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Post by Zeebee on Nov 2, 2017 20:46:57 GMT
In the Estoy Soñando video, Benny is holding a guitar and pretending to play it, while Björn is actually playing his guitar.
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Post by shoshin on Nov 3, 2017 0:18:20 GMT
In the Estoy Sonando video, Benny is holding a guitar and pretending to play it, while Bjorn is actually playing his guitar. Strangely, cos it's way beyond the call of duty on a lipsynched video, Benny isn't pretending there. It's possible, though unlikely, that his right hand isn't actually connecting with the strings, but his left hand is correct all the way through, albeit that they are very simple chords. Benny (like Bjorn) is even strumming a fair approximation of the descending intro line that crops up a few times in the song, which isn't predominantly a guitar part. What's also interesting, for a number of reasons, is that the key of the recorded song that we are hearing is a semitone higher than the chord shapes that we are seeing them play.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 8:52:48 GMT
According to this 1971 interview with Björn & Benny, they met for the first time in the spring of 1965. A few months later they met again at a party in Västervik. At night they brought some instruments to the office at Västervik's Paper Mill and wrote their first song "Isn't it Easy to Say". They also say "Välkommen till världen" and "Det kan ingen doktor hjälpa" was submitted to Melodifestivalen and that they would like to write film music and a musical.
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Post by shoshin on Jan 2, 2018 2:26:43 GMT
Just been watching a documentary all about the UK's biggest selling single of all time (with the exception of a couple of charity efforts). The narrator pointed out that eventually it was knocked off number 1 by another extraordinary band: ABBA. He also drew attention to a strange coincidence, something that both songs had in common.
Do you know what the coincidence was?
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Post by Liebezeit on Jan 2, 2018 3:18:46 GMT
Just been watching a documentary all about the UK's biggest selling single of all time (with the exception of a couple of charity efforts). The narrator pointed out that eventually it was knocked off number 1 by another extraordinary band: ABBA. He also drew attention to a strange coincidence, something that both songs had in common. Do you know what the coincidence was? ABBA had a song titled "Mamma Mia" while Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody featured the lyrics "Mamma Mia, Mamma Mia let me go".
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Post by shoshin on Jan 2, 2018 14:01:37 GMT
^^ That's right. After 9 weeks at number one, Queen's cry of 'Mamma Mia let me go' was finally heard and they were replaced by a song called Mamma Mia.
Mamma Mia did not initially appear to be much competition for Queen. It had entered the top 30 at no.29, having only risen three places from no.32. Then the following week, it was still stuck at 29! Its early chart performance of 43-32-29-29 didn't look too promising when compared to the more conventional trajectory of previous single SOS (47-31-16-7), which had subsequently stalled at number 6. Even when MM finally got to number 3, Sailor's Glass of Champagne was at number 2 and retained this position the following week, so that MM seemed to have peaked at 3. But it somehow clawed its way to number one and the rest is history.
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Post by gary on Jan 2, 2018 23:37:06 GMT
The chart trajectory in the UK of several of ABBA's earlier hits was pretty strange. Mamma Mia was certainly one of the strangest. And Fernando and Knowing Me Knowing You lingered at number two before getting to number one. Money Money Money went up and down within the top five. But the one that I never understood was Dancing Queen, which went 23-16-1. Nothing strange about an entry at 23, but 16 seemed oddly low for the second week, particularly considering the following week. Perhaps there was a shortage in the shops?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 2:18:23 GMT
I can answer some ABBA Questions, (from this Thread), and also add some 'fresh' ABBA Facts:
1)... The reason why 'Dancing Queen' entered the UK Charts rather low, & then had a small rise in Week 2, is due to some kind of change that was made on the main UK TV Chart Show - 'Top Of The Pops'. The day it was shown was changed, (in August 1976), & this affected the way several Hits behaved in the Singles Chart, Many Hits were affected - not just 'Dancing Queen'.
In the W/E 21st August 1976 Chart, ABBA entered the Top 50 at No.23 & Rod Stewart went in at No.22 with 'The Killing Of Georgie'. In Week 2 ABBA rose just 7 places to No.16 & Rod rose just 4 places to No.18. In Week 3 ABBA jumped to No.1, but Rod only rose to No.8. It took his Hit 5 Weeks to reach its Peak of No.2.
'Dancing Queen' actually entered the UK Charts even lower than No.23. The UK Singles Chart was a Top 50 at the time, but there were 10 'Breakers' just under the Top 50 each Week. They were really No.51 to No.60, but they were numbered No.1 to No.10.
The ABBA Hit entered the 'Breakers' on W/E 14th August 1976. It was not even at No.1 in the List - it had only sold enough to be 6th! Which was really No.56.
So, its real UK Chart entry was at No.56 - then No.23 - then No.16 - then No.1 - for 6 Weeks.
2)... It sold 850,000 to 860,000 UK copies in the 1970's, but 'only' 770,000 of them were in 1976. Which is why it was 'only' the UK's 4th Best Selling Single of 1976. 'Save Your Kisses For Me', by Brotherhood Of Man, was 1st - with over a Million sold, 2nd was 'Don't Go Breaking My Heart' by Elton John & Kiki Dee. That sold around 889,000. 3rd was 'Mississippi' by Dutch Group Pussycat. That sold around 849,000. Since then the ABBA Hit has outsold all 3 of the UK Hits, that outsold it in 1976.
3)... ABBA were well known for having a lot of UK Top 5 Hits that entered the Top 50 very low. This included some of their No.1's. 'Mamma Mia' started off at No.43, 'Fernando' at No.44 and 'Knowing Me, Knowing You' at No.48. Ironically, their highest entering UK Hit did not get to No.1. That was 'Chiquitita', which went in at No.8 & reached No.2.
4)... Yes, on W/E 31st January 1976, 'Mamma Mia' replaced Queen's 'Bohemian Rhapsody' at No.1, in the UK. As has been said, the Queen Hit uses the words 'Mama Mia' in it. So, we do have a big coincidence there. (Although Queen did not spell it quite the same way - as you can see).
5)... By the way, when 'Mamma Mia' did not move from No.29, on W/E 3rd January 1976, there was a good reason for it. The UK Chart Compilers used to take a Week's Holiday every January, so there were no Charts published for the 1st Week in January - Singles or Albums. Each Year, the final Chart of December was repeated - to fill the 'Gap' of the missing Chart. So, everything in the 1st January Chart was always at exactly the same Position, as they were in the final December Chart. (Some Countries just leave a 'Gap' there - even if no Charts are published for Weeks. New Zealand do that, & it cost ABBA dearly. The NZ Charts took a 7 Week 'Break' from December 1976 to February 1977. ABBA were at No.1 with 'Dancing Queen' & 'Arrival' at the time - so both were cheated out of 7 Weeks at No.1. Plus 'Money Money Money' was at No.2 & it lost 7 Weeks at No.2. 'The Best Of ABBA' was at No.2 & that lost 7 Weeks at No.2. In the UK, we'd have filled the 'Gaps' by repeating the final Chart of (Mid) December 1976, for 7 Weeks. We'd never allow any Act to lose 7 Weeks of Positions).
6)... There was actually a 2nd coincidence with ABBA No.1's. On W/E 29th November 1980, ABBA rose from No.2 to No.1, in the UK, with 'Super Trouper'. It replaced Blondie's 'The Tide Is High' at No.1. That fell to No.2. The UK Singles Chart began on W/E 15th November 1952. Since then, there has been 1,332 different No.1 Singles. Hardly any of them have anything about No.1 Hits in their lyrics. But, on W/E 29th November 1980, both the ABBA Hit at No.1 & the Blondie Hit at No.2 had mentions of No.1's in them. 'Super Trouper' had 'Feeling like a Number 1'. 'The Tide Is High' had, 'I'm Gonna Be Your Number 1'. A huge coincidence, as only about 4 or 5 UK No.1 Singles mention No.1's in any way.
7)... Eminem;s 'Revival' Album became his 8th UK No.1 Album - in a row - on W/E 28th December 2017. He became only the 3rd Act to manage as many as 8 consecutive No.1 Albums, in the UK. The other 2 are Led Zeppelin, (1970 to 1979), & ABBA, (1976 to 1982). A coincidence is that Led Leppelin's 8th UK No.1 Album - 'In Through The Out Door' - was recorded at ABBA's Polar Studio's, in late 1978.
8)... The biggest selling ABBA Song in the USA is not even performed by ABBA. It is a cover of 'Hasta Manana', by Debby Boone. She had it as the 'B' Side of her 1977/1978 No.1, 'You Light Up My Life'. The Single spent 10 Weeks at No.1, sold over 3 Million, (USA alone), & was the USA's Best Selling Single of the 1970's. Which means that the 'B' Side also sold over 3 Million. That's far more than any ABBA Single there.
9)... The biggest selling Benny & Bjorn Song in the USA, is also not by ABBA. The Group never recorded it. It is the cover of 'I Know Him So Well', on Whitney Houston's 'Whitney' Album, from 1987. It is a Duet between Whitney & her Mum, Cissy. That Album was the 1st by a Female to enter at No.1 there. It was No.1 for 11 Weeks & sold over 9,550,000, in the USA alone. So, the Benny & Bjorn, (& Tim Rice), Track on it, is their biggest selling Song in the USA.....
10)... Yes, in November 1980 'Super Trouper' was the 1st UK Album to gain a Million 'Advance Orders'. The UK Album Chart started on W/E 28th July 1956, & it took until ABBA, in 1980, for it to happen. However, it took no-where near as long for it to be broken again - exactly 4 Years. In November 1984, 'Welcome To The Pleasure Dome', by Frankie Goes To Hollywood, had around 1,150,000 UK 'Advance Orders'. The 'UK Album Advance Orders Record', has been broken several times, since then.
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Post by Zeebee on Jan 4, 2018 19:06:31 GMT
^^As familiar as I am with both Super Trouper and The Tide Is High, it had never occurred to me that they both mention "number one".
I never knew Debby Boone covered Hasta Manana. I found it on youtube. Whereas Agnetha speaks the first line of the second verse, Debby Boone sings that line. Here it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 21:24:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 21:29:38 GMT
I never knew Debby Boone covered Hasta Manana. I found it on youtube. Whereas Agnetha speaks the first line of the second verse, Debby Boone sings that line. Here it is. Not bad (and the boys must have made a heap of money from it), but the world is still waiting for Connie Francis's cover...which will sound exactly like the original! A belated edit: They might of course have signed away potential royalties, which seemed to be standard procedure when the B-side was a cover, and not have partaken in the phenomenal success of the single. But for once, the money issue could actually be interesting from an artistic viewpoint. I wonder what deal Stig was able to strike in 1977, at the heels of Dancing Queen and Arrival, i.e. how badly Boone and her people wanted their song. It would be a little indication of that old question, their status in the US at the time...
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Post by shoshin on Jan 4, 2018 23:05:42 GMT
Inserting 'number one' into lyrics doesn't always have the desired effect. In Lene Lovich's Lucky Number, she sings that her lucky number is one, then in a subsequent verse she amends that to two. It peaked in the UK charts at number 3
Boomtown Rats' debut single Lookin' After Number 1 misfired in a different way: its highest UK position was number 11.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 11:31:15 GMT
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Post by chelseacharger on Jan 6, 2018 15:37:57 GMT
I think 'Bright Lights Dark Shadows' relates this story. That both the West Bay Singers and Anni-Frid Lyngstad both progressed from the same regional final but they didn't actually meet or recall each other as Frida had performed much earlier in the day. At one point Bjorn's group were going to not bother waiting any longer but they were one of the last acts to get their chance. The West Bay Singers then won in the big final with Frida one of the runners up. This was the occasion that Stig's business partner, Bengt Bernhag talent spotted the boys and got them signed to Polar.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 18:27:26 GMT
OK, thanks. I can't find any results for Frida and The West Bay Singers in the Swedish Radio's competition. The later articles refer to the "Plats på scen" contest with Hootenanny Singers as one of six finalists.
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Post by shoshin on Jan 6, 2018 23:57:41 GMT
September 14th 1963, a very early article mentioning Frida and Björn... Wait.. So Frida and Björn almost certainly met before she met Benny or Benny met Björn or Björn met Agnetha? I wonder if there's any record of Hep Stars and Agnetha being on the same bill during 1968/69? Is there a feasible counterfactual narrative in which the same ABBA emerges except..
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Post by Liebezeit on Apr 29, 2018 14:27:13 GMT
Per Carl Magnus Palm, ABBA recorded a demo song that is way unrelated to the Jimi Hendrix Experience's song, but both share the same title... guess which title?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 16:08:58 GMT
ABBA wasn't the first Swedish group with a member named Agneta to use the member's initials to form the group's name. MAK les soeurs (Margareta, Agneta, Karin) released an album and several singles on the Cupol label in the late 60s.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 23:20:52 GMT
Did you know that boxing heavyweight legend George Foreman named one of his daughters Freeda because of his love of ABBA? I didn't, until earlier this evening...
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Post by Zeebee on Jun 28, 2018 20:28:43 GMT
Did you know that boxing heavyweight legend George Foreman named one of his daughters Freeda because of his love of ABBA? I didn't, until earlier this evening... In that case, he should've named one of his sons Bjorn or Benny instead of naming them all George.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 21:46:27 GMT
Did you know that boxing heavyweight legend George Foreman named one of his daughters Freeda because of his love of ABBA? I didn't, until earlier this evening... In that case, he should've named one of his sons Bjorn or Benny instead of naming them all George. That might have been a little bit too weird! Anyway, it makes perfect roundabout sense, considering that Fugees were allowed to sample ABBA for 'Rumble In The Jungle':
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Post by Fafner on Jul 21, 2018 12:45:28 GMT
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