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Post by AdamDawson2003 on Nov 13, 2019 18:38:25 GMT
ABBA's 1980 Spanish album 'Gracias Por La Musica' celebrates its 40th Anniversary in 2020 so could it get the half speed master treatment and this album is long overdue a re-issue on Vinyl, the Deluxe Edition released in 2014 basically confirmed its a regular studio album, Oro was released on Vinyl in 2018 so no reason why 'Gracias Por La Musica' couldn't get a Vinyl re-issue.
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Post by HOMETIME on Nov 13, 2019 19:56:51 GMT
The thing is that Oro is just Gracias Por La Musica with different artwork and five bonus tracks. If they were to take the half-speed route, I suppose it would be a good opportunity to restore the original running order and artwork (which I personally think is hideous). But it would be a nice treat for completists.
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Post by gazman on Feb 21, 2020 12:43:46 GMT
I agree that it would be good to consider a half-speed remaster of 'Gracias Por La Musica' if they wanted to invest in doing that, although I suppose the demand for it would be less than for one of ABBA's 'regular' studio albums.
Let's be honest, the expanded 'GPLM' is effectively the same as the expanded 'ABBA ORO', though - and, since the latter has already come out on vinyl, I would suspect that Polar will be happy to leave it at that - with both the respective CD/DVD and vinyl packages remaining available.
I would quite like ABBA to re-visit some of their other compilations - although, with the recording of new songs, I wonder if instead they will be tempted to go for a brand new 'best of' which incorporates new material? I'm not sure - 'ABBA GOLD' has been such an effective brand that I doubt whether they would want to 'kill it off'...the next couple of years in 'ABBA marketing' will be quite interesting I think...
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Post by Alan on Feb 21, 2020 22:45:58 GMT
By “other compilations” do you mean the historical ones released when ABBA were active, gazman? Namely Greatest Hits, Greatest Hits Vol 2 and The Singles? I’d prefer re-releases of those than any new compilation. Gold has the market sewn up - any new greatest hits that’s come along (The Definitive/Essential Collection, Number Ones) was swiftly shown the door. And don’t get me started on those numerous cheapo ones (16 Hits etc etc). The historical ones have the nostalgia factor. Zero interest in terms of content but would be quite nice to see the original artwork in modern CD packaging (and vinyl as well). Some strict stipulations though: 1) Re-creations of original artwork. No dodgy scans (and sadly every use of exact original artwork has failed miserably in this respect so far). 2) Park bench artwork for Greatest Hits as per UK or US release. Not that scary painting. 3) Oh, and UK running order (Fernando at the end, not the beginning). 4) No bonus tracks. Vinyl couldn’t take it anyway but this is about reissuing original compilations, not your own personal version of them (sorry, AdamDawson2003) If those four criteria not met then quite frankly they needn’t bother! |
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Post by Michal on Feb 22, 2020 8:00:57 GMT
1) Re-creations of original artwork. No dodgy scans (and sadly every use of exact original artwork has failed miserably in this respect so far). Are not the half-speed mastered albums done this way? And if I remember it correctly The Vinyls box set was as well. However you're right that most of the re-releases are regrettably bad in this respect, namely the box sets of coloured singles and the solo albums. I was terribly dissapointed by the reissues of Agnetha's Cupol albums, which I bought basically for the artwork only to find out the original releases from the 70s look much better... |
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Post by gazman on Feb 22, 2020 8:43:24 GMT
Alan - yes, I was thinking of those original compilations, but it is a pipe dream really. I don't think there is any interest from ABBA in doing it. I guess there would not be much profit to be made.
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Post by Alan on Feb 22, 2020 17:09:03 GMT
1) Re-creations of original artwork. No dodgy scans (and sadly every use of exact original artwork has failed miserably in this respect so far). Are not the half-speed mastered albums done this way? And if I remember it correctly The Vinyls box set was as well. I don’t have the half-speed ones but every ABBA vinyl I’ve picked up to nosey at in HMV seems to be slightly blurry. There’s a lack of clarity in the lettering and text which is a definite scan giveaway. If they were true recreations then The Visitors wouldn’t be able to have its original photo as the negative is allegedly lost (the main CD issues use an alternate shot). The same is also the case with the Waterloo shot. If those two albums in that box you mention are the original photos, then I’m afraid they’re scans. I’ve only got one modern ABBA vinyl re-issue and that’s Ring Ring - the lack of sharpness in that artwork is absolutely appalling to my eyes. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 18:40:12 GMT
I agree with Adam Dawson regarding his views on a " Gracias Por La Musica " ( II ) " wishlist " CD. It would have been interesting if more songs had been recorded in Spanish. Tracks that I have in mind include WIKTT, SOS, TNOTG, E, IIWFTN, KOF, TWTIA, OLS, OOU, TV, TDBYC, " Cassandra ", HOH, ST, TACOM and TM. There are so many contenders. However, Bjorn and Benny would definitely disagree with me !
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Post by Alan on Feb 23, 2020 9:02:40 GMT
I would imagine it all came down to time available. It’s clear that they allowed two songs per album for the last three. They then retrospectively (for the Gracias project) did two songs each for the middle two albums. The second and third albums got just one track each and Ring Ring was in the can from 1973. Finally two non-album singles got the Spanish treatment.
Although they were using their own studios from 1979, so no commercial studio costs, it still would have taken up time and resources that could be better spent on recording new songs.
However, it’s telling that for the four originally-released 1982 songs, not one Spanish version was recorded. As Cassandra and You Owe Me One only had b-side homes, those two would be out of the equation. It still smacks of ABBA’s general “we really can’t be bothered anymore and want out” attitude of 1982 though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 17:20:37 GMT
Thanks Alan, for replying to my thread. I get the impression that my views over the past few days are shunned by other members. Why I don't know. Maybe my thoughts are not interesting or relevant enough. I feel like I am the odd one out on this forum !
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Post by AdamDawson2003 on Jun 23, 2020 16:07:02 GMT
Today marks 40 years since 'Gracias Por La Musica' was released.
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Jun 23, 2020 18:15:48 GMT
It would’ve been nice if they had released something to commemorate the 40th Anniversary. Even if there was a reissue of a Spanish single such as Chiquitita or Estoy Sonando.
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Post by AdamDawson2003 on Jun 23, 2020 22:45:10 GMT
It would’ve been nice if they had released something to commemorate the 40th Anniversary. Even if there was a reissue of a Spanish single such as Chiquitita or Estoy Sonando. Re-releasing a half speed master of the Gracias Por La Musica album would have been lovely |
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