These sort of sales transported back to the 70s 8os would have given them top 5 status. Of course I think the Abba versions would have fared even better at the time of their origin. Unlike some other artists Abba did not milk albums dry for singles apart from maybe Abba album . Had they done so I think there would have been at least another 12 songs that could have been top 5 , maybe even a few more number ones amongst them. Those in my list would have been When I kissed the Teacher, My love My Life, Eagle, Hole in Your Soul, As Good as New, If it wasn't for the nights, Andante andante, Happy New Year, On and on and on, The Visitors and Slipping Through my fingers. The latter should have been released on 2008 at the time of the first movie. It was a big hit with mothers and daughters. That I am sure could have the topped charts then. And of course a big mistake in not releasing Honey Honey in the UK in early 1975.
Post by onlyabba4meagain on Jun 14, 2021 16:28:30 GMT
It is very unusual, for so many Songs, from a 'Musical', to sell so many copies, in the UK. The Songs, from 'Grease', in 1978, sold many more, than 200,000 each. 'You're The One That I Want', and 'Summer Nights', sold well over a UK Million. 'Sandy', by John Travolta, sold about 500,000, in the UK. Olivia Newton-John's, 'Hopelessly Devoted To You', sold over 300,000 here. 'Grease', by Frankie Valli, sold over 250,000, in the UK. 1978, also, saw, several Bee Gees Songs, and other Artists Songs, sell 100's of 1000's, as UK 'Singles, from 'Saturday Night Fever'. But, it is very unusual, for Songs, that have previously been Hits, for another Artist, (ABBA, in this case!), to sell over 200,000 each, as Tracks from a Hit Film. It is usually, brand New, Film Songs, that achieve that. (Like various Songs, from 'The Greatest Showman', in 2017 and 2018).
It just shows the popularity of the 2 movies with so many silver songs. I imagine I am not alone in thinking who on earth would want to listen to the Mamma Mia 2 version of When I kissed the teacher when you could listen to Abba's far superior original version.
Maybe I should put the 2 soundtrack CDs on as they have been gathering dust for many years now. Or maybe not.
Post by onlyabba4meagain on Jul 30, 2022 7:57:16 GMT
There are still a great many People, (usually under 40), who have never heard the ABBA Originals of 'Mamma Mia' etc. They only know the 'Mamma Mia!' Films Covers. A lot of those People are from the USA. I sometimes wonder if Atlantic Records really Promoted ABBA, in the USA, as much as they should have. ABBA really should have been much bigger there than they were.
^^ Spot on, Colin. I still can't believe that shedloads of money (some of it Polar's, I imagine) was thrown at that "ABBA month" campaign in 1978, and absolutely nothing was done after the group left the country. A follow-up single to build on TACOM's Top 3 success would have been the bare minimum, I'd have thought. There were at least two tracks on The Album that might have appealed to American audiences at the time: OMOW and/or Eagle. Maybe even HIYS (a song I find much less convincing, personally). Either/both single(s) could have further promoted The Album, and bought Atlantic and ABBA some time, allowing the release of Summer Night City to be pushed closer to the eventual release of Voulez-Vous. (I'm imagining that it could have been added to the US version of the album, or something).
I also think Atlantic didn't promote ABBA properly. Yes, that mega promotion in May 1978 was wasted. Eagle was released and then withdrawn, SNC not released and Chiquitita not released until the end of 1979.
Quite a few songs have silver certification in the UK - and more sales than the original ABBA songs. That is just wrong!
Onlyabba4meagain, 3 more certifications. All Silver and all from first Mamma Mia! film
11. Mamma Mia - Meryl Sreep 20/08/21 12. Dancing Queen - Original Cast Recording 10/06/22 13. Our Last Summer - Original Cast Recording 11/02/22
13. Our Last Summer - Original Cast Recording 11/02/22
This bit sticks out for me. We're now in a place where individual album tracks - as opposed to officially released singles - can get precious-metal certificiation. As popular as the MM franchise is, would the streams of OLS on the soundtrack actually outstrip the vastly superior original? Relying on onlyabba4meagain's excellent grasp of that part of the industry here, but have ABBA's non-single album tracks had this kind of certification too?
As for the expensive American non-starter, I wonder if there were some transatlantic heated exchanges by phone as the end of the year beckoned? Stig never struck me as a man you'd want to be on the wrong side of. This is precisely the kind of thing I'd imagine being explored in CMP's forthcoming book - isn't it all about how the records were released and promoted (or have I got it arseways again?)?
I think Stig also worked with people he saw loyal and trustworthy, perhaps this is reason he didn’t leave Atlantic, I did read somewhere that someone thought Atlantic was an odd choice for a pop act as they were renowned for signing soul acts.
Hometime - you ask, albeit to OnlyAbbaformeagain, if ABBA's non singles received (Uk) certifications.
The answer is "No". Only ABBA's 19 Originsl Top 10 singles and the minor hit Thank You For the Music have received certifications. The latter being downloads/streaming and also SOS and LAYLOM which didn't get physical certifications back on the day. Waterloo and The Winner Takes it All didn't get certifications then - even though they were eligible then. Don't Shut Me Down is more than half way to being Silver
But 100% agree with you about ABBA album tracks not getting certifications while MM ABBA album tracks do not.
I recall we had this conversation about When All is Said and Done being more familiar because of that bloody awful Pierce Brosnan version than that great ABBA original.
If you awake in the midst of the night with what seems like a Sonic Boom, well it won't be. Just be going "No" for all the world to hear if Pierce gets Silver Disc ahead of ABBA for WAISSD.
Onlyabba4meagain - nice to have you back on board sgain. Hope you are well.
Thanks for that johnny. The certification process is ridiculously inconsistent, then. As for WAISAD, I think that ABBA now have a terrific opportunity to remedy the situation: they could release the retooled version from the Voyage show. If they actually made a full release of it - CD and vinyl, downloads, with a B-side from the show or one of the outtakes from the last album - they could even get a chart placing. Take that, Mr. Brosnan!
Certification process in the UK is indeed inconsistent. But probably the best in the world! Yes, other countries are worse for this!
Back in the day they were for shipments and record companies had to apply for them.
Now they are automatic and based on sales and streaming equivalent sales.
Most countries have the old apply for method. Gold Greatest Hits has for example not been updated in the US since 2002 or since 1999 in Sweden or The Netherlands.
Back to the UK for singles you can't add physical era to digital era sales. But you can for albums. Go figure!
When All is Said and Done would have made a great single. I quite like your idea of having it now as a single with B side. ABBA could release it after announcing no more new songs ever and formally announcing stopping. It won't happen but you can dream.
It's sad that many people only know some great ABBA tracks from Mamma Mia and not ABBA themselves.
My hopes for an updated WAISAD single release is based on my gut feeling that the Voyage shows will spawn a "soundtrack" album and, with that, a single/buzz track to help with promotion. I think it's something they'll need to release ahead of any career-spanning best-of that's likely to appear around 6 April 2024. The cynic in me reckons that's already a done deal. Technically, they could put out any track from the Voyage shows as a single, but from what I can gather, there's precious little difference between most of them and their studio originals.