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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 6, 2022 18:31:30 GMT
[...] not what I consider a true ABBA fan and certainly has no respect for Frida. Ah. You have me thinking of that burnt orange creature who looks like he's made of distressed leather and dayglo teeth. By now, I think I only trust Popjustice as a source of reliable leaks. |
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Post by gamleman on Jul 7, 2022 7:39:42 GMT
So, what happened in ABBA's Tik Tok event yesterday? Anybody know?
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Post by justabba on Jul 7, 2022 8:06:48 GMT
So, what happened in ABBA's Tik Tok event yesterday? Anybody know? It was in my opinion abominable. The presenter was unwatchable and almost all the footage was old. |
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Post by welshboy on Jul 7, 2022 9:16:02 GMT
I think we should wait and see. I for one would like to see these new songs come out in late 2023. We have had The Voyage album 2021, then the Voyage shows in summer 2022 it would be good to see new music come out in 2023.
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Post by gary on Jul 7, 2022 10:13:09 GMT
So, what happened in ABBA's Tik Tok event yesterday? Anybody know? It was in my opinion abominable. The presenter was unwatchable and almost all the footage was old. I couldn’t get past the first two minutes. |
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Post by Jilly on Jul 7, 2022 10:16:46 GMT
Not a shock that TikTok would have something basically unwatchable?
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 7, 2022 10:31:11 GMT
I thought it a little odd that this "event" would be confined to that one platform. Especially given that such a big chunk of the fanbase is comprised of doddery old codgers like me who never managed to get their head around Insta, never mind TikTok. Does anyone know if a copy will/can be placed on YouTube?
I tried using TikTok as a guest. I saw just a few seconds of some bloke in a maroon suit "interviewing" ABBA on the red carpet but it seemed inane and substance free. Basically a replica of all the other shouty, basic questioning of the other journalists on opening night. If I could have figured out how the whole thing works, I might have battled on through for a bit, but it didn't seem worth it. Am I wrong? Did I miss anything? Do I need to get on down wiv da yoof and make videos of me doing the hoovering to Boney M remixes?
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Post by undertheappletree on Jul 7, 2022 16:03:31 GMT
So, what happened in ABBA's Tik Tok event yesterday? Anybody know? It was in my opinion abominable. The presenter was unwatchable and almost all the footage was old. My thoughts exactly, just when you think, the world can't get anymore Camper this vomit inducing Specimen pops up to make you reach for the off button. |
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Post by AdamDawson2003 on Jul 7, 2022 17:42:57 GMT
I saw the CD albums boxed set in HMV Liverpool today priced at £40.00 did consider getting it but thought to myself do I really need it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2022 17:47:02 GMT
Adam, we all succumb to temptation where ABBA boxed sets are involved. I often ask myself the same question and then say to hell with it.
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Post by gamleman on Jul 8, 2022 11:50:15 GMT
It's funny how the marketing machine behind ABBA Voyage does some things so well (Youtube announcement of Voyage, the knitting sketches for LT and even the lyric videos, for what they're worth) and some things so badly (Instagram countdown to Voyage and now this Tik Tok thing). I confess that I have looked at the Tik Tok video out of curiosity but didn't get beyond about 30 seconds.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2022 11:59:28 GMT
Do they realise their core fans are middle aged and probably not into TikTok?
I have no idea what this TikTok ABBA thing is. I don't use TikTok. I am not a teenager.
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Post by justabba on Jul 8, 2022 18:19:42 GMT
What with tik tok and the lyric "video" for lay all your love on me, its not been a great week for us abba fans!
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Post by joseph on Jul 8, 2022 18:23:28 GMT
TikTok, like any social media platform, has its good and bad points. Also, it's not just for teenagers. I find the speeded up/slowed down thing annoying but it's a vast platform- there's loads of content on there. And it has definitely increased awareness of ABBA and their music so I'm open minded about it. There are idiots on every part of the Internet, TikTok doesn't have a monopoly on that. Visited Twitter recently? That's an absolute cesspit at times.
Incidentally, that TikTok interviewer....HOW irritating was he? Absolutely useless and I was cringing watching it. As ever, the members of ABBA were as gracious as ever. Me, I'd have struggled to respond to any of his inane questions. Where on earth did they get this bloke? Could they seriously not find someone else?
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Post by welshboy on Jul 9, 2022 10:23:17 GMT
Yes I don't understand TIKTOK, but they are trying to build up a younger fan bass going forward. Yes most of the fans here I think are of the age that remember Abba first time around and they are looking to build 10, 20 years going on. When most of us will have lost our hearing of may even be dead. Ha Ha.
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 9, 2022 10:32:31 GMT
Nothing that-we all haven’t already thought/ know...but...
In several UK newspapers today including the Sun , Voyage Concert will be changed have new Set list at sone point, ABBA recorded many tracks, the idea of it going on for years with different tracks appeals to Ludwig, also the possibility of opening other venues in North and South America and Asia, so longevity plans are afoot...
Again mentioned about those two tracks , they will not be released......dam Benny forever mentioning them..lol
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Post by richard on Jul 9, 2022 10:50:29 GMT
If those two unfinished songs have definitely been ditched from any future release, then it makes me wonder what they might offer for any 'deluxe' Voyage album, if it happened.
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 9, 2022 10:55:07 GMT
Dammit. Has Benny definitely ruled them out? Grr.
So what could be on a deluxe? Benny's piano versions? Some retooled songs from the Voyage concert? Lord knows we won't get remixes of the singles. Some of the in-studio clips and the videos for ISHFIY and LT on DVD?
Maybe there won't be a deluxe edition? It has only been conjecture, speculation and hope until now...
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Post by gamleman on Jul 9, 2022 11:27:15 GMT
Changing the repertoire of the Voyage show will depend on what ABBA originally 'recorded' with motion capture - I thought it was said that they did about 25 songs, but I may be wrong. That wouldn't leave much scope for altering the set-list over future years. Now, although Bjorn kept telling us that we are seeing ABBA's own movements in the ABBAtars, I saw somewhere (on Facebook, I think) a group photo of the body-doubles used for the Voyage show. I'm not sure about their exact role but I suppose they could have been or could be used to 'record' more songs?
Perhaps disappointing news about the two unfinished tracks but if Benny doesn't consider them up to standard then that is a good reason not to release them. If they were to release sub-standard material, I'm sure people wouldn't hold back in their condemnation in these days of social media - look what happened with LT!
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Post by joseph on Jul 9, 2022 11:48:01 GMT
Where is it stated that Benny has said those two unreleased tracks will definitely not be released?
I was pretty much underwhelmed by the Lay All Your Love On Me lyric video. It's baffling why so little effort has been put into it. It's SUCH a great song, one of ABBA's best and as such deserves better. However, I watched it until the end as I don't want to scupper the view count or the algorithm. I still want ABBA's channel to get those views.
Incidentally, it contains one of my favourite special moments...the part where Agnetha and Frida sing, "aaaaaaaand everything is you." Oops, I think I may have mentioned this before! I will be walking into rooms and forgetting why next!
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 9, 2022 12:05:57 GMT
^^ Ifs it to be believed.. re the two tracks, it’s mentioned in the Mirror....it may be old news ? And minds may have changed..who knows.. the speculation....
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Post by richard on Jul 9, 2022 12:21:22 GMT
If Benny has decided that these two unfinished songs aren't worth bothering with further - or not as of now, anyway - we have to respect that, of course. But people sometimes change their minds - composers and listeners alike - about as to what constitutes a substandard song, as gamleman, expresses it. I know I have! And perhaps Benny, unlike some listeners, actually rates Little Things. And don't Benny and Bjorn think highly of I Wonder and also TKHLHC? Yet a number of fans don't. That's part of the fascination of music. |
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 9, 2022 12:34:36 GMT
Apparently there’s a full article in the August issue of Retro Pop......
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Post by Jilly on Jul 9, 2022 12:50:57 GMT
I think more fans would rather hear JLT in HQ than those two unreleased songs that were deemed worse than LT and B to not make the album.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2022 14:34:06 GMT
Here is the article from the Mirror www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/abba-planning-massive-shake-up-27436902It is hoped that the Voyage show will go to South America, North America and Asia - not that there are plans. As for the two songs left off Voyage. No more music. No new album. Both Benny and Bjorn make that clear. I take that to mean the unreleased Voyage songs will remain unreleased. If you are over-optimistic/unrealistic you might quibble about "new" music and argue the two songs are not new. But it, to me, seems clear no "more" music - songs already recorded or future recordings. I agree with gamleman ,if they are not up to scratch (which is what I expected) then better not to release them. Yes, HOMETIME , there may never be a deluxe album. It was speculation, as you say anyway. I am happy with the album as a whole. It was a remarkable achievement to record after 40 years. Some of the tracks are up to ABBA's best and the album was a huge commercial hit. Let's not get greedy! |
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Post by lamont on Jul 9, 2022 14:57:20 GMT
Changing the repertoire of the Voyage show will depend on what ABBA originally 'recorded' with motion capture - I thought it was said that they did about 25 songs, but I may be wrong. That wouldn't leave much scope for altering the set-list over future years. Now, although Bjorn kept telling us that we are seeing ABBA's own movements in the ABBAtars, I saw somewhere (on Facebook, I think) a group photo of the body-doubles used for the Voyage show. I'm not sure about their exact role but I suppose they could have been or could be used to 'record' more songs? Perhaps disappointing news about the two unfinished tracks but if Benny doesn't consider them up to standard then that is a good reason not to release them. If they were to release sub-standard material, I'm sure people wouldn't hold back in their condemnation in these days of social media - look what happened with LT! I think with the advancing technology, the abba members won’t need to do any more performances, if their movements are in a computer then I’m sure an advanced computer will be able to come up with different scenarios for any song in ABBA’s cannon. It may be like the Sims, or body doubles will do the more adventurous dancing. I think this is what Bjorn means that the avatars will live on. We could be witnessing the launch of a completely new ABBA. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2022 15:45:37 GMT
Gamleman - my interpretation is ABBA recorded up to 25 songs in capture motion. The body doubles for more energetic movements on stage.
Lamont - interesting theory.It sounds good. Or would it be extrs songs would put to animation, like a couple in the show already are.
As for new locations, this depends on the longevity of the London shows. More feasible alternatives are Sweden and Germany, imo.
I know Las Vegas has been talked about. Possibly, if a long running show in London. It would seem a quite Vegas thing..not that I have been to Vegas!
We can rule out South America, Asia or Australia. ABBA don't have the fanbase - yes, I include Australia. Plus tickets would be very expensive esp for South America. Those place, I feel, are not realistic alternatives.
But like I said it all depends on success and duration in London.
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Post by Cindy on Jul 9, 2022 15:53:10 GMT
If the show goes to markets other than Vegas or the Eurozone, I would imagine it being a ‘lite’ version of the show.
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Post by justabba on Jul 9, 2022 16:37:12 GMT
The last time Benny discussed the 2 unreleased songs was for a German TV interview in November last year. He described them as pretty good stuff, but would need a lot of work from him to complete them. He didn't give the impression they were substandard or never being released. He rather said when they looked at the tracks and the album they "shouldn't be there now".
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Post by lamont on Jul 9, 2022 16:43:51 GMT
Gamleman - my interpretation is ABBA recorded up to 25 songs in capture motion. The body doubles for more energetic movements on stage. Lamont - interesting theory.It sounds good. Or would it be extrs songs would put to animation, like a couple in the show already are. As for new locations, this depends on the longevity of the London shows. More feasible alternatives are Sweden and Germany, imo. I know Las Vegas has been talked about. Possibly, if a long running show in London. It would seem a quite Vegas thing..not that I have been to Vegas! We can rule out South America, Asia or Australia. ABBA don't have the fanbase - yes, I include Australia. Plus tickets would be very expensive esp for South America. Those place, I feel, are not realistic alternatives. But like I said it all depends on success and duration in London. Maybe in places where the arena couldn’t be built, then the show could be played in cinemas? It is quite a big thing now for live shows to be shown there. |
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