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Post by HOMETIME on Jun 16, 2024 10:11:24 GMT
I hope you get some listener feedback on the tracks, abbafan09 ! Interesting reconstruction, AdamDawson2003 - what do you think of it? I like that the work was put in to building the track but (and it could just be my cloth ears) but it sounds out of tune. All that work can't disguise that it's not a great song. I can understand why they abandoned it after the run-through we saw in the documentary. I'd love it they had worked on The Girl And The Crow - that sounds like it could have been special. I found this English version and wonder if it's the translation that was commissioned for Frida: |
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Post by AdamDawson2003 on Jun 16, 2024 22:00:06 GMT
I love the reconstruction of Shot Down In Action
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Post by Cassie'sSOSLight on Jun 18, 2024 6:55:24 GMT
It would be nice if the other 3 unreleased songs from the Shine sessions were leaked 'I Don't Wanna Be Alone', 'I'm One Of God's Children' & 'My Dearest Friend' this album deserves to have a Deluxe Edition for its 40th Anniversary I prefer it over Something's Going On in my opinion Shine is Frida's best album. I did find it strange that the 2015 Deluxe Edition of 'Something's Going On' didn't include the unreleased song 'Shot Down In Action'. I don't agree, Universal, and many others are well known for this kind of behaviour, why would they care, they don't, mainly cos the ABBA queens don't actually get the respect they deserve from the industry as B&B were the writers and producers. Even they admit that now. I hate to say it but I do not expect them to do ANYTHING with Frida's "Shine" album, whether this year on its 40th anniversary nor on Frida's 80th. If it DOES come out again, there will not be anything new added. In a way it's a pity that 'Slowly' made the cut, cos Gemini got it a year later, and there one is far more the finished article. I don't play it on the album, I move it to what little stuff there is of the 80s non-album ABBA stuff and play it there, and spin 'That's Tough' in its place, seeing as that was the only extra track allowed out. |
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Post by Cassie'sSOSLight on Jun 18, 2024 7:01:56 GMT
This year's 40th anniversary of Shine may be a good reason for releasing the outtakes. What about a nice little box like the one we got for Something's Going On? Sorry, but if we do, and I doubt it, as "Something's Going On" is remembered and respected more, it will be all box and nothing added to the same already out 2005 remaster. We know how record companies work, they've been playing these s8it tricks for decades. They won't even get the Gemini two albums out remastered, now that I do want, including the 2 tracks that should have been put on album but weren't, plus the longer 'Slow Emotion', but I want the original 'Copy Love', not the appalling 2005 reworked version. But all these Frida extra stuff would be lovely, and to add 'As Long As I Have You' with Ratata too it, too, but they just won't care any more than they did in the 80s-and let's be honest, most ABBA fans wanted the girls back with ABBA, not doing solo work! So we're now suffering for the losers back then, but even with ABBA, unreleased stuff hardly ever gets let out the vault, so this'd like happen anyway. Oh yeah-IT IS! |
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Post by Alan on Jun 18, 2024 10:57:24 GMT
Not sure Universal is to blame here. It depends on the artist/who’s in charge of it (in this case, Polar) and location/quality of the tapes. Universal is releasing a 6-CD set for The Police‘s Sychronicity album with lots of previously unreleased stuff on. I’m not a Police fan but I’d be lapping this up if I was. For whatever reasons, this won’t be done for any of ABBA’s albums, let alone solo stuff. superdeluxeedition.com/news/the-police-synchronicity-6cd-box-set/ |
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Post by baab on Jun 18, 2024 19:03:14 GMT
I wouldn't say that all music labels are the same and within Universal, Universal Sweden with Mia Segulsson are the ones which manage ABBA and the Polar Solo works.
I find it very strange that Agnetha did not get the same treat as Frida did. Maybe it is a personal thing.
Sony Music as owner of the Cupol Label has, in my opinion, done a very good Job with all of the Agnetha work für Cupol.
With the unreleased stuff, I think the Artist should have the final say. If Frida thinks, the unreleased songs are not good enough and/or she is not satisfied with her own artistic work, then it should not be released.
We fans don't have the right to get every snippet of recordings just because it exists.
However, the artist may change his/her mind later on...
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Post by abbafan09 on Jun 18, 2024 21:00:03 GMT
Link to my duet with Chris Rea and Frida on this When love turns to lies WeTransfer link here up for 7 days only get while its up. we.tl/t-q3bXLlTSk2 |
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Post by jchanabbafan on Jun 19, 2024 10:57:41 GMT
Firstly could I say that I really appreciate people such as yourself that can remix and/or manipulate songs. But this cannot be the final version can it ? Unless my download is corrupt it sounds like both versions are playing over each other and the result is not pleasant.
It's easy to see why songs such as these were not on the released lp - they are really not very good. As has been said before, both 'Shot Down in Action' and 'I Don't Wanna Be Alone' are much better - better even than 'The Face' and the even worse 'Twist in the Dark' - there are a few gems on the record but not those 2. Rant over !! Call it covid inspired as I have that right now :-( keep well everyone.
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Post by HOMETIME on Jun 19, 2024 14:26:58 GMT
^ Each to their own: The Face and Twist In The Dark are two of my absolute favourites.
I think that with respect to Frida and Agnetha, it's their decisions that make the difference. For instance, Frida nixed a compilation request as well as the inclusion of unreleased material on the remastered Shine. I've said it before, but I'm baffled that Agnetha's WYAAM didn't get the box-set treatment. I wonder if it had anything to do with its milestone anniversaries being so close to the release of A (30 years) and A+ (40 years)? Maybe she didn't want to dilute attention for those releases...? Maybe?
At the risk of being too repetitive, I understand people's view that if Frida didn't want to release the tracks, then her decision should be respected. But whether we like it or not, Pandora's box is open when it comes to CBS and WLTTL. YouTube can play whack-a-mole with videos, but so many people have downloaded MP3s that they can only lose the war. Given that a number of people were willing to spend something in the region of €200 for a pair of bootleg singles to get the tracks, it should show Universal (and Frida) that there is a market for a limited edition release. At least that quashes the bootleggers' ability to cash in on her recordings.
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Post by Cassie'sSOSLight on Jul 1, 2024 21:21:21 GMT
That review is great, baab . Thanks for sharing. I think it might be the only review ever to comment favourably on the sleeve design. I agree: I've always been baffled that Agnetha's WYAAM, at least, didn't get a box set like SGO. She's released compilations and new music, so she's hardly shy about releasing music. Maybe the SGO box had more to do with Frida's landmark birthday? I hope I'm remembering this correctly but, from what was written at the time, it seems to have been initiated and pushed by Gorel? Or maybe that was the commissioning of the remixes. Either way, the project was a real treat and it's evidence that fans would buy more of the same. A box for an expanded Shine would/could offer so much more than the last box. And it's not as though a project like this would demand more of Frida than okaying the sleeve notes and photos. She can stay at home with her feet up in front of Bridgerton, and let the retro mags, blogs and websites promote it. It'd sell out in a flash. I'm sadly not surprised, as right from the start, no one wanted the thought of the girls recording outside ABBA, it was more a "they can't exist without the blokes and nor should they"-such a lousy attitude would be questioned now, but wasn't ever then. At least with Agnetha's 1st two solo albums, all the (that we know of) B-sides/non-album tracks were added to the albums, whereas there was never anything added to "Something's Going On"-just a thankfully Collins-less 'Here We'll Stay' that should've been on the album anyway. No B-sides/outtakes at all, they weren't considered keeping I guess, and while, thankfully, the "Shine" unreleased ones sound like they WERE kept, I can't see Universal giving a damn to sanction a special release of a brilliant but unappreciated album any more than they will for Kim Wilde's unreleased 1998 album which the woman would now like out. But it's a nice thought it might happen, we need to hold that, but unless Frida gets reminded enough of it, should she have the power to also do anything about it, it's all up to the labels as usual, and we know what they're like! |
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