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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Sept 14, 2016 20:43:01 GMT
My single choices are:
Mamma Mia / Tropical Loveland
SOS / Bang-A-Boomerang
Rock Me / I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do
I've Been Waiting For You / So Long
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 15, 2016 20:22:36 GMT
SOS/Man In The Middle
Mamma Mia/Intermezzo No.1
Hey Hey Helen/Crazy World*
I've Been Waiting For You/Medley*
*included as B-sides, given that they were recorded during the same sessions.
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Post by foreverfan on Sept 16, 2016 7:53:50 GMT
Finally ..I think...
SOS.. Should have been at least top 3 in the UK
Mamma Mia.. Well it started it all off really and is very catchy
I've Been Waiting For You.. A beautiful simple track, one of my favourites
Hey Hey Helen... Just for something different , and like when they get a little bit rockier
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Sept 16, 2016 9:25:00 GMT
Hey Hey Helen would've been my 5th single probably with Crazy World as a b side
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Post by chron on Sept 16, 2016 10:13:56 GMT
Hey Hey Helen would've been my 5th single probably with Crazy World as a b side So in the course of time you'd have released the album as a series of singles, more-or-less; the only tracks exclusive to the long-player being a throwaway ( please throw it away!) instrumental and the fairly dreary (albeit with a smidgen of something approaching funk) Man In The Middle? I think pulling four singles from an LP is cynical, but pulling five borders on Moby Grape debut-album-debacle levels of misjudgement! |
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Post by Alan on Sept 16, 2016 17:26:28 GMT
^^ Agreed. Plus it should be remembered that this album was never meant to have four singles. It was only because RCA in Australia pleaded for Mamma Mia that Polar relented. I'd argue that Voulez-Vous wasn't meant to have four either, with I Have A Dream only getting a release because of the tour and Year of the Child.
Releasing so many singles, and especially the "re-releases" from the two Greatest Hits albums, would have been career suicide for ABBA and probably have finished them off! Less really is more.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 18:14:07 GMT
^ Agreed four singles is too much from an album.
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Sept 16, 2016 18:47:15 GMT
Right, lets forget about Hey Hey Helen as a 5th single for me!!!
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Post by foreverfan on Sept 16, 2016 19:01:32 GMT
But surely guys this is only " make believe " and a bit of fun , and although four tracks from one album may seem a lot , many albums released many more Michael Jacksons Thriller for one.
I guess if we had the power and could turn back time , we'd all come up with something different from what was actually released , over ABBAs time I genuinely think there could have been at least another 5 singles.
We can all dream...
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Sept 16, 2016 19:34:36 GMT
It's a fact that 5 singles were released from Agnetha's 1st album.
1. Följ Med Mig / Jag Var Så Kär
2. En Sommar Med Dej / Försonade
3. Slutet Gott, Allting Gott / Utan Dej
4. Allting Har Förändrat Sej / Den Jag Väntat På
5. Snövit Och De Sju Dvärgarna / Min Farbror Jonathan
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Post by maxisaxi on Sept 16, 2016 21:59:38 GMT
Mamma Mia/Bang A Boomerang
Hey Hey Helen/So Long
I've Been Waiting For You/Rock Me
SOS/Tropical Loveland
maxisaxi
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Post by Alan on Sept 17, 2016 17:57:57 GMT
It's a fact that 5 singles were released from Agnetha's 1st album. 1. Följ Med Mig / Jag Var Så Kär 2. En Sommar Med Dej / Försonade 3. Slutet Gott, Allting Gott / Utan Dej 4. Allting Har Förändrat Sej / Den Jag Väntat På 5. Snövit Och De Sju Dvärgarna / Min Farbror Jonathan It's not the same. Agnetha was apparently being marketed as a singles act, and in the 1960s it was commonplace to release singles that never appeared on albums. The two markets were seen as being separate and very different. Cupol decided to collect up the A and B sides that had already been released and add a few new recordings in order to call it an album. From the 70s it was more normal to include singles on albums. I think people are looking at it more from an 80s perspective, when albums were released four years apart and it became normal to bridge these long gaps with four or more singles from one album. Michael Jackson took this to its logical conclusion by releasing nine (out of eleven) tracks from Bad over a two year-period (1987-89). This meant that the four years (1987 to 1991) between albums didn't seem that long. ABBA, on the other hand, were around in an era where albums were more frequent, with up to 18 months between albums (and often less time than that) so three (or even just two) singles were enough. More than that, I think, would have been too much ("not them again" groaned the general public). It could have led to the "grand switch-off" of 1982 in the UK happening much sooner, in my opinion. That's why I really do struggle with these topics. You can't change the past, and if you could, you'd risk wrecking it. |
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Sept 17, 2016 18:25:26 GMT
What are your single choices Alan?
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Post by Alan on Sept 17, 2016 22:44:43 GMT
What are your single choices Alan? Pretty much exactly what was released! Perhaps Eagle or (more likely) Thank You For The Music might have scraped the top 5, and When All Is Said And Done may have done OK as long as it was released in 1981 (but then again, ABBA looked quite awful in that video - remember my long-standing theory that it was the One of Us video that helped to finish ABBA as a singles act in the UK?) Everything else would be trying to fix what isn't broken. Even I Do was a hit in many countries, so denying it a single release could well have harmed ABBA elsewhere. The golden period - SOS to One of Us - should largely be left untouched. The first three albums may have room for some adjustments, but it would be clutching at straws to assume Honey Honey could have been much bigger than Ring Ring. The songs weren't at fault, really, but at the beginning ABBA were. They won Eurovision! They're Swedish (or rather, not from the UK, Ireland, US or Australia)! We're not letting them back in the charts until they prove they're not a novelty act. Same at the end really, the songs were fine but ABBA'a image definitely wasn't. They belong to the 1970s! They look old and miserable. Get them off! |
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 18, 2016 12:29:14 GMT
I think your theory about the visuals is right. As far as pop videos go, I think that Lasse Halstrom lost his mojo after Summer Night City. He had a brief return to form with The Winner Takes It All but even that would be surpassed by other groups' videos within a short time - everyone from David Bowie to Dollar was delivering fresher and more creative looking videos around that general timeframe. I wonder who finally made the brave decision to replace Lesse with the two new bucks for TDBYC and UA? The difference was immense (even if UA looked like it had been made on the tail end of the budget blown for TDBYC). By 1980, ABBA needed the services of a bolshy stylist who would brook no dissent. At the very least the girls should have been made keep the receipts for those hideous dresses worn in the WAISAD video - what were they thinking? Agnetha's even looks like it has nipple tassles. Bjorn and Benny's two-lads-from-HR-who-fancied-appearing-in-a-pop-video aesthetic was dreadful. |
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Post by Alan on Sept 18, 2016 13:24:31 GMT
What happened to the quote, there, Tony?!😀
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 18, 2016 13:50:32 GMT
No idea! I tried to quote just the part about the WAISAD video, but it kept deleting the whole shebang. Then I tried to make it a standard, non-quote reply and, well, you can see the result.
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Post by Alan on Sept 18, 2016 14:44:40 GMT
Yes, I've struggled a bit with quoting on here. A post looks such a mess in the layout it shows in. I'd prefer there to actually be a paragraph break rather than giving some odd indication that there is one. I suppose we'll get used to it.
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Post by chron on Sept 18, 2016 15:23:24 GMT
Just to go OT for a moment: how have some of you emigrants from the ABBAforum become graded (bronze, silver, gold, etc) members? Have you lobbed in something for upkeep somewhere, or is that some sort of carry-over from your activities/histories on other ProBoards forums?
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 18, 2016 15:53:30 GMT
Some of us have history here. Others of us have photos of the moderation team in compromising positions. I am legally precluded from saying anything further.
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Post by foreverfan on Sept 18, 2016 16:01:39 GMT
I think and only think... When you get to 20 posts you go bronze, and so on up....
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Post by chron on Sept 18, 2016 16:09:50 GMT
I think and only think... When you get to 20 posts you go bronze, and so on up.... Something as prosaic as that? Righto. Well, I don't mind being a 'junior' member for a while, then; it helps foster the impression that I'm judicious with my replies! |
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Post by chron on Sept 18, 2016 16:26:03 GMT
Others of us have photos of the moderation team in compromising positions Agreeing to have your photograph taken while wearing a pair 1977-vintage 100% polyester ABBA portrait-emblazoned knee-socks will inevitably come back to haunt you. |
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Post by foreverfan on Sept 18, 2016 16:47:24 GMT
Just post a few more and see if it happens... Lol
Sorry for going OT
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Sept 18, 2016 16:49:24 GMT
Others of us have photos of the moderation team in compromising positions What does that mean? |
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Post by chron on Sept 18, 2016 17:20:36 GMT
Is that a bluff, Alex?
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Sept 18, 2016 17:32:00 GMT
no
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Sept 18, 2016 17:33:46 GMT
Compromising positions - I don't know what that means, OK
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 18, 2016 17:40:25 GMT
It means "doing things they shouldn't" - like snorting coke off hookers' thighs and/or wearing stonewash bootcut jeans in a public place.  |
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Post by chron on Sept 18, 2016 17:40:38 GMT
compromising: "(of information or a situation) revealing an embarrassing or incriminating secret about someone"
position: "a particular way in which someone or something is placed or arranged"
Edit: as hometime just elucidated!
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