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Post by abbaprofessor on Jun 18, 2019 15:16:57 GMT
These are things I have seen in Swedish press
1. Appearently, at one point he said " That lazy Agnetha should be grateful for all her millions. Not a bad achievement for a mediocre dance band singer "
2- Long after the Abba split . Who was your favourite member ? " Frida, Hon var rakryggad ". The Swedish word rakryggad is a compliment and has a double meaning. Literally, it means somebody who has " a straight back " that meaning good posture. It also means you are reliable and speak no stuff of others.
3. When Björn and Agnetha divorced. " Glad they made that decision finally. The marriage has not stood straight for years"
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Post by Alan on Jun 18, 2019 16:23:08 GMT
I’d be careful about believing what the press said, from whatever country. Also it’s possible the translation makes if sound more harsh than actually intended.
Also, when did he say that? Björn, Benny and Agnetha took him to court in the very early 1990s. If he really did say the first one, was it around that time or just after? Also, he didn’t like the fact that for the first few years of ABBA, she was signed to another record company and only appeared on ABBA recordings by courtesy of them. Once under his wing (from 1976) she did remain there for 10 years. The business relationship couldn’t have been that acrimonious.
Frida was always quite close to him and as she was the only one not to take him to court, it’s understandable he would say nice things about her.
The third one is no real revelation. That’s pretty much the story we’ve always been given.
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Post by Michal on Jun 18, 2019 16:33:51 GMT
Alan, you're right that the first statement was made at the time when Björn, Benny and Agnetha filed lawsuit against Stig - he was full of bitterness as he took it as a betrayal from their part. And Frida remained out of it all, hence the second statement. The third one I've never heard before but it's really not that suprising, is it?
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Post by josef on Jun 18, 2019 17:05:34 GMT
I don't know about anybody else but I find that first quote hysterically funny- "that lazy Agnetha" 😆 whether true or not, it's very funny and all water under the bridge now.
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Post by richard on Jun 18, 2019 17:53:19 GMT
What interests me is why Frida didn't join the other three. Presumably she would have had a similar case against Stig? I guess it's explained in the book Bright Lights, Dark Shadows, which I haven't read.
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Post by Michal on Jun 18, 2019 18:21:42 GMT
What interests me is why Frida didn't join the other three. Presumably she would have had a similar case against Stig? I guess it's explained in the book Bright Lights, Dark Shadows, which I haven't read. Frida sold her rights to the ABBA recordings in the early 80s, so she had no interest in the matter whatsoever. The other three members of ABBA still received the royalties from the sales of ABBA's back catalogue and they felt they were deceived by Stig, who promised to raise their royalties but didn't do it. It is indeed very well explained in Bright Lights, Dark Shadows but it's actually not clear who was right in the lawsuit and it was finally settled out of court under unknown terms. The truth is that Stig probably never forgave them and the their relationships remained reserved. Agnetha later commented that the whole process was "a pity end to a successful collaboration", so she probably regretted what they were forced to go through.
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Post by Michal on Jun 18, 2019 18:30:24 GMT
I don't know about anybody else but I find that first quote hysterically funny- "that lazy Agnetha" 😆 whether true or not, it's very funny and all water under the bridge now. I'm quite sure he didn't really mean it, he just needed to make an offensive remark in his wrath :-) It definitely sounds funny today...
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Post by josef on Jun 18, 2019 18:36:27 GMT
Yes, we've all said things we don't really mean out of hurt or anger.
I've read BLDS but for the life of me I can't remember much about it. I can't recall if they all made up and buried the hatchet before Stig died? I hope so.
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Post by richard on Jun 18, 2019 18:45:02 GMT
Thanks for explaining that, Josef.
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Post by Alan on Jun 18, 2019 18:51:14 GMT
What interests me is why Frida didn't join the other three. Presumably she would have had a similar case against Stig? I guess it's explained in the book Bright Lights, Dark Shadows, which I haven't read. Yes it was. Frida sold her shares in Polar in 1982 before they dived. It’s stated in that book that she made a killing on them (or words to that effect). Agnetha sold up a year later but this was after the company’s financial difficulties had become apparent, so although her shares were equal in number to Frida’s, she didn’t make anywhere near as much from them. Frida, by chance, sold at the best time. Her closeness to Stig and the fact that she did extremely well out of it meant there was no real need for her to join her former colleagues.
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Post by richard on Jun 18, 2019 19:14:34 GMT
Thanks, Alan
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Post by Alan on Jun 18, 2019 21:44:41 GMT
I’ve found the exact paragraph in the book:
“By a stroke of luck, when Frida emigrated [to England at first] and divested herself of all her business interests in Sweden, she managed to sell her shares in the ill-fated Kuben [company Polar invested in] at exactly the right time. The value of the shares had fluctuated dramatically ever since they were purchased at 35 kronor per share. When Frida sold her shares the price was 255 kronor and she made a killing on the deal.
“The rest of the group wasn’t so lucky. When Stig and the remaining three ABBA members finally sold their shares in October 1983, the price had fallen to 25 kronor per share, lower than the 35 kronor purchase price. Together they received 5.2 million kronor but the highest total of their combined shares had been 62 million kronor.”
I confused Kuben with Polar shares in my earlier post, but I’m assuming Polar’s share price was also higher when Frida sold up than it was when the others did.
The book also states: “Although Frida had technically sold her royalties to an outside company, it was, in all likelihood, a company controlled by herself, so she was as much a part of the lawsuit as the other ABBA members.”
This appears to be true. Though widely reported as being just the three of them versus Stig, it was apparently all four but each was through their own companies. Frida’s was Chaperon (UK) Ltd, a British-registered company owned by Swiss investors. Agnetha’s was more obvious - Agnetha Fältskog Produktion AB. Björn’s was Batrax Rotterdam BV (Dutch company) and Benny’s was MM Mono Music AB.
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Post by abbaprofessor on Jun 19, 2019 14:57:40 GMT
I am not Swedish but happen to be bilingual with Swedish as the other language. Actually, lots has been written about Abba in Sweden that I have never seen translated to English. Agnetha did not attend Stig´s funeral. She sent flowers with the text A last greeting . Agnetha and the chikdren . I saw pictures in Swedish press. She did , that same year, attend the funeral of Ted Gärdestad. She looked shaken, teary -eyed and emotional in the pictures published in the press. What the public did not know at the time TG developed schizophrenia and killed himself. She probably knew.
Highly revealing she went to Ted´s funeral when he "only" wrote some songs for her solo albums in the 70s but not to her managers´s of 10 years.
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Post by josef on Jun 19, 2019 15:47:00 GMT
^It's not revealing at all. No one knows why Agnetha didn't go to Stig's funeral and that's her business. She might have been ill at the time for all we know. Besides, there are no rules that say someone HAS to go to a funeral, it's purely a personal choice. Everybody's different.
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Post by Michal on Jun 19, 2019 16:21:59 GMT
josef, I remember Stig's funeral very well and Agnetha was ill indeed. At least that's what she said at the time - she apologized and sent the flowers. If I remember it right, the text on them was "Tack och farväl" i.e. "Thank you and farewell!"
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Post by Michal on Jun 19, 2019 18:47:08 GMT
Highly revealing she went to Ted´s funeral when he "only" wrote some songs for her solo albums in the 70s but not to her managers´s of 10 years. Ted not only wrote some songs for her solo albums (actually, I don't think he's ever written anything for her, it was his brother Kenneth, who contributed lyrics to her songs now and then)… he was very close to the ABBA members at the beginning of his career. Björn and Benny produced his first albums, Agnetha and Frida sang backing vocals on them, Ted was a close friend of Michael Tretow, so they all met regularly…
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Post by Alan on Jun 19, 2019 19:15:53 GMT
josef, I remember Stig's funeral very well and Agnetha was ill indeed. At least that's what she said at the time - she apologized and sent the flowers. If I remember it right, the text on them was "Tack och farväl" i.e. "Thank you and farewell!" Were you there?
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Post by Michal on Jun 19, 2019 19:35:18 GMT
No... but as I read my post now it might have given that impression indeed :-) But I remember it so well because in 1996 was a year when I became a member of the Czech ABBA Fan Club. They had some problems at the time unfortunately and there was a very long break between the issues of the magazines they published. And the first magazine after the pause (and actually only the second issue I received) was full of tragic news - the fatal car accident of Frida's daughter and Stig's passing. There was a very detailed account of Stig's funeral and it somehow got stuck in my memory probably because that particular issue of the magazine was kind of important for me. I don't really recall what was in the next one at all… :-)
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Post by richard on Jun 19, 2019 20:33:20 GMT
Thanks for finding the relevant passage in BLDS, Alan, about the lawsuit against Stig. I wonder if Stig knew of Frida's (less direct?) participation in the group's action against him?. Assuming he did know, it's puzzling that he apparently kept on better terms with Frida than he did with the other three. Maybe it bothered him less because he regarded it more of an impersonal 'technical/procedural' matter in Frida's case than it was with the other three. Pity it came to that.
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Post by Alan on Jun 19, 2019 21:34:54 GMT
The BBC’s The Money Programme reported on ABBA’s financial difficulties (and particularly Kuben) in September 1983. This was how I learnt about it. The seeds of the later legal action were sown here I think.
Inexplicably in three parts, even though the entire report is under 16 minutes long.
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Post by Alan on Jun 19, 2019 22:10:49 GMT
Thanks for finding the relevant passage in BLDS, Alan, about the lawsuit against Stig. I wonder if Stig knew of Frida's (less direct?) participation in the group's action against him?. Assuming he did know, it's puzzling that he apparently kept on better terms with Frida than he did with the other three. Maybe it bothered him less because he regarded it more of an impersonal 'technical/procedural' matter in Frida's case than it was with the other three. Pity it came to that. Wikipedia doesn’t mention Frida’s company. I’d like to believe Carl Magnus Palm properly researched everything in his book and that whoever wrote the Wikipedia article is either mistaken or was editing it on behalf of Frida’s people. Palm doesn’t say for definite that the other company involved was Frida’s, but “in all likelihood” it was controlled by her. So for “Swiss investors” he’s reading Frida herself. Wikipedia: “A complaint against Anderson was submitted to the Stockholm District Court in June 1990 by Agnetha Fältskog's company Agnetha Fältskog Produktion AB, Benny Andersson's company Mono Music AB, as well as a Dutch company holding Björn Ulvaeus's rights. The dispute was eventually settled out of court in July 1991; the terms of the settlement remain undisclosed. “In 1982, Anni-Frid Lyngstad had sold all the shares in the Polar Music company given to her by Anderson, as she moved abroad. She remains the only member never to seek legal recourse for past royalty fees and was not involved in any way with the legal proceedings against Anderson.”
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Post by Alan on Jun 20, 2019 5:18:09 GMT
I will add that I have what I think is the latest version of CMP’s book (2014). If he was wrong about Frida, there was plenty of opportunity for him to be corrected prior to this edition (unless this particular revelation was new to this edition).
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