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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 11:13:37 GMT
No, it's not 3 quarter, but 4 quarter, so, now I realise that it cannot be I still have faith in you.... But still: it sounds Benny.
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Post by HOMETIME on May 17, 2020 11:15:16 GMT
I played the video clip again this morning to give the music more attention. The Shazam app returned "no result." As others have said, it sounds very much like Benny's playing. I think the tune may be in 3/4 time. It's certainly very pretty. If this is ISHFIY, we can probably brace ourselves for a summer of YouTube clips of the section on a loop, with claims of access to leaked backing tracks, despite Bjorn's monologue mixed way in the back. If this is ISHFIY, then ABBA needs to get the finger out and bring the finished product to our earholes ASAP.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 11:21:27 GMT
I play piano myself, it's 4 quarter. 1 2 3 4 - 1 2 3 4 etc.
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Post by HOMETIME on May 17, 2020 11:43:16 GMT
Always good to have an expert clarification. 👍
So could the piece be one of the other songs that have been rumoured to exist? Do we face the prospect of a whole new set of rumours, a new "holy grail" to add to the wishlist?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2020 12:32:23 GMT
Justabba, welcome to the forum and enlightening us with this interesting snippet of information. I will watch Bjorn's message and evaluate.
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Post by gazman on May 17, 2020 13:24:58 GMT
Whatever the music is (and perhaps we will find out soon), I thought it was quite charming.
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Post by justabba on May 17, 2020 16:17:42 GMT
I play piano myself, it's 4 quarter. 1 2 3 4 - 1 2 3 4 etc. [b My understanding is I still have faith in you is actually in 6/8, which isn't quite the same feel as 3/4
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Post by gazman on May 17, 2020 18:44:27 GMT
I play piano myself, it's 4 quarter. 1 2 3 4 - 1 2 3 4 etc. [b My understanding is I still have faith in you is actually in 6/8, which isn't quite the same feel as 3/4 Oh yes, you are quite right - my mistake, sorry. 6/8 rather than 3/4 is what Benny said...
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Post by justabba on May 18, 2020 10:32:02 GMT
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Post by gazman on May 18, 2020 10:56:23 GMT
Another pointless article by the Daily Fail, desperate to find something to talk about. Thank goodness I don't buy tabloids any more.
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Post by justabba on May 18, 2020 11:46:08 GMT
Another pointless article by the Daily Fail, desperate to find something to talk about. Thank goodness I don't buy tabloids any more. Not bought a paper in many years. It just happened to pop up in my Google feed.
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Post by HOMETIME on May 18, 2020 11:52:28 GMT
Prime example of a "journalist" who fails to do any thinking. As ABBA do not live together - they don't even live in the same country, FFS! - how does he expect them to appear together in the midst of a pandemic when people their age are cocooning? The Daily Fail is useful as a litter tray liner and little else.
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Post by Alan on May 18, 2020 16:43:03 GMT
I was expecting a full article about ABBA after reading comments here, but all there is a tongue-in-cheek reference: “Bjorn from Abba left a recorded message by himself, which was faintly disheartening: if the foursome won't get back together to fight the virus, there really isn't any hope of a full-scale reunion, is there?”
The journalist never implied that they had to be physically together did they? We were all, after all, expecting more than we got from Björn, so that little jokey paragraph reflects what we all thought!
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 17:19:22 GMT
The newspapers always print fiction rather than fact. One day we will hear the new songs. A photograph of ABBA in the recording studio is proof enough.
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Post by justabba on May 18, 2020 18:50:00 GMT
I had a friend in new Zealand work the Track from Saturday so the melody is stronger and Bjorn is suppressed. Whether it's the new single or no, the tune is very beautiful.
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Post by josef on May 18, 2020 19:10:30 GMT
Well, it's the elephant in the room, isn't it? No one else will say it so I will. Great as it was to see Björn, it's Agnetha and Frida the world would like to see the most. THAT would give the biggest buzz and thrill. Of course ALL FOUR would be ideal (in four little boxes, like in the video for Take A Chance On Me) and it could have been arranged in these days of technical wizardry but fair enough, it didn't happen and they will have their reasons. It all adds to the mystique, frustrating as it is for us fans. To give Björn his due, at least he does these things so kudos to him.
Regarding that backing music. ...hmmm..it sounded pretty and faintly melancholic and I could actually hear the lyrics in my mind as I listened to it. Seriously. I daren't hope that we may have just been given a little teaser but it's not beyond the realms of possibility, is it? As for when we'll get the new songs. ..if there's a whole album....speculate speculate. ...who bloody knows? I'll believe it's actually happened when I have the damn things on repeat on my phone with my ears hooked up to my brilliant headphones.
Just a little while longer...I hope!
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 22:46:21 GMT
WE HOPE, INDEED, JOSEF ! I viewed Bjorn's message and agree that the music in the background was very beautiful and melancholy. That is part of ABBA's appeal, that Nordic melancholy so prominent in their songs. Watch this space, the plot thickens.
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Post by jj on May 20, 2020 9:55:40 GMT
With the new songs, I do hope they consult native English speakers about proper pronunciation of every single word. Not that it's so very, terribly, extremely important to me or most people. But I do find it slightly awkward and suddenly "cute" and smile-inducing whenever I hear "But who the hell am I, if I don't even try? I'm not a corr-werd" (I Wonder), "No more tchampagne" (Happy New Year), "Deep inside, both of us can feel the autumn shill" (When All is Said and Done), "tiny yewelled caskets" (Agnetha in "If I Thought You'd Ever Change Your Mind"), and a few other cute/endearing (but in reality, a bit distracting and slightly wince-inducing) moments scattered thoughout the ABBA song catalogue.
You'd be forgiven to expect ABBA would be extremely careful to get every single word pronounced exactly right, especially after, say, 1975, and especially given what perfectionists Bjorn and Benny became and the attention they devoted to every tiny detail of production, mixing and musical arrangement. And yet still, despite their extremely strict quality control, they somehow managed to overlook, or not check for, small but very noticeable mistakes in their English pronunciation, and these few mistakes have been quite glaring. They're not terrible crimes. Those songs don't fail or fall apart when these little clangers happen, but clangers they are, and they are slightly jarring nonetheless whenever they're heard. They make you figuratively sit up and notice for a split second and then it takes another short but noticeable second to forget it and get back into the song you're listening to.
But the worst thing of all is knowing that these mistakes were, all of them, completely avoidable - if only they'd bothered to run all the lyrics past a handful of their close, fluently English-speaking friends first, and asked these fluent English speakers to read those lyrics back to them, out loud. If they'd only done this - simply asked a friend - they would have added some pronunciation notes in the margin for later (if, or where, needed) BEFORE they went into the studio to record them, and then we wouldn't have to risk hearing any endearing little mistakes which can mentally wrench us out of a song, even for the briefest millisecond, to think about how charmingly Swedish they are.
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Post by justabba on May 20, 2020 11:40:17 GMT
Dont forget they all speak much better English these days, especially Frida who lives with an English man...
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 13:27:31 GMT
Actually, I don't find the pronunciations of the lyrics within the songs you mentioned slightly wince-inducing at all. They add a certain charm and appeal. Just a trace of that Nordic accent is so prominent in all their songs and which I find irresistible.
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Post by justabba on May 20, 2020 14:28:11 GMT
Actually, I don't find the pronunciations of the lyrics within the songs you mentioned slightly wince-inducing at all. They add a certain charm and appeal. Just a trace of that Nordic accent is so prominent in all their songs and which I find irresistible. Absolutely. One of the features that makes them instantly recognisable as ABBA.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 8:02:54 GMT
Totally agree edmfio76 and justabba - it doesn't bother me at all. And I imagine lots of their fans don't notice, a lot of them don't have English as their first language.
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Post by gary on May 21, 2020 9:49:51 GMT
I also like the accents and the slight mispronunciations. But there's one instance of the latter that doesn't sound good - Agnetha's pronunciation of 'tough' in As Good As New. Properly pronounced, 'tough' would have rhymed perfectly with 'stuff'.
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Post by Alan on May 21, 2020 20:38:59 GMT
I also like the accents and the slight mispronunciations. But there's one instance of the latter that doesn't sound good - Agnetha's pronunciation of 'tough' in As Good As New. Properly pronounced, 'tough' would have rhymed perfectly with 'stuff'. I had to listen to it a few times after reading that. You’re right, it’s a really odd way of singing it. She sounds almost embarrassed to be using the word, and sounds anything but.
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Post by gazman on May 22, 2020 11:30:17 GMT
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Post by justabba on May 22, 2020 12:35:40 GMT
Lol you beat me to it gazman
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 17:41:37 GMT
Thank you to Gazman for the link to Bjorn's interview. It is such a shame that ABBA's new songs have been further delayed due to the Coronavirus pandemic. He does confirm that the songs will be released this year. I hope I am not wrong. We just have to remain patient and positive. At least, some good news.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 17:41:46 GMT
I don't believe that there are just 2 New Songs. I think that Bjorn is tired, of answering Questions about them. It was the Female Interviewer, who asked about 'The 2 new songs'. Bjorn just didn't bother, to say that there are more than 2. It would have meant, discussing the whole issue, more than he wanted to. So, he just - quickly - agreed, with the Interviewer, and then said we should get them later this Year. The Female Interviewer is not at all well researched. She, (clearly), has no idea, of the many hints, that there are more than 2 Songs. Also, she thinks that, just because ABBA 'announced' 2 Songs, in April 2018, that they Recorded them in 2018. They Recorded them in June 2017. I really don't think, that we should give too much attention, to ABBA Interviews, where the Interviewer is out of touch with all of Bjorn's Interviews, after April 2018. Especially, as Bjorn, is certainly bored, with answering 'New ABBA Songs' Questions. He just goes along with what the Interviewer says. She said: '2 New Songs', and he was just too bored to correct her...
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Post by gazman on May 22, 2020 18:58:13 GMT
When you watch the clip and he replies about the release dates of the new songs, he has a coy smile and he doesn't really look at the camera - I wonder if plans are, in fact, quite advanced...it's a case of 'watch this space', isn't it?
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Post by justabba on May 22, 2020 19:49:52 GMT
When you watch the clip and he replies about the release dates of the new songs, he has a coy smile and he doesn't really look at the camera - I wonder if plans are, in fact, quite advanced...it's a case of 'watch this space', isn't it? Oh I hope you are right!!!!
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