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Post by josef on Apr 10, 2017 14:36:39 GMT
I'd like to do this, and the Agnetha one, but unfortunately I just don't have time right now. To do it fairly, I'd need to sit down and reacquaint myself with a lot of the songs. And that would take me hours. Plus, I'd want to comment and that all takes time. Also, the deadline thing for votes.. I'm just not the type of person to rush or cram things.
So perhaps another time.
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Apr 10, 2017 15:35:18 GMT
Go ahead and do it.
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Post by josef on Apr 10, 2017 15:42:57 GMT
lol
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Apr 10, 2017 16:18:26 GMT
better late than never
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Post by chelseacharger on Apr 10, 2017 19:21:13 GMT
Not been around of late so only just seen this. If to late, just for fun then.
60s/70s singles
En Ledig Dag - 9
Peter, Kom Tillbaka - 6
Din - 7
Du Ar Sa Underbart Rar - 8
Simsalabim - 5
Vi Möts Igen - 7
Mycket Kär - 7
När Du Blir Min - 6
Härlig Är Vår Jord - 8
Räkna De Lykliga Stunderna Blott - 8
Så Synd Du Måste Gå - 8
Försök Och Sov Pa Saken - 7
Peter Pan - 7
Du Betonar Kärlek Lite Fel - 6
Där Du Gar Lämnar Kärleken Spar - 8
Du Var Främling Här Igår - 7
Min Egen Stad - 9
En Gång Är Ingen Gång - 8
Vi Är Alla Bara Barn Början - 7
Kom Och Sjung En Sång - 7
En Kväll Om Sommarn (With Lars Berghagen) - 7
Vi Vet Allt Men Nästan Inget (With Lars Berghagen) - 6
Man Vill Ju Leva Lite Dessemellan - 8
Ska Man Skratta Eller Grata - 8
Frida
Tre Kvart Fran Nu - 8
Jag Blir Galen När Jag Tänker På Dej - 7
Lycka - 10
Sen Dess Har Jag Inte Sett 'En - 7
En Ton Av Tystnad - 7
Suzanne - 8
Allting Skall Bli Bra / Vad Göd Jag Me Min Kärlek - 8
Jag Ar Beredd - 7
En Liten Sang Om Karlek - 8
Telegram För Fullmånen - 7
Barnen Sover - 8
Ensam
Fernando - 9
Jag Är Mig Själv Nu - 8
Som En Sparv - 8
Vill Du Låna En Man - 7
Liv På Mars? - 9 Hits the highs that Annie Lennox couldn't. Superb cover.
Syrtaki - 7
Aldrig Mej - 8
Guld Och Gröna Ängar - 8
Ett Liv i Solen - 10 Stunning
Skulle De' Va' Skönt - 8
Var Är Min Clown - 7
Something's Going On
Tell Me It's Over - 8
I See Red - 6
I Got Something - 7
Strangers - 7
To Turn The Stone - 8
I Know There's Something Going On - 10
Threnody - 10
Baby (Don't You Cry No More) - 8
The Way You Do - 7
You Know What I Mean - 9
Here We'll Stay - 7
Here We'll Stay (Solo) - 8
Shine
Shine - 8
One Little Lie - 7
The Face - 8
Twist In The Dark - 7
Slowly - 8
Heart Of The Country - 6
Come To Me (I Am Woman) - 8
Chemistry Tonight - 6
Don't Do It - 8
Comfort Me - 8
That's Tough - 8
Shine (Extended) - 8
Djupta Andetag
Älska Mig Alltid - 9
Ögonen - 6
Även En Blomma - 8
Sovrum - 7
Hon Fick Som Hon Ville - 7
Alla Mina Bästa År - 8
Lugna Vatten - 7
Vem Kommer Såra Vem Ikväll - 8
Sista Valsen Med Dig - 9
Kvinnor Som Springer - 8
70s/80s/90s/00s/10s singles
Med Varann - 6
Tango I Det Gröna - 7
Belle - 7
Time - 7
Så Länge Vi Har Varann - 8
As Long As I Have You - 8
Änglamark - 7
Saltwater - 9
What A Wonderful World - 8
La Barcarolle - 8
The Sun Will Shine Again - 8
Lieber Gott - 9
I Have A Dream (2004) - 6
Morning Has Broken - 7
1865 - 7
Andante Andante (Your expectations of it) - 8
Remixes
Alla Mina Bästa År (Hasbrouck Heights Single Mix) - 7
Ögonen (Lemon Mix) - 7
Även En Blomma (Version) - 8
Alla Mina Bästa År (Mix Adagio) - 9
Ögonen (Version) - 6
Alla Mina Bästa År (TV Track) - 8
Alla Mina Bästa År (Adagio Instrumental) - 9
Alla Mina Bästa År (Hasbrouck Heights Glacier Mix) - 7
Alla Mina Bästa År (Quiet Mix) - 6
Alla Mina Bästa År (VOX) - 6
Alla Mina Bästa År (Jazzed Out Barracuda Dub) - 7
Alla Mina Bästa År (Spaceclub Mix) - 6
I Know There's Something Going On (Lindstrøm Remix) - 8
I Know There's Something Going On (TORN Remix) - 7
I Know There's Something Going On (Fred Falke Remix) - 7
I Know There's Something Going On (Junge Junge Remix) - 6
I Know There's Something Going On (Lindstrøm Remix Dub) - 7
Unreleased
En Dag Om Våren (När Du Blir Min) - 7
En Lång Och Ödslig Väg - 8
Shot Down In Action - 7
I Don't Wanna Be Alone - 7
Other
När Det Lider Mot Jul - 8
Glans Över Sjö Och Strand - 8
Nu Vissla Vi Ett Slag - 7
I Min Blommiga Blå Krinolin - 7
Da Kommer Jag Igen (Flygarelåten) - 7
Söderhavets Sång - 7
Kalle på Spången - 7
Min Soldat - 7
Att Älska I Vårems Tid - 8
Ole Lukköje - 7
Vad Gör Det Att Vi Skiljs För I Afton - 8
Fire And Ice - 9
One to add : Alla Mina Basta Ar (Matt Pop Remix) - 9
Read more: abbachat.com/thread/793/frida-megarate#ixzz4dsBsNvD0
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Apr 10, 2017 20:00:11 GMT
One to add : Alla Mina Basta Ar (Matt Pop Remix) - 9
Should that mean that we should include: I Know There's Something Going On (Matt Mix)? I See Red (B-POP's Almighty Club Remix)? Twist in The Dark (B-POP's Sharp & Narrow Electro Remix)? Slowly (B-POP's Reconstruction Radio Remix)? Även En Blomma (Matt Pop Mix)? |
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Post by Liebezeit on Apr 10, 2017 20:29:37 GMT
One to add : Alla Mina Basta Ar (Matt Pop Remix) - 9
Should that mean that we should include: I Know There's Something Going On (Matt Mix)? I See Red (B-POP's Almighty Club Remix)? Twist in The Dark (B-POP's Sharp & Narrow Electro Remix)? Slowly (B-POP's Reconstruction Radio Remix)? Även En Blomma (Matt Pop Mix)? Sorry to burst your bubble but I can't help my blunt thoughts. I don't think unofficial remixes are necessary for a mega rate. Personally I'm not all for remixes generally because the song in the content just the same old stuff (nothing new, because the lyrics and the melody remains the same. Only the arrangement is different.) but with different additions. In this case: Frida's current record labels never gave, say, Matt Pop (despite for the fact that he was authorized by Cilla Black's record label to remix Cilla's song, which is an entirely different case from this), an okay sign to remix it unofficially and then freely distribute it. If it at least was authorised by a record label (and released on whatever the format it is, VINYL, CDs, DIGITAL DOWNLOAD, and CASSETTE TAPES), then it should be included in a mega rate, but it's not and it's well circulated on YouTube... until at least you get copyright struck. An unofficial remix of an officially published song posted on Bandcamp does not make it official either. The involvement of the record label to execute the release of the remix is what makes it official. I'm quite conservative when it comes to evaluating songs so unless Matt Pop actually makes it to the press to collaborate with ABBA to bring in the club mixes to the fans, I think the supposed audiences have their heads scratching when mentioning 'AmateurRemixer682 mix' instead of a 'Lemon mix' or 'Doris Day mix (A Benny and Björn joke)'. Better off sticking with the ones that are well authorised by the record company. I don't see B-POP appearing on the newspaper as one of the upcoming remixers, do I? I don't have anything against unofficial remixes (admittedly I've done it so), I think the non-notability status of the unofficial remixes is what makes me think that the Matt Pop mixes is unnecessary for a mega rating. I'm quite faithful to the ones that are official by any means. Just stating my take on this. I'm not here to influence anyone else's opinion (and I won't) |
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Apr 10, 2017 20:43:56 GMT
Ok, that said it then.
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Post by Alan on Apr 10, 2017 22:35:37 GMT
I'd like to do this, and the Agnetha one, but unfortunately I just don't have time right now. To do it fairly, I'd need to sit down and reacquaint myself with a lot of the songs. And that would take me hours. Plus, I'd want to comment and that all takes time. Also, the deadline thing for votes.. I'm just not the type of person to rush or cram things. So perhaps another time. Same here. And also with the Agnetha one. I could rate the songs from the English albums and Ensam, plus maybe a few others, but it would require sitting through most of the Swedish/German stuff. I wouldn't rate mixes at all as I don't see that they count. It would be the song I was rating, whatever version it was in. Why does there have to be a time limit? Can't it be ongoing? What I do like about these topics is that they give a definitive list of everything recorded. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 23:15:48 GMT
Courtesy of a premature Easter holiday and Spotify, I intend to do at least the Agnetha one tomorrow. Is it too late for Frida's?
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Apr 11, 2017 7:12:31 GMT
It isn't too late.
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Post by Alan on Apr 11, 2017 8:30:25 GMT
Maybe the interest in solo work of the ABBA members is really low here. I wonder if Agnetha Megarate would be more successful... In terms of this forum your best bet for whipping up interest is to announce an Agnetha Photo Megarate! (I sometimes think this site is as much an Agnetha fan site as it is an ABBA one.) That's an accusation that's been made against every ABBA forum I've been on, but if you look at the photo threads, there's usually only about one or two active members posting in them. It gives an extremely distorted view of what an ABBA fan is. I always ignore photo threads anyway. The chat threads are far less biased and I'm not really interested in old photos. I could go on but I'd probably get slaughtered! 😀 |
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Post by gary on Apr 11, 2017 11:09:18 GMT
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Seconded!
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Post by Michal on Apr 14, 2017 11:11:50 GMT
Why does there have to be a time limit? Can't it be ongoing? Isn't it because the votes are supposed to be counted afterwards?  I guess Alexbury wanted to find out which songs are the most popular here. |
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Apr 14, 2017 12:15:28 GMT
That's it
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Post by Liebezeit on Apr 14, 2017 15:52:12 GMT
Why does there have to be a time limit? Can't it be ongoing? Isn't it because the votes are supposed to be counted afterwards? I guess Alexbury wanted to find out which songs are the most popular here. If that's the purpose of what Alex is trying to formulate, I think it's a rather complicated and painstaking way to formulate which Frida songs are the most popular in this forum. It's like a very long voyage to finding the holy grail. Of course, popular music is meant to be popular, but in a half-half theory, if the Swedish version of Fernando happens to be tied with Även en blomma with a rating of 10.. from 10 tallies split half for each song from around 10 participants of the Frida mega rate, then these two songs may overshadow Frida's deep cuts (less known songs, TV songs, etc.), presented in the mega rate, thus, it presents almost no point in making mega rate, let alone to measure what is one of the most popular Frida songs. Unless you've got extra sets of real papers, 1TB of space to make up the whole histogram and stuffs on a spreadsheet program on who rated SGO's songs as 9, Frida Ensam's songs as 7, and more, that's like the hard road's way to calculate the popularity of Frida's song when you've got Google's algorithm displaying 'I Know There's Something Going On' as Frida's well known songs. With the hard road's way, it might be prone to having a chance of getting more than 5% error in my opinion. (Unless you've got teams of researchers! 😃) It might take weeks to let the participants rate and/or let the researcher collect and form a data.. It could even become a project - again, I'm stating my opinion. (Excuse my vague comments) Constructive criticism: The Rubber Ball Man you could have at least state your purpose of the Frida mega rate, in an articulate, clear, and concise way to prevent the confusion. Don't leave us stranded for a scavenger hunt to your idea. Let them see your purpose being typed and then they (as well as I) can get the picture of what it's supposed to be. |
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Post by chron on Apr 14, 2017 23:18:52 GMT
[Y]ou could have at least state your purpose of the Frida mega rate, in an articulate, clear, and concise way to prevent the confusion. Don't leave us stranded for a scavenger hunt to your idea. Let them see your purpose being typed and then they (as well as I) can get the picture of what it's supposed to be. Aren't 'they/them' and 'we' and 'I'/'me' (you) all one in this instance? Isn't 'us' 'we'?? |
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Post by Liebezeit on Apr 14, 2017 23:30:14 GMT
Aren't 'they/them' and 'we' and 'I'/'me' (you) all one in this instance? No, apparently not.  When I'm referring 'them' and 'us', I'm referencing everyone. Quite easy.  Aren't 'they/them' and 'we' and 'I'/'me' (you) all one in this instance? Isn't 'us' 'we'?? My sentence, 'Then they (as well as I)' in my last post is undoubtedly my grammar error. Can't excuse my impediment, I have to remedy it. In the context of 'they (as well as I)' I was trying to type that 'then the audience (including me) can get the picture of what it's supposed to be'. I'm part of the audience, supposedly. I try not to be too wordy or nonsense when making a constructive criticism, but I ended up being one, unfortunately. If that helps, here's the simplified version: 'Don't leave the audience confused with an enigmatic idea that they have to solve the puzzle. Construct a purpose as clear as possible to them, so the audience can get the idea of it' |
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Apr 14, 2017 23:34:21 GMT
Like the ABBA Megarate on the old forum, the purpose of this is to sum up how popular each song is and it is like a competition for each song.
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Apr 14, 2017 23:38:31 GMT
Can we get on with the Megarate please.
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Post by Liebezeit on Apr 14, 2017 23:45:19 GMT
Can we get on with the Megarate please. Maybe if you would extend the due date to a month and a half (or even two months), since we're past the due date that you gave to us? Then, we're good to go like a fresh car from the pit stop, for now.  A time limit will be given to you and that will be a week (7 days) - 8/4/17. |
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Post by Alan on Apr 15, 2017 3:47:06 GMT
Like the ABBA Megarate on the old forum, the purpose of this is to sum up how popular each song is and it is like a competition for each song. I don't think it's going to be easily achievable. Looking through the ones so far, most tracks have been given a 7, 8, 9 or 10 so you're inevitably going to have tracks tied, or at least very close together. Why don't you a try doing a spreadsheet of all the scores so far, so you can see how it's looking? You can simply add any new ones into it that are done from now as all the formulas will be there. I don't know if you were on the A4E forum, but whenever anyone did a Top 100 on there, one of the members did a spreadsheet and added new scores to it. It was therefore an ongoing thing with no deadlines. Can't remember her name, but she would comment about how the latest one had "deviated" from the average, and how it affected the overall placings. I know I made a mistake with the ABBA Megarate on ABBA Forum in giving similar scores (mostly between 6 and 10). It turned out that others gave much lower scores, which was a good idea as they were rating songs against other ABBA songs, and not everything else. Giving a song a 1 doesn't therefore mean you hate it, but it gives more of a sliding scale and possibly a more interesting final total. |
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Apr 15, 2017 16:11:43 GMT
Right, Alan, Josef, Gary and Orf - Are you going to do this after all?
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Post by chron on Apr 15, 2017 17:23:25 GMT
I can only vote for the tracks of the Something's Going On album, but before I do, I'll have to reacquaint myself with it, since it's been years since I listened to it all the way through and a number of tracks have completely failed to leave a mark on my memory. I'll submit some marks anon...ish.
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on May 25, 2017 18:16:47 GMT
When will anyone do this?
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Post by Michal on May 26, 2017 15:56:13 GMT
It seems that all who were willing to do it have already done so... |
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I guess Alexbury wanted to find out which songs are the most popular here.
