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Post by johnny on Sept 5, 2023 14:28:55 GMT
Perhaps if we had an album of say 10 new songs, we'd have a better choice of lead single.
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 5, 2023 14:32:11 GMT
You'd certainly hope so!
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Post by bjorenny on Sept 5, 2023 15:24:41 GMT
The animated music video for WDWGFH is on the Ross King section of ITV's Lorraine show tomorrow morning.
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Post by Alan on Sept 5, 2023 15:36:22 GMT
Bizarrely, Ross King’s segment is “Live From Hollywood” so seems odd that the video is included in that. Unless, of course, it’s been produced by an American company. Some stills from the video: Guessing there was no inspiration from this… (“Tiger” sequence from ABBA-Dabba-Doo!) As I suspected, it makes sense of the picture disc design. In a way it’s not unlike how the ABBATars were used to promote the Voyage album and I Still Have Faith In You. As with Voyage, where the ‘Tars were used for alternate artwork and a picture disc, here we get similar with a picture disc.
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Post by joseph on Sept 5, 2023 18:19:43 GMT
Those two dogs in the car with Agnetha obviously represent Bella and Bruno.
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Post by BAAB on Sept 5, 2023 20:10:59 GMT
I guess most people, who are no ABBA Superfans will most likely draw connection to another current "Blondie-in-a-pink-car"movie...😂
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Post by Alan on Sept 6, 2023 8:54:03 GMT
Having sat through Lorraine, I’m reminded why I never watch ITV.
A visual message from Agnetha was unexpected, but we only got a few seconds of the video.
Full video on YouTube from 10am.
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Post by johnny on Sept 6, 2023 9:07:54 GMT
Here's the video
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Post by Alan on Sept 6, 2023 9:18:04 GMT
I think once is enough for that! Seems very far removed from the real person. I’d rather it look a bit more like her.
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Post by richard on Sept 6, 2023 10:47:59 GMT
Will this be a future trend, I wonder: cartoony videos, fantasy younger versions of artists - Elvis, The Beatles, Madonna... you name them - to go with the treated music. (Though now I think about it, I doubt many Elvis fans - I like a few of his songs, but I wouldn't call myself a fan - could stomach significant manipulation of his vocals to the point where it doesn't sound much like him.)
Perhaps it feels more acceptable to a lot of fans of living artists when those artists have given their approval to such vocal manipulation.
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Post by Alan on Sept 6, 2023 15:12:25 GMT
There was actually a video message from Agnetha in the Lorraine feature. Someone’s presumably recorded it on their phone from the TV. Her message is at 2:40.
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Post by Alan on Sept 6, 2023 20:34:54 GMT
Those two dogs in the car with Agnetha obviously represent Bella and Bruno. The dogs in question: “When I saw the video for the first time, I couldn’t believe my eyes! It was so beautiful and so emotional. Everything was there, even my beloved dogs and the very first car I ever owned - it captured it all” 🌸 Agnetha x
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Post by johnny on Sept 7, 2023 17:30:58 GMT
Nice cartoon and nice piccy of Agnetha and her doggies.
But the song, apart from maybe the first line or two doesn't sound like Agnetha. The cartoon doesn't even look like a young Agnetha. So, what is the point?
At least with the Voyage album the girls were sounding their age and everything age-apropriate. (Ok, on Dan, Agnetha sounded young middle aged mother but she easn't trying to sound in her 20s)
Yes, I have listened to it few more times. I can remember the melody and vocals a bit more, not really the lyrics while I hear it. But to be honest, they don't register with my brain - or emotions for very long after I hear the song.
I feel other people think the same on here. At best it's damning with faint praise.
There may have been a slight flicker of positive thoughts of a revival. Repeated hearings of the song and visuals of the video are playing tricks. There hasn't really been a movement. The song is corpse. It is dead. After a week, time for a burial.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2023 17:58:51 GMT
Hi,
For the last week I every day played the single. Always for two or three times trying to understand and listening to this song. I didn’t play it today nor tomorrow. It can’t catch me at all. Boring dull song.
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Post by bjorenny on Sept 7, 2023 18:15:53 GMT
It's not my favourite Agnetha single by a mile, but I, for one, seem to be in the minority, as I like it and can't get it out of my head. My 8 year old daughter keeps singing it around the house, so there's something to it!
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Post by welshboy on Sept 7, 2023 19:45:55 GMT
I have not posted for a long time. I just don't find the posts here fun anymore. There are no positive posts at all. Yes this single my not be up with Agnethas best songs but I do enjoy hearing it and I do love the video. It's different and love to see the little things that link to Agnethas past.
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Post by welshboy on Sept 7, 2023 19:53:23 GMT
Iam also looking forward to the new LP just to see how it has changed over the last 10 years. She is never going to have the voice she once did. But I still enjoy her output and can't wait to hear what Agnetha does next.
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Post by joseph on Sept 7, 2023 21:14:05 GMT
^What are you going on about? There's a positive post directly above yours. And lots of constructive criticism and viewpoints. Everyone here is presumably an adult. There's lots of 'fun' and humour to be seen in many posts, even the critical ones.
I think the video is cute but it wouldn't win any Oscars. The animator is unknown to me so I like the idea that he was chosen and perhaps to give him some recognition. I also don't think it really matters that it doesn't exactly resemble Agnetha- it's a cartoon after all and just an idea of her, a reimagining if you will. The song has grown on me somewhat and may continue to do so. I believe I may have been too quick off the mark to judge it. Agnetha is beyond adorable in that little clip saying hello. How could you not love this woman?
I see chron or (chronington?) posted but then removed their post in support of the song which is a shame as there were some good points made. It baffles me why they do this as it isn't the first time. All points of view are valid and deserve to be heard.
The song may not be massively popular on this tiny forum but beyond here there is support and love for the song. I doubt it'll be in my top 10 and I still have some reservations but I'm still glad she did this. I can't recall who said it but something was said here along the lines of wishing she hadn't bothered. Bothered. Seriously? I actually find that rather harsh. Maybe Agnetha did this because she WANTED to. Maybe, God forbid, it brought her joy? Maybe, just maybe, she believes in it and wanted to do it to please herself and her fans. Anyway, I have to stick to my belief that all views should be heard but I can't deny I was a little taken aback by this.
I've a feeling the reimagining of A will be right up my street. I always was curious about remixes. I wait with cautious optimism.
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Post by Henry on Sept 7, 2023 21:49:46 GMT
This song is up there with my favorite songs of Agnetha. I love it and I can't get it out of my head. I am amazed at some of the comments on here. Terrible.
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Post by Alan on Sept 8, 2023 7:08:13 GMT
I am amazed at some of the comments on here. Terrible. It’s terrible for anyone to have an opinion different to your own? We’re all supposed to be gushing with praise are we? I know someone that doesn’t think much of the song, particularly the vocal manipulation (they describe it as “Agnetha-bot”). They are on a well-known ABBA Facebook group but haven’t posted on there about it for fear of being attacked. And perhaps the group itself is suppressing any negative sentiment, I don’t know. But I am fed-up of guests posting on here and trying to shame the members and the forum. We’re having a discussion and people are giving reasons for their dislike or indifference towards the song. It has grown on me slightly. The vocal effects don’t bother me as much now. It’s only when she sings the title in the chorus that it doesn’t sound very much like her but I can live with that. I remember being quick to proclaim “A” as her best English album when it came out. But after a few months I didn’t play it for years and it fell out of favour, though I became re-acquainted with it earlier in the year and played it quite a few times. I suppose what I’d like is more of Agnetha in it. She co-wrote one song which has a bit of depth, but like joseph I’m more of a fan of My Colouring Book. That’s how to do a covers album.
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 8, 2023 7:51:32 GMT
I suppose a number of people sharing similar views on a new release could make it seem like there's nothing positive being said, but I think people have been honest about the single and I didn't detect any deliberate nastiness or negativity. Maybe the solution is to say only nice things and, if you don't like something, say nothing at all. Not very adult, not very healthy. Deliberate misbehaviour/trolling is one thing, but fangirl fawning from a bunch of middle-aged adults is the ultimate in cringe. I have listened to the single since its release and, while it has slightly grown on me, I really can't be counted as a fan. I'm curious about what's been done to the album but not enough to shell out for bundles (yet). I've no strong feelings on the video. It's cute but, apart from the lips making the shapes of the lyrics, it bears no relation to the song. Not that much problem, really, but it could be used to visualize any song across all of Agnetha's albums (I can even imagine it working on The Heat Is On). And maybe its perky brightness is a hint about the level of additional pop sheen that has been added to an already quite poppy album. But it seems to have connected with Agnetha on an emotional level and that's probably worth more than the commercial job it was designed to do. The iTunes charts are handy from a PR point of view but, as I know from my own experience, they are absolutely meaningless. I'm an absolute nobody and managed to score four top five placings on the Irish iTunes charts. If only you knew how little it took for those four singles to do that Put it this way, an industry insider told me in 2021 that Apple were considering taking down the iTunes shop and focusing solely on streaming. Right now, the Irish iTunes album chart has 91 albums: there aren't even enough sales/downloads to make a Top 100. As I say, they're handy for the smoke-and-mirrors of PR: some people do get kind of dazzled by the information and it makes for a slightly sexier press release (or at least it will until the harsh realities are more widely known). I'm still surprised that the single has not been playlisted on Radio 2 - I would have thought it a basic courtesy to a superstar who gave them a world exclusive.
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Post by bennybjorn on Sept 8, 2023 8:11:31 GMT
I'm still surprised that the single has not been playlisted on Radio 2 - I would have thought it a basic courtesy to a superstar who gave them a world exclusive. If Radio 2 were to playlist it, I don't think it would be until next week as the song only first appeared about a week ago. We'll find out over the weekend.
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Post by justabba on Sept 8, 2023 8:14:50 GMT
No one loves ABBA more than me, but the new single just isnt in the same league as voyage (for me) and I wont be commenting on the video. Radio 2 has certainly surprised me too. If it does get added I will know later this evening and will post it of course.
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Post by Alan on Sept 8, 2023 10:12:30 GMT
It could get playlisted. Was there a delay on one of the Voyage singles? I can’t remember. But there was the suggestion that the playlist is decided in advance, so perhaps the song’s premiere last Thursday was too late for last week’s?
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Post by richard on Sept 8, 2023 11:21:43 GMT
A handful of people on this small forum don't like this one particular Agnetha track or at least have had misgivings about it, because they (including me) find it underwhelming musically and/or the vocal manipulation on it makes it sound in places, as someone said (and I agree), not much like Agnetha to no valid musical end. Two or three here don't like these straightforward criticisms - .and of course they're not obliged to. But total approval of everything by ABBA or by its individual members, musically, is called sycophancy. The alternative, as HOMETIME says ,is to say nothing about something we don't like. And occasionally, no doubt, we do just that - even though the silence itself might be saying something to other regular contributors to this forum!
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Post by Alan on Sept 8, 2023 14:16:48 GMT
No one loves ABBA more than me, but the new single just isnt in the same league as voyage (for me) No one? That’s a bold statement! Not sure it’s fair for this be compared with Voyage, is it? The only thing the two have in common is that Agnetha sings on both. In fact, it can’t really be compared with the bulk of Agnetha’s solo work. Different times, different writers and different producers. The only songs it can be compared with are the other ten tracks on “A”, being as they have Jörgen Elofsson in common as co-writer and producer. It may as well be credited to “Jörgen Elofsson feat. Agnetha Fältskog”. That in mind, I’m not sure this song is better than any of the other ten (even the Gary Barlow one). Difficult to say, when I’ve only known it a week, and the others for ten years. One minor similarity is that a few lines (the reprise of part of the first verse) are made to sound like she’s singing down a telephone, like the first part of I Keep Them On The Floor Beside My Bed. I’ve just had a look at Jörgen Elofsson’s credits on Wikipedia, and I have to say that, aside from Agnetha, there isn’t a single song of his (that I’m familiar with) that I like! In that respect, it makes it easier to distance Agnetha from it. If you don’t like or are indifferent to this song or the original “A”, it might simply be that you’re not into Jörgen Elofsson’s work.
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Post by jj on Sept 8, 2023 15:14:13 GMT
No one loves ABBA more than me No one? That’s a bold statement! Alan, to be frank, it's NOT a bold statement. It's actually quite a reasonable and realistic one, because it simply means "No one loves ABBA more than he/she/they does/do" whilst also implying that many people like ABBA as much as he/she/they do.
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Post by jj on Sept 8, 2023 15:18:39 GMT
It implies he/she is as fervent an ABBA fan as the most fervent of ABBA fans.
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Post by justabba on Sept 8, 2023 15:26:39 GMT
No one? That’s a bold statement! Alan, to be frank, it's NOT a bold statement. It's actually quite a reasonable and realistic one, because it simply means "No one loves ABBA more than he/she/they does/do" whilst also implying that many people like ABBA as much as he/she/they do. Thanks jj . That's exactly what I meant. I identify as he
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Post by jj on Sept 8, 2023 15:27:12 GMT
I'm one of the regulars here who decided to withhold comment, preferring to say nothing rather than share my negative opinion.
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