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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 12:42:23 GMT
My favourite ABBA song of all time but I have 2 questions. 1. What is she signing about ? What comes tomorrow ? 2. Silly question but why does it only take her 1 hour 15 minutes to get to work but takes 3 hours to get home. I’m sure getting some Chinese food to go wouldn’t take that long. So where has she been.
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Post by Michal on Sept 17, 2018 19:35:17 GMT
There were many theories, who the "You" was. But I guess she's talking about a man, who turned her dull life upside down, made her realize how trivial it had been… It's not on a happy note she reflects on it as he's gone again and she's facing the fact that she will lead the same kind of life as before she met him and she's now well aware that it wasn't any good. As for the second question… I think that "opening her front door at 8 o'clock" doesn't mean she arrived home so late. She just went out to buy some "Chinese food to go" just to get back in time to watch Dallas ;-)
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Post by janabbafan on Apr 5, 2024 19:19:23 GMT
As expected, we non-UK types can't vote. Gosh, sob, etc. That goes to my mind now. This forum is actually too much an English forum. For UK people. It took me some time to discover this. There was the discussion about "The day before you came" and "Under attack" being flops in the UK. They were not in Holland. They were in the top 5. So: I realise that when I read this forum, I must be aware that it is (only) how the Britts are looking to ABBA. A huge fanbase though. But not representing the complete fanbase. So, that was all I wanted to say. Also a bit referring to that BBC radio 2 annoucement about huge ABBA news. Of course we read that "news" in Holland. But: it was really left ear in and right ear out. And still:I keep myself constantly checking all new on this forum as well. But: IT IS SOOOO BRITISH, REALLY.
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Post by Alan on Apr 5, 2024 19:47:35 GMT
This forum is actually too much an English forum. For UK people. It took me some time to discover this. There was the discussion about "The day before you came" and "Under attack" being flops in the UK. They were not in Holland. They were in the top 5. So: I realise that when I read this forum, I must be aware that it is (only) how the Britts are looking to ABBA. A huge fanbase though. But not representing the complete fanbase. So, that was all I wanted to say. Also a bit referring to that BBC radio 2 annoucement about huge ABBA news. That’s a bit unfair? Belgium and the Netherlands were the most loyal of ABBA markets and you pretty much made anything number one. Even Head Over Heels, one of only two countries to even make it top 10 within the ones covered by the Wikipedia ABBA discography. So, compared to Head Over Heels at number one (second single from The Visitors, after the album release), a number 5 [edit - later correction: number 3] placing for The Day Before You Came (a brand new single) is STILL a decline. Head Over Heels was number 25 in the UK, so The Day Before You Came at 32 is relatively comparable with the Netherlands. And in the UK, Under Attack did better at number 26, whereas in the Netherlands it did worse than its predecessor, at number 7. We assumed that this ABBA announcement was something “huge” as was claimed, such as a worldwide release of unreleased track(s). The fact that we thought the BBC had the exclusive on the reveal was entirely coincidental. Nothing whatsoever with being UK-centric. We just hoped that the BBC had been chosen as the platform for a major announcement, but had it been anywhere else it would have made no difference. But, in any case, it wasn’t to be.
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Post by johnny on Apr 5, 2024 19:55:58 GMT
Sone of us have pointed out to The Day Before You Came being Top 5 in quite a few European countries.
The Netherland's population is about a quarter of the UK's. I doubt if sales generally were as high as a quarter of the UK's. Get over your grievances,janabbafan mate.
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Post by janabbafan on Apr 5, 2024 19:58:53 GMT
It wasn't an ABBA announcement. It was a person from BBC Radio 2 annoucement. BTW: "The day before you came" peaked at 3 in Holland. And "Under attack"at 5.
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Post by johnny on Apr 5, 2024 20:05:59 GMT
Dutch Top 40 chart
Head Over Heels #4 TDBYC #3 UA #5
Dutch Top 100 chart HOH #1 TDBYC #3 UA #7
Pity you don't know your charts.
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Post by janabbafan on Apr 5, 2024 20:09:15 GMT
Sone of us have pointed out to The Day Before You Came being Top 5 in quite a few European countries. The Netherland's population is about a quarter of the UK's. I doubt if sales generally were as high as a quarter of the UK's. Get over your grievances,janabbafan mate. There we go again, a person who thinks that ABBA only had fans in the UK. That single "The day before you came" was a big hit in Holland and more countries, not in UK. I don't know the reason why it was not big in UK. That doesn't matter.
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Post by Alan on Apr 5, 2024 20:37:34 GMT
It wasn't an ABBA announcement. It was a person from BBC Radio 2 annoucement. BTW: "The day before you came" peaked at 3 in Holland. And "Under attack"at 5. It was claimed to be an “ABBA announcement” beforehand, so that’s what we thought it would be. It was indeed a Radio 2 announcement. Yep, I stand corrected on The Day Before You Came, it was number 3. The number 5 was West Germany. But STILL a decline compared to what went before. This forum is no more UK-centric than you are anti-UK. I would not consider a number 32 placing a “flop” in any case. Not great for ABBA but the decline had been slowed. It was Head Over Heels that marked the drop. A genuine “flop” is a single that doesn’t make the top 75 or whatever, though it’s acceptable to use the term for a single that doesn’t make the top 40.
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Post by Alan on Apr 5, 2024 20:43:11 GMT
Dutch Top 40 chart Head Over Heels #4 TDBYC #3 UA #5 Dutch Top 100 chart HOH #1 TDBYC #3 UA #7 I know you’re right on this, johnny, as I’ve read it before but for those of us that don’t understand the logic, why are the chart positions different? And which is “official”? I’m assuming the one that has Head Over Heels at number one, being as it’s the one Wikipedia uses. Is it like the UK “network” chart (as it was once known - no idea what it’s called now, or even if it still exists) compared with the official chart?
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Post by Michel on Apr 5, 2024 20:53:06 GMT
So, compared to Head Over Heels at number one (second single from The Visitors, after the album release), a number 5 [edit - later correction: number 3] placing for The Day Before You Came (a brand new single) is STILL a decline. Personally, I didn't see that as a decline. It was more ore less comparable to 1978 which was a lesser year for ABBA chartwise in the Netherlands. Summer Night City (which was a brand new single as well) stalled at number 5 in the Top 40 and only number 10 in the National Hitparade. The preceding single Eagle got to number 4 in the Top 40 and number 7 in the National Hitparade. The most puzzling aspect of ABBA's Dutch chart succes was the relative 'failure' of Mamma Mia. While it restored them to the top of the charts in several countries, it was one of their least succesful singles in the Netherlands, peaking at number 13 in the Top 40 and number 12 in the National Hitparade (in that last chart it only managed 4 weeks in the charts).
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Post by Michel on Apr 5, 2024 20:58:15 GMT
why are the chart positions different? If I remember correctly the Dutch Top 100 (National Hitparade) was more based on pure sales and the Dutch Top 40 also took other aspects into account (airplay, overall popularity).
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Post by Tinneke on Apr 6, 2024 7:58:06 GMT
Argentina [58] 6 Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[60] 16 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[61] 3 Bolivia (UPI)[62] 9 Canada Adult Contemporary (RPM)[63] 5 Finland (Suomen virallinen lista)[64] 1 Ireland (IRMA)[65] 12 Netherlands (Dutch Top 40)[66] 3 Netherlands (Single Top 100)[67] 3 Norway (VG-lista)[68] 5 Spain (AFYVE)[69] 29 Sweden (Sverigetopplistan)[70] 3 Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[71] 4 UK Singles (OCC)[72] 32 West Germany (Official German Charts)[73] 5
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Post by johnny on Apr 6, 2024 9:20:21 GMT
Looks like those are The Day Before You Came chart positions. First number a reference (wikipedia?), second chart peak.
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Post by Tiger76 on Apr 6, 2024 10:06:10 GMT
Like everyone else I was underwhelmed/annoyed at the totally misleading Radio 2 fiasco yesterday. The BBC prides itself of fact checking (allegedly) on BBC Verify and should be ashamed.
We then are stuck with another poll for our favourite Abba song, not that anyone is forcing us to participate. However, what I found really depressing yesterday were posts slamming TDBYC immediately after the announcement, accusations of past polls being rigged so it performed well, and the hostile reaction to a post by janabbafan. I hope janabbafan realises that their posts are very welcome and it’s good to get a non-UK perspective from time to time.
Why can’t people accept that others may like TDBYC or even TFTPOO and let them enjoy the music without the unnecessary negativity?
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Post by Alan on Apr 6, 2024 10:17:17 GMT
You’ve missed the point entirely, Tiger76. No one was slamming The Day Before You Came. The point that was being made that it’s supposed to be the nation’s favourite ABBA song, not fans giving five votes to one song (though that is allowed). And there was no hostile reaction to janabbafan’s post, but again they were missing the point, and expressed what I considered to be anti-UK sentiment when it was uncalled for, and therefore I defended the forum. Worse, they thought they were agreeing with Hometime, when he made no such comments, he was merely stating a fact. If you don’t post much on here and then come on with an attitude, expect to be responded to in the same manner. In any case, I do like Two For The Price of One (and The Day Before You Came for that matter) so if your comment was aimed at me, it misfired. Also, the forum is actually Australian and the admin is from that part of the world. OK, still Anglosphere or whatever you’d want to call it, but, hey, it’s an English-language forum!
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Post by johnny on Apr 6, 2024 11:08:03 GMT
Argentina [58] 6 Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[60] 16 Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[61] 3 Bolivia (UPI)[62] 9 Canada Adult Contemporary (RPM)[63] 5 Finland (Suomen virallinen lista)[64] 1 Ireland (IRMA)[65] 12 Netherlands (Dutch Top 40)[66] 3 Netherlands (Single Top 100)[67] 3 Norway (VG-lista)[68] 5 Spain (AFYVE)[69] 29 Sweden (Sverigetopplistan)[70] 3 Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[71] 4 UK Singles (OCC)[72] 32 West Germany (Official German Charts)[73] 5 I believe it was also Top 5 in Denmark (#3 I think) giving 8 Top 5 placings in Europe. But only one of those a big market, Germany. Just discovered it was #1 in Finland. That Wotldwide Chart List site gives #2.
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