. So the chat is just chat. I don't think it's unreasonable for anyone to daydream or speculate on what changes might be made. Especially if they've already seen the show and would like something new if they pay to go again. Talking about it here is highly unlikely to make it happen. I hope you get to go soon and have a blast.
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Post by joseph on Feb 28, 2023 23:16:40 GMT
Imagine getting your knickers in a twist about something that hasn't even happened yet.
I very much doubt The Visitors will be removed. I just can't see that happening. I can definitely picture Take A Chance On Me being included. In fact, I'm surprised it wasn't from the beginning. Personally, I'd remove Does Your Mother Know and Thank You For The Music. I am at a loss as to any others. If anything, I wish there were more and that it would be just a little bit longer. I've yet to go (not that long now) but I'm sure I'll love it no matter what. I may have a wish list but I won't be whinging about it. Well, maybe the cost. I can't recall who said what but I stand firmly by what I said a while ago and what was that rubbish about it being the price of a cinema ticket? Nonsense. No one suggested any such thing. Besides, making their money back or not, the people involved are hardly likely to be on the breadline, give me a break. They'll make a profit, don't you worry your heads about that.
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Post by HOMETIME on Mar 1, 2023 8:47:20 GMT
It's been pleasantly surprising to see how often The Visitors gets the thumbs-up in reviews of the show.
I'd be with you on removing DYMK and TYFTM. The former, because ABBA (or their 'tars) should commit to the song or not include it at all. The latter because it's never been a fave of mine. Just personal opinions and I know either/both are beloved by many others. It'd be brilliant if they switched out the dream-sequence videos for performances, and likewise the Eurovision footage. But I gather the amount of work and money required makes it too difficult for now. On that basis alone, Ed can probably relax for a while longer.
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Post by AdamDawson2003 on Mar 1, 2023 16:53:33 GMT
'Under Attack' is one of ABBA's best and most underrated songs would be wonderful to see it included in the Voyage show.
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Post by gazman on Mar 1, 2023 20:37:55 GMT
Could someone let me know the reaction from the audience to The Visitors and Hole In Your Soul? Quite bold to start the show on lesser known songs! I would say 'good' to 'very good' for both - but let me put that in some kind of context for someone who has not seen the show yet. The vast majority of the crowd, on any given day, are likely to be people who have heard/bought/appreciated the ABBA GOLD tracks and/or the MM! film ones. A large proportion are unlikely to know these 2 songs before they go to ABBA Voyage, therefore. When the show starts, they don't know exactly what to expect. The opening music starts, they don't know what it is and likely don't associate it with ABBA. Without trying to give too much away, there is a major sound and visual change. There's a bit of sensory overload, they are mainly still hearing something they don't know and something is starting to happen on stage - they're concentrating mainly on the visuals at this point. It doesn't matter that they might not know the first ABBA song when their eyes are being treated in this way. The 2nd song (in my view) heightens the sound and the visuals even more - and the 'show feel' zooms up a few more notches. You're at a pop/rock concert and you're having a good time. You're at an ABBA concert and they are in their prime. In short - the attendee may not have heard the first 2 songs before, but it doesn't matter.
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Post by gazman on Mar 1, 2023 20:52:34 GMT
I haven't seen the Voyage concert yet and am increasingly fed up with comments regarding changing the song setlist. It Is a fantastic set list and quite a few songs have never been performed live. It is very selfish and inconsiderate for other fans " to bang on " about changes to the setlist when folks like myself haven't seen the show yet. There is absolutely no need to change the setlist and foolishly omit songs never performed in an ABBA concert before because of somebody's ridiculous whim ! Ed - I don't think it is selfish, really. The producers themselves have said the setlist might be up for inclusion of new songs at some point - we just don't know when. It is only natural for people to debate which songs they might think/hope would be there. ABBA Voyage will want to encourage repeat attendances - and one way to do that is to make small tweaks on a setlist. Any 'standard' artist would also do this - and ABBA did as well, in their hey-day - reference, for instance, 'One Man, One Woman' being dropped after the first 1979 North American date and 'Waterloo' being added to the setlist at some point later in the tour.... Naturally I don't know your circumstances - but I do hope you get to see the show, if you can, as soon as possible :-)
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Post by mjc on Mar 1, 2023 21:01:15 GMT
I was thinking that maybe Abba members would indeed like to include 'Under Attack' given what Bjorn said at this concert :
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2023 12:08:35 GMT
Ed, I think you're being silly if you are getting annoyed with people talking about changing set lists.
There are lots of these speculative "what if" posts and threads. All harmless fun.
There's a finite number of songs for a show (or compilation album) so what do you include and what do you exclude?
If you want some lesser known songs, which ones? ABBA had loads of big hits and if only 20 songs in the show and some of them not well known, then some famous songs will be missing - as they are.
We know ABBA have done 22 or so Abbatars. So a change to set list is probable. Does the 22 or 23 ABBAtars songs include videos or straight ABBAtars petformances? Anyone know?
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Post by Michel on Mar 3, 2023 11:21:35 GMT
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Post by Ed on Mar 3, 2023 13:29:56 GMT
Johnny, OK I maybe silly. I just don't want to be disappointed when I see the show. I personally think the current set list is great. As I suffer from anxiety I don't want any of the well loved and popular ABBA songs to be pulled from the set list. I understand ABBA " cherry picked " the songs themselves. According to setlist FM I noticed " Angeleyes " was added to the show last July. I was quite surprised. What concerned me was an error made by setlist FM regarding a recent concert song setlist ( 25 or 26 February 2023 where " Thank You For The Music " is performed twice. That is why " I got my knackers in a twist " to quote Joseph. Please can someone put me out of my misery and confirm the current setlist is unchanged and this a blatant mistake.
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Post by HOMETIME on Mar 3, 2023 17:55:49 GMT
Ed, I really don't think that Setlist FM can be relied on here. There have been no changes to the setlist, and that means that Angeleyes is not included.
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Post by Ed on Mar 3, 2023 18:18:33 GMT
Thanks Tony. Agree with you they cannot be relied upon. They shouldn't be allowed to print misleading or inaccurate information. Unfortunately I can't change who I am. I have always had a sensitive nature and criticism can easily offend me and it's all well and good for others to say this forum is not for me. I am not prepared to cower away because of some disparaging remark. I want to fight for my own beliefs and thoughts. We are all human and allowed to express our own views and opinions. I do appreciate your input. I hope I enjoy the show when I see it.
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Post by BAAB on Mar 4, 2023 7:47:23 GMT
Johnny, OK I maybe silly. I just don't want to be disappointed when I see the show. I personally think the current set list is great. As I suffer from anxiety I don't want any of the well loved and popular ABBA songs to be pulled from the set list. I agree with you, it is a fine set list as it is right now. I also don't get why it is speculated so much that the list could be changed soon because the people that produce the Show have repeatedly stated that sometime in the future they could change some parts because ABBA have recorded more songs than presented in the Show. However, it was also confiremed that currently there is no further ABBAtar material available, so every change, even for 1 song would require a lot of production time and costs of severall million Dollar. They say that it will take 3 years to break even, so it is very very unlikely that the Show will have any changes before that time point! However, also a period of 3 years will come to an end at some timepoint- actually 1 year is nearly over. So one needs to make a decision to see the Show in its initual set up within the next two years, I guess. No one can guarantee you that you will like the Show as everyone has it's personal taste. Maybe in the end it is not the set list but the lighting which could anoy you? But one of the best things of the Show is that it is a complete new production which holds so much new and exciting to see for you because at an early point in the Show you believe that it's really ABBA performing! And when that feeling kicks in, they could sing the phone book of Manchester, you wouldn't care because this Show is so well produced on so many levels! My man is not an ABBA Fan at all but he accompanied me to the concert and he was absolutely amazed and enjoyed the Show very much. The only thing you should care about is not to take the seats too far left or right at the edges because it could Limit the 3 D Illusion a little...
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Post by BAAB on Mar 4, 2023 7:57:43 GMT
Oh, the "Break Even" point: I believe they will reach it sooner because the 3 years are calculated with 80% average capacity which is a calculation they perform on Westend Shows but the average capacity of ABBA Voyage is 95 to 98 % !!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2023 8:21:02 GMT
Unfortunately I can't change who I am. I have always had a sensitive nature and criticism can easily offend me and it's all well and good for others to say this forum is not for me. I am not prepared to cower away because of some disparaging remark. I want to fight for my own beliefs.. You know Ed, you can change or rather could, if you got help and really put in the groundwork yourself. Anxiety is common and can be relieved by evaluating and ultimately dismissing your negative thoughts. Anxiety, like depression can be normal reactions to real, serious events. But on here your anxiety is just about trivia - which can be overcome. Put that defiance about not leaving (and nobody has asked you to), into fighting your anxiety. If you ever seek help from a mental health practioner, yes they will listen. But they will also prescribe a course of action - which you will have to follow. Just complaining or saying "well, that's how I am" simply won't cut it. Btw, if you don't want favourite songs of yours dropped from the show, go and see it and soon. None of us know when there will be tweaks to the show. It could be next month, next year or the year after. "And now you see another me, I have been reloaded". No, we haven't. But could - if you get help and help yourself. No mental health practioner would permit you to drone on and on without making any effort or progress. Harsh but true.
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Post by richard on Mar 4, 2023 10:28:55 GMT
I urge you to take on board Johnny's admirable and straightforward post, Ed.
This forum is essentially a bit of pleasant pastime discussion of ABBA and their music - but one that is preferably free of total sycophancy. There is no need to get upset about anyone's differing opinion to your own about this or that ABBA track. Even you have said more than once that we have our different views. But you've also left more than once - seemingly because you've regarded as a personal slight someone's mildly differing view about an ABBA song. No forum can work for you if you can't rid yourself of such an attitude.
So stay this time and enjoy the discussions!
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