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Post by truedogz on Jul 16, 2022 10:23:57 GMT
I've just joined the group having enjoyed reading the discussions in this forum.
One thing that has always always interested me is how the four band members (plus others involved in the recordings) have rated or enjoyed the individual recordings. Comments about best recordings or favourites, acknowledging that those two words have a different meaning.
Agnetha and Frida have clearly identified their favourites: The Winner Takes It All and Dancing Queen respectively.
Bjorn has generally been non-committal but in one of the Carl Magnus Palm books a number are identified as "the good ones". So presumably Bjorn as well as Benny had input into those nominated: SOS, Dancing Queen, Knowing Me Knowing You, The Name of The Game and The Winner Takes It All.
Benny has provided a bit of commentary in recent years and it seems to him the standouts are Dancing Queen, Knowing Me Knowing You and The Winner Takes it All. He has said that DQ and KMKY are the two he is most proud of, suggested the latter may be a better recording than DQ, but has also said he enjoys TWTIA for its simplicity. He fairly regularly raises Take a Chance on Me as a good recording.
What other comments have band members made? What about Michael Tretow, has he offered any opinions? The session musicians? Recently the two guitarists involved with the recordings have made comments with SOS and KMKY being suggested as amongst the best.
I'm interested to hear what others have come across and any links to relevant interviews. I can provide links to some of the interviews I have seen.
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 16, 2022 10:59:58 GMT
Good question! And welcome Apart from naming TWTIA as her favourite, I think that Agnetha has gone on record as loving Our Last Summer and That's Me. On the Late, Late Breakfast Show back in 1982 she mentioned Fernando too - but I think the songs mentioned in that interview were "guided" by the producers and the need to promote The Singles - The First Ten Years. Frida seems always to have named Dancing Queen as her favourite. When offered the chance to select an oldie during her BBC Radio interview with Zoe Ball, she chose I Let The Music Speak. In Remko Van Dromgelen's recent biography, Frida speaks glowingly about both The Visitors and Just Like That. In an mid-2000's interview she also mentioned The King Has Lost His Crown as something of a hidden gem. Benny seems to name his favourites in terms of the quality of the recordings. I've seen him repeatedly name check Thank You For The Music, The Winner Takes It All, Knowing Me Knowing You, Money Money Money and Dancing Queen. I have much less of an idea of what Bjorn thinks. He mentioned TKHLHC and Under Attack as under-rated songs in the album launch interview. I think it's possible that TWTIA might be his favourite? A decent music-focused documentary featuring ABBA and their musicians would be a great way of getting to know this kind of stuff. I hope they'll realise there's a need for one soon...
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Post by truedogz on Jul 16, 2022 11:24:09 GMT
Thanks Tony. I recall a number of them saying Our Last Summer is a favourite and it is one I really enjoy. And you are correct in the past some comments were 'managed' to promote the material recently released. It is now in hindsight where I think the comments are genuine and balanced. It would be a great idea to get them together and discuss in a documentary their memories of the songs and their thoughts on them, I'll post a few of Benny's recent comments here. What has struck me is while DQ and TWTIA are the immediate candidates for best recordings he keeps nominating KMKY in the same bracket. I think to some degree KMKY lived a bit in the shadow of DQ but has grown in stature over the years while DQ while a brilliant recording has dated slightly. I wonder if Tretow has had any thoughts publicly. Anyhow some of Benny's thoughts: "Some of the records still sound really good. If you play 'Knowing Me', 'Dancing Queen', 'Take a Chance' ... they could be done last week.'" "With all the hits that Abba produced, Andersson says he is not able to pick out one as a favourite, but he seems particularly proud of Dancing Queen and Knowing Me, Knowing You, which he says were both good songs and good recordings." "I’d say The Winner Takes It All is good. I’d say Knowing Me Knowing You is a great recording. I think Take A Chance On Me is a good recording." Also if people haven't seen them here are interviews with two of the session guitarists: www.guitarworld.com/features/lasse-wellander-abba-voyage-guitaristwww.guitarworld.com/features/abba-janne-schaffer
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Post by lamont on Jul 16, 2022 14:10:00 GMT
ABBA picked their top 5 favourite tracks for Spotify a few years ago? I’m sure I Let The Music Speak and The Visitors appear on a couple.
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 16, 2022 15:02:42 GMT
When it comes to the recordings, some of them are astonishing. Especially compared to other big hits from the same time period. The hit-rate for good recordings is very high on Arrival and The Album. You can hear the air around the instruments on many of the tracks. Hearing Dancing Queen vocals on good headphones is just brilliant. I'd agree that KMKY is a particularly good recording. For all that's going on in the chorus, it never feels crowded or cluttered, and the verses showcase how succinctly they could convey emotion without resorting to histrionics. Although I really don't care for the song, TYFTM is another fantastic recording. In fact, I think the three mini-musical songs are beautifully recorded.
I think they missed the mark ever so slightly with Angeleyes, Lovers and Kisses Of Fire. Angeleyes seems to have had the kitchen sink thrown at it and, if it's played too loud, it can sound a little overwhelming. Lovers is brilliant until the chorus kicks in. I think they needed to come back to the mixing desk just one more time. I'd even argue that if B&B had taken some of the BV duties, they'd have had a really sultry track. I've always really liked KOF, but Agnetha's opening solo is mixed too quietly and the transition to the chorus feels a bit rushed. The chorus itself sounds a little tinny - the bass balance seems a bit lightweight to my ears. In fact, I think all three songs might end up with brilliant new lives if they ended up in the Voyage show with the live band and BVs. We need to get Benny and Bjorn on a group call to thrash this out!
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Post by lamont on Jul 16, 2022 15:32:28 GMT
As a side note, Kisses Of Fire’s first verse has great sensual lyrics until the line “things that you do…” Kinda kills the mood a wee bit. The arrangement of KOF and Angeleyes in Mamma Mia 2 are pretty good and I like the extra bars in the bridge of Angeleyes.
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Post by truedogz on Jul 24, 2022 10:44:42 GMT
I've checked out Spotify to find the 'favourites' for each band member. I think it is quite plausible that they actually selected these as they largely match comments made in the past. Also a favourite might have been selected for personal reasons and has a different meaning from say selecting best recordings. It is interesting that all four members include some lesser known recordings and not just the widely acclaimed ones such as SOS, DQ, KMKY and TWTIA.
Anyhow here are the listings:
Agnetha: 1 The Winner Takes It All; 2 Our Last Summer; 3 Dancing Queen; 4 Slipping Through My Fingers; 5 When All Is Said And Done.
Bjorn: 1 Like An Angel Passing Through My Room; 2 The Winner Takes It All; 3 I Let The Music Speak; 4 Move On; 5 Andante Andante.
Benny: 1 Knowing Me Knowing You; 2 Dancing Queen; 3 The Day Before You Came; 4 The Winner Takes It all; 5 I Let The Music Speak.
Anni-Frid: 1 I Let The Music Speak; 2 Dancing Queen; 3 The King Has Lost His Crown; 4 Slipping Through My Fingers; 5 The Visitors
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Post by joseph on Jul 24, 2022 11:00:33 GMT
I'm fairly certain that Dancing Queen is Frida's favourite ABBA song and always has been. She may have picked I Let The Music Speak to end her interview on the Zoe Ball interview but I think that was because it was a lead vocal for her whereas Dancing Queen is a joint lead with Agnetha. Mind, I only listened to the interview once so maybe she did say I Let The Music Speak and I missed it?
I'm surprised none of them pick more deep cuts or B sides. Or a stormer like Lay All Your Love On Me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2022 10:35:36 GMT
I'd be surprised if The Day Before You Came was one of Benny's favourite. He said it it was a good song but not a good recording. The reverse for Under Attack.
He also talked about Agnetha singing it not as well as she could but as an ordinary person.
I have heard Bjorn rate Like An Angel Passing Through My Room and yes, Frida with Dancing Queen and Agnetha with The Winner Takes it All.
Both Benny and Bjorn appear to rate I Wonder. It would be interesting to learn what they think of the Voyage tracks. I read or heard that Benny really likes Ode to Freedom
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 26, 2022 11:50:34 GMT
It looks as though The Visitors may be the group's favourite album: Frida includes three tracks in her Top 5; Agnetha and Bjorn pick two (not the same two); and Benny picks one. In all The Visitors is represented by four different tracks; Super Trouper by three; two from Arrival; and one each from The Album and Voulez-Vous.
I join B&B in rating I Wonder. It's a really good mid-era lyric, a stately and elegant melody and a stormer of a vocal performance. And the recording is gorgeously crisp. I wonder if Benny's Piano album is a reasonable barometer of his favourites (accepting, of course, that some tunes just won't suit a bare-bones piano setting).
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Post by richard on Jul 26, 2022 16:00:00 GMT
[...] I join B&B in rating I Wonder. It's a really good mid-era lyric, a stately and elegant melody and a stormer of a vocal performance. And the recording is gorgeously crisp. I wonder if Benny's Piano album is a reasonable barometer of his favourites (accepting, of course, that some tunes just won't suit a bare-bones piano setting). It seems a few of us here rate I Wonder. I love solo piano in various genres, but I'm sure you're right, Tony. Ravel transcribed many of his already complex solo piano compositions to become gorgeous orchestral works. But I'm sure that going the opposite way - paring things down to solo piano, whether it be from fuller classical or pop arrangements - may not seem as effective, sometimes because of listeners having to 'turn down' their aural expectations; and that's not always easy to do. But for me it's great measure of the quality of Benny's ABBA melodies to hear them played as piano solos by a good pianist.
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 26, 2022 18:16:43 GMT
I have a friend who creates full-on electronic dance music but she won't release a track until she has satisfied herself that it also works well in a bare-bones acoustic setting. I've often wished that an ABBA tribute act would do something less obvious and do an acoustic or stripped back set.
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Post by Michal on Jul 27, 2022 5:02:38 GMT
I've often wished that an ABBA tribute act would do something less obvious and do an acoustic or stripped back set. An ABBA tribute act? I've always wished ABBA themselves would do that. I've always thought that some kind of unplugged mini concert, included in a documentary where all four would sit together and reminisce would be a fantastic way of saying good bye. Well, that was before Voyage happened anyway. Now it's maybe too late.
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Post by truedogz on Jul 27, 2022 8:47:13 GMT
I don't think we can confidently say that Spotify has recorded accurately the band member's favourites in order of preference as we have no details of the process they took to get these results. I do think it is plausible that some of the lesser known tracks might be in contention for personal reasons or even because there is particular part of a recording they are attracted to - just as it happens to us where a hook, instrument or harmony is the part that attracts us. So for Benny the tune for The Day Before You Came might be one of his favourites despite being disappointed with the final recording.
Tastes and opinions can change over the years and I think this also applies to the band members. Some would have appeal due to nostalgia, other songs for technical aspects or their overall beauty.
Benny over the years has provided the most commentary but at times has also been a bit flippant or understated in his comments. But sometimes I think he accurately conveyed his feelings. For example he has stated that TYFTM is a good song but not a good recording so he was somewhat disappointed with the outcome. On the other hand The Name of the Game was an ok song which they got the best out of they could. He has identified DQ and KMKY on several occasions as being the two best recordings as well as identifying TWTIA as a favourite - he has commented that the latter is musically simple but clearly holds it in high regard because of the brilliance of Bjorn's lyrics and the inherent beauty of its simplicity. If we take the band members comments collectively over the years for Agnetha its TWTIA, Frida its DQ and for Benny it is probably KMKY. Bjorn has typically avoided identifying favourites. I think for the boys it is harder for them to identify clear cut favourites as in some cases its like splitting hairs. For the girls they had emotional attachments to their favourites from the time they were recorded.
I do not think we can conclude that the Visitors is the bands favourite album because some of the songs are turning up in these lists. In fact Benny has said in the past that he was frustrated during the recording process for that album. I do think there is evidence that they may regard the album as it allowed them to diversify from what they did in the past and they have continued this with Voyage. These albums have allowed them to evolve from their origins. Benny has said that ABBA hit their peak with Arrival, producing their two best recordings as well as a number of other good ones, but that Super Trouper was where they had the most consistent quality.
As for the Piano album Benny selected those songs because he managed to get them to sound 'right', ie do them justice, whereas others he tried he wasn't satisfied with the result. Obviously the ones he released he is very satisfied as piano solos so he must like them. They may not be his top favourites from what he wrote over the years but he obviously thinks they are very good. Other people on Youtube have performed piano solos of some of ABBA's top recordings and they sound brilliant, but Benny sets high standards for himself.
I'd love to hear stripped down recordings of ABBA's hits both the vocals and the instruments but I doubt we will ever see it. I think the closest we will see are the snippets we have seen in documentaries. I saw one where Benny revealed components of Ring Ring and I thought wow!
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 27, 2022 9:22:09 GMT
I've often wished that an ABBA tribute act would do something less obvious and do an acoustic or stripped back set. An ABBA tribute act? I've always wished ABBA themselves would do that. I've always thought that some kind of unplugged mini concert, included in a documentary where all four would sit together and reminisce would be a fantastic way of saying good bye. Well, that was before Voyage happened anyway. Now it's maybe too late. I had just that fantasy in the noughties! A setlist that reflected personal connection with the songs rather than a most-of-Gold-and-a couple-of-token-deep-cuts selection (this is not a sideswipe at Voyage: it's a completely different beast and the setlist is perfect for that). I envisioned songs like TDBYC, MLML, LAAPTMR, WAISAD in gorgeous acoustic and string ensemble arrangements. ABBA dressed elegantly and tastefully in civilian attire. An Abbey Road-type location that allowed brilliant acoustics and the presence of a modest audience of friends and admirers. All recorded for release on an album, DVD and to be intercut with a proper in-depth interview. Agnetha's return with MCB made me believe that such a hope might not be entirely impossible but the various ABBAs maintained their implacable distances. And so my fantasy shifted into possibilities for a tribute act. I'd love something where the stage act weren't squoze into cheap satin approximations of 1970s stage clothes, where leadvocals weren't assigned on the basis of hair colour, and where songs could be arranged and performed by singers of any gender. Letting the music speak, so to speak. And/or a tribute album in this style.
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Post by stepalm on Jul 27, 2022 9:45:26 GMT
I agree with you about the wish to see some of ABBAS recordings stripped down. Especially the ones that they were not satisfy with from the beginning or never was huge hits. Espacially WAISAD is one of my favourites and we have seen different versions with other artists. I just wish Frida could do it in a more stripped down version. I heard that on the Voyage conert she starts the song of a capella. Is that true. I think its strange that there are no live recordings from that song from the Voyage concert since its the song that seems most different from its original.
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Post by gary on Jul 27, 2022 10:01:16 GMT
Truedogz, I’m surprised to hear that Benny has said that TYFTM is a good song but not a good recording. When and where did he say that?
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Post by richard on Jul 27, 2022 11:13:31 GMT
Apart from the music side of things, I wonder if Björn has held different views (if private) about some of his lyrics. Maybe it would be surprising if he hadn't. A lot of the time I think his lyrics are superb - but not those for possibly their most emotionally appealing song nowadays: TWTIA. I share the views of the few who think that comparing the end of a loving relationship to the winners and losers in a card game as inappropriate; and it actually detracts from the song's emotional impact on me.
Regarding Benny's views about their songs, I remember reading on the old forum that Benny had been quoted - perhaps in an ABBA fan magazine - that he regarded LAAPTMR as possibly his best melody. So I'm sure their opinions, like ours, about some ABBA songs have changed over the years.
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Post by lamont on Jul 28, 2022 5:47:07 GMT
I disagree with the statement regarding TWTIA and the card game metaphor, I think it highlights how petty the end of a relationship can be where each partner will do anything they can to get one up on the other, the protagonist in the song says herself that she did everything she could to invest in the relationship, but was suddenly caught unawares and ‘had’ to play this cruel game and learn to hate and scheme. Though being petty, her rival at the end of the song wrong foots her by wanting to be a friend and she appears foolish, but the not only the rules of the game have changed, the game has too, so she loses again.
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Post by truedogz on Jul 28, 2022 8:29:06 GMT
To everyone making contributions thanks so much, we are all learning something. We are all fascinated by what the individual members of ABBA think of their work. I think over time we should place any links we find of their comments on their songs, plus their peers, so we have some sort of a record. Bjorn in my opinion has not been given enough credit from the music industry for his lyrics considering English is not his primary language. I think there is a lot of evidence that they improved over the years. I found it interesting that in the Spotify list for Bjorn Move On is present. I listened to the stripped down version of it the other night and grew fond of it again. Regarding Benny's views about their songs, I remember reading on the old forum that Benny had been quoted - perhaps in an ABBA fan magazine - that he regarded LAAPTMR as possibly his best melody. So I'm sure their opinions, like ours, about some ABBA songs have changed over the years. Richard I'm a bit tired so which song is LAAPTMR? Also can you remember exactly what Benny said? He does make some really interesting comments and sometimes it can be one part of a song he really likes - I think as we sometimes do.
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Post by truedogz on Jul 28, 2022 8:46:29 GMT
Truedogz, I’m surprised to hear that Benny has said that TYFTM is a good song but not a good recording. When and where did he say that? Gary, about 10 to 15 years ago Benny did a number of interviews where he provided a bit of a critique of some of his recordings. Most have disappeared off the internet but using Wayback I found one of them where he compares some of their recordings including TYFTM. Here is the text: "Q. Over the years have you fallen in and out of love with your songs? Bjorn Ulvaeus: We’re very proud of them indeed. Whenever I hear something on the radio, it still sounds uplifting and fresh. I don’t know why. When we split up in 1981 or ’82 I thought that was the end of it. I know there were a lot of records put out by various labels, but it wasn’t until the beginning of the ’90s that Abba Gold was released. But all through that time I was still very proud of the stuff. Benny Andersson: I think we should be forgiven for some of it. You try your best all the time but sometimes the results are not exactly what you expected, at least when you see it in retrospect. But we’ve very proud of the work we did with Abba and we’re very proud to be involved with this movie too. Q. What’s your favourite Abba song?
Bjorn Ulvaeus: I’m afraid I don’t have one. It’s really very difficult to say. Benny Andersson: They’re all different. If you take Dancing Queen: good recording, good song. Thank You For The Music: Good song, bad recording. Knowing Me, Knowing You: Great song, great recording. But they all have a place and it’s impossible to choose one.
Bjorn Ulvaeus: Also, we tried to emulate what The Beatles had done, which was to develop from album to album… to take another step and be more daring. And that means there are favourites from the early period, favourites from the middle period and favourites from the end. So, that’s why it’s impossible to pick just one." I think Bjorn's final comment touches on what I have said about the Visitors - they like some of those songs because for ABBA they were "daring". Here is the link to the article: web.archive.org/web/20090217205238/http://www.indielondon.co.uk/Film-Review/mamma-mia-the-movie-bjorn-alvaeus-and-benny-andersson-interview
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Post by richard on Jul 28, 2022 9:42:02 GMT
That's a good interpretation of TWTIA's lyric, lamont . It's just that such game-playing pettiness doesn't engage me or touch me., that's all. I accept I'm in the minority because TWTIA is probably THE song for many nowadays when it comes to ABBA. The main attraction of the song for me is a musical one: the descending piano motif, which I do find very poignant. I mentioned in my previous post that perhaps at one point Benny may have regarded LAAPTMR (Like An Angel Passing Through My Room) as his best melody. I certainly regard the lyrics as some of the best - possibly the best - that Björn wrote for an ABBA song; and I wonder what Björn thinks of them? And truedogz , I was only digging up from memory what I read on the defunct ABBA4EVER forum from years back. Maybe someone on this present forum still has the relevant ABBA fan magazine in which I believe Benny expressed that view about LAAPTMR.
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Post by truedogz on Jul 28, 2022 9:43:08 GMT
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Post by truedogz on Jul 28, 2022 9:52:35 GMT
That's a good interpretation of TWTIA's lyric, lamont . It's just that such game-playing pettiness doesn't engage me or touch me., that's all. I accept I'm in the minority because TWTIA is probably THE song for many nowadays when it comes to ABBA. The main attraction of the song for me is a musical one: the descending piano motif, which I do find very poignant. I mentioned in my previous post that perhaps at one point Benny may have regarded LAAPTMR (Like An Angel Passing Through My Room) as his best melody. I certainly regard the lyrics as some of the best - possibly the best - that Björn wrote for an ABBA song; and I wonder what Björn thinks of them? And truedogz , I'm was only digging up from memory what I read on the defunct ABBA4EVER forum from years back. Maybe someone on this present forum still has the relevant ABBA fan magazine in which I believe Benny expressed that view about LAAPTMR. Thanks Richard, I should have figured it out. I think a lot of us like LAAPTMR because in a stripped down form it has a simple beauty. It showcases Frida's silky voice. To me it was the most beautiful closure to the ABBA era, well their first era. I like Ode to Freedom but I will always regard this track as ABBA's closure - I remember hearing it when the album was released and thought to myself "this must be the end". If the Spotify list is genuine then clearly Bjorn is proud of his work on this song.
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Post by jj on Jul 28, 2022 10:22:12 GMT
her rival at the end of the song wrong foots her by wanting to be a friend and she appears foolish, "The game is on again/A lover or a friend?"
I always interpreted these lines to mean the protagonist has since found a new man (i.e, a new "game" to play with another man) and that now there's speculation from her friends (the "spectators of the show") as to whether her new relationship is a serious one or not.
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Post by undertheappletree on Jul 28, 2022 11:22:40 GMT
' I Wonder' has always been a favourite of mine, l have read that some think the opposite; The live version which is a B side to a Single release, like this also, along with ' Move on', and 'I let the music speak' two more favourites OM. Benny collaborated with a female Singer, who did a slowed down Version of WAISAD which l really like. Regarding his Piano Album which still tops the Classical Charts,in Sweden.. he did say he might Compose a Second one, it would be really nice if he did with vocals from A&F with maybe a song or two from Voyage' included.
I would like to hear more from the lucky ones that have been to The Abba Arena, to watch The Voyage Show" how the band live arrangements sound are the songs played much the same or more acoustic or more rock etc?.
Although TWTIA is a good song, l can't help noticing how contrived the lyrics are, like Bjorn was reading a rhyming dictionary while drinking his Vodka, The line ' Does it feel the same, when she calls your name is touching though and stands out.
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Post by richard on Jul 28, 2022 13:07:07 GMT
Although TWTIA's lyrics don't appeal to me much, their Jacques Brel-like melodrama is an interesting take on them - not that I've listened to many of his songs, mind you! But I know of the Scott Walker version of one of his songs, Mathilde, especially.
I happen to like the Beatles as well as ABBA, and I think Björn often wrote better lyrics than Lennon/McCartney.
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Post by gary on Jul 28, 2022 16:10:25 GMT
Thanks truedogz. I’m surprised Benny thinks TYFTM is a bad recording. Although it’s far from a favourite song of mine, I think it’s a fantastic recording. The production work on The Album is the best of their career, in my opinion.
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Post by truedogz on Jul 28, 2022 20:41:48 GMT
Thanks truedogz. I’m surprised Benny thinks TYFTM is a bad recording. Although it’s far from a favourite song of mine, I think it’s a fantastic recording. The production work on The Album is the best of their career, in my opinion. Gary I've suggested before that Benny can be a bit flippant or understated when he makes comments. I think we have to always keep in mind that English is a second language for the band members even for Bjorn and Benny who are quite proficient. I think its the comparison of songs that is important in some of his analysis. In another interview Benny said out of the roughly 100 songs that ABBA recorded about 20 did not turn out as good as they expected and 20 turned out better than they thought they would. So TYFTM in his mind is one of those they could have done better with. I'll see if I can find a link to that interview. If Benny says something is good I'd interpret it as he thinks its great while bad means in hindsight it could have been done better. Clearly he likes the tune and lyrics for TYFTM but thinks the arrangement could be improved. He often raises it in interviews or plays part of it so to him it is a bit of a signature tune. I think there is a bit of a parallel in Just a Notion a tune he has said he always liked but for some reason he was not satisfied with the original recording. 40 years later he rearranged it and was happy enough with it to not only put it on Voyage but release it as a single. Tony earlier suggested that Arrival and the Album had the best production and I agree with both of you. The clarity of some of the recordings is superb with the Album being a bit more consistent.
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Post by truedogz on Jul 28, 2022 22:50:44 GMT
If you go to the link I provided Benny says they created the 'mini musical' in order to make TYFTM fit in their concerts and the Album. So the mini musical was created to match TYFTM and not the other way round.
I don't know what you need to be convinced about, you have a direct quote from the man himself. That is what he said. It is not the only time he has made those sorts of comments about TYFTM. There was another interview where he said something along the lines of it being one of their signature tunes but in hindsight he would do it a bit differently. I'll see if I can find that one for you.
I would heartily agree with you that TYFTM is not a bad recording but in fact a very good one. It seems that Benny believes they could have done better so it is his evaluation based on his standards. Its just the word "bad" is not appropriate. If he says something is "good" as he did with Dancing Queen he obviously has a high opinion of it. So he really likes TYFTM but also thinks the final track could have been better. It would be nice if he was more specific about which aspect could be improved. So I would interpret bad as meaning there was scope for it to be better.
At times Benny and Bjorn are their own greatest critics. Listening to them over the years I think in hindsight they might find things in most of their recordings they could improve. In some cases they reworked songs into various versions to get one they were satisfied with. There are various examples and TYFTM is one of them. In the case of JAN Benny may not have liked part of the instrumentation in the original version, the ambience, whatever. Unfortunately he hasn't been specific. It may have been left off an earlier album as it might have not fitted the feel of that release and we know over time B & B strived to get consistency in their albums. I don't think JAN is one of their greatest recordings but enjoyed it as it went back to their early years, had a Ring Ring feel. I think in Voyage they tried to put together something that would satisfy a range of musical tastes and showcase their diversity as writers.
I don't agree with you that if they thought TYFTM could have been better they wouldn't include it in their concert. I think for most of their tracks they could identify potential improvements and they weren't interested in reworking them - even though we would all love to here it.
I’d interpret Benny's comments as being he really likes TYFTM but compared to how DQ and KMKY turned out he thinks they could have done better.
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