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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2022 12:15:38 GMT
So, after a fantastic year for us ABBA fans, where would you like things to go from here, if at all? I am hoping that a documentary will have been filmed over the past few years and that for me would round things up nicely for their 50th Anniversary - shown on TV then DVD release. Not sure another album would ever be on the cards, which is fine with me. Wouldn't mind an old ABBA song appearing in something, which gets the same success as Running Up That Hill by Kate Bush, and getting a 10th UK no. 1 single!! For the JLT fans out there, do you think they could have a reworking up their sleeves?! Or maybe the two unreleased songs will see the light of day and prove very popular - maybe they just weren't ready in time for the Voyage album deadline? Of course, there's always ABBA Gold to rely on for getting to number 1 again!! 30 years and still going strong (no. 11 this week)! Maybe sometime in the future we could see an ABBAtar video along with a single release from the show? Anyway, just a few thoughts! I don't expect anything - ABBA have exceeded all expectations this past year for me. If you had asked me 5 years ago if ABBA would get back together, my answer would have definitely been "no way"! So I am happy! absolutely thrilled with Voyage!
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Post by richard on Sept 8, 2022 21:00:21 GMT
I have this little fantasy of Just Like That appearing without fuss or fanfare on a final album that also includes the two songs that weren't completed at the time of the Voyage album. But I don't suppose it will happen. I also like the idea of an up-to-date documentary in which the four members reminisce about their lives because of ABBA. And another one, as Tony (HOMETIME) has suggested elsewhere, focused in more detail on their music: how the songs came about, the vocals, arrangements, etc.
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Post by Alan on Sept 8, 2022 22:47:30 GMT
I have this little fantasy of Just Like That appearing without fuss or fanfare on a final album that also includes the two songs that weren't completed at the time of the Voyage album. But I don't suppose it will happen. You’re right, it won’t happen. I’ve started to think that Benny gets a kick out of trolling the fans. I’m no fan of Just Like That by any means but the “we didn’t like it so you’re not having it” line is tiresome. Particularly as we’ve heard the song in three different versions and part of it officially. The cat’s out of the bag, Benny, just get over yourself. And then to do it again with these two new unreleased tracks - “quite good but need some work”. Well thanks for that. You dug up Just A Notion from the depths of oblivion and gave us Little Things, so perhaps these two other songs aren’t really “quite good”, but just leave the carrot dangling anyway.
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 9, 2022 8:00:49 GMT
The Voyage experience is a fantastic success and I suspect they'll recoup their costs on schedule. I wonder if it would take moving the Voyage show to America to get them back in the studio? richard's comment reminds me that we have roughly a third of an album ready to go. I'm not downplaying the challenge of creating seven more songs worthy of the ABBA label but there are so many ways of creating a meaningful release. But the biggest challenge here is the age of the ABBA members: despite the energy we saw from them on opening night, mustering and sustaining the energy to record a new album is a bigger ask than ever before. Do we settle for The Singles - The First 50 Years, with a couple of new songs like their last farewell in 1982? I'm surprised that no documentary on the development of Voyage and the recording of the album has yet emerged. Maybe they've learned to play a longer game, to release things at a pace that doesn't wear out their welcome. The album is still not a year old and with the Christmas market gliding slowly into view, this would be a good time to consider an expanded voyage album and release something to broadcast. If they have decided that ABBA is now officially retired, I suspect that they'll keep any residual material and documentaries for the Eurovision anniversary in 2024.
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Post by foreverfan on Sept 9, 2022 9:11:24 GMT
Here in the UK we have lost our very own Dancing Queen , a sad time for most in the nation... This leads to ABBAs and our own mortality, nothing lasts for ever. As time goes by after the release of both Voyages, I feel this is it, and getting more unlikely to get anything more as much as I / we would love it, and yes I’d like to be surprised. If anything is going to happen it will be during the 50th anniversary, so I guess we can hope until then. Benny peeved me, but has every right to say whatever he wished, but I wished he hadn’t said anything about those unreleased tracks, naughty Benny.....such a tease, so there is the hope of those two. JLT, will I fear always be the dream and will not materialise in their life times. What can we look forward to, personally very little Universal will release many compilations , of which few if any will be successful, and eventually it won’t be worth releasing anything to sell a few 1000 copies. Yes I’d like a documentary of Voyage both album and show, but even that may be slowly fading away, it’s been a year ... So as depressing as it all sounds, I’m glad for what I have ,memories and fantastic music, to take with me on this life journey we are all on.....
Of course I’d love to be proved wrong and there’s something BIG around that next corner......
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Post by richard on Sept 9, 2022 11:01:28 GMT
Despite my doubts about the possibility of one final album from ABBA, partly because of the age thing thatTony mentions, I do still feel a bit of lingering encouragement floating about because of Agnetha and Frida's responses when the Voyage album came out. Trouble is, I can kind of imagine Benny saying: " Come on, girls! We've done Voyage. That enough now at our ages! Let me get back to BAO. (Oops, I don't know where that last sentence came from - just sort of slipped out!. 😃)
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Post by joseph on Sept 10, 2022 16:25:22 GMT
I don't have any expectations. I'm more than happy with what we have. Anything from now on is a bonus. 'Voyage' IS a bonus! Of course those two extra unfinished songs turning up on an album would be great and I wouldn't say no to Just Like That. A proper, "serious" sit-down interview with all four would be great. But in my heart I feel this is it. None of us actually can say for certain (last time I looked I had no inside knowledge).
As an ABBA fan who loves their actual music above all else, of course it's never enough. I'll always want 'one more song' because I love the sound they all make together but the hard reality is that one day that will really will be the end, new music wise. I don't even want to contemplate that. But what's here and now is what I'm grateful for and it still brings me much joy. That's what I hold on to. In the meantime I can only wish every ABBA member as long and happy a life as possible.
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Post by evilincarnate on Sept 11, 2022 6:18:53 GMT
I'm sure others have already mentioned this, but consideration must be given to the Voyage concerts serving as an ongoing platform for future recordings being released. The shows could provide the perfect promotional opportunity, both for any such new recordings and the concert itself, ensuring it remains fresh and current. The recent decision to extend the show to 2026 bodes well for such an idea - it would allow sufficient time for one last album and/or any singles to be written, recorded, released and promoted.
I'm confident that there is more material than two unfinished songs from the Voyage sessions - Bernard Lohr indicated as much during an interview last year prior to the album's release. The fact that Benny referred to just two songs suggests that these were actual contenders for inclusion, but I suspect they simply ran out of time with a looming album release date that could not be altered due to a tightly coordinated undertaking. I also believe that Bjorn and Benny could write an entirely new batch of ten or twelve songs in three months if they were focused and this may lead to the very thing that I believe Voyage lacked - a thematic quality that The Visitors had in spades. I adore Voyage, but it was not initially envisaged as an album but rather disparate tracks that kept growing and eventually morphed into an album. A fine collection but very little to tie the individual songs together other than quality songwriting and the girls' vocal harmonies.
My only caveat to a tenth and final album being recorded is the group's respective ages. They are all now at a stage of their lives where nothing is guaranteed - writing prowess; vocal ability; a keen set of ears; judgment and of course, health and looming mortality. If their collective hearts are in it, there is no reason why another recording could not occur but they would need to make a decision and commit soon - that's if they haven't already been planning and working on such a project under our noses.
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Post by richard on Sept 11, 2022 10:17:38 GMT
I've wondered, too, if they might have recorded more songs than they're letting on about. They certainly had the time to do it.
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Post by gary on Sept 13, 2022 16:46:51 GMT
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Post by undertheappletree on Sept 14, 2022 9:23:01 GMT
joseph - Also like the Avatar;)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2022 11:12:07 GMT
Joseph - no disrespect, you are absolutely entitled to your views, and I have no wish to offend you, but I think there is a time and a place. In my opinion, this is not it, sorry.
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Post by Alan on Sept 14, 2022 15:09:39 GMT
I’ve removed the quoted post from the two posts above, but only because neither were referring to anything in it but to something else entirely. I’d prefer to avoid discussion on that issue as it’s nothing to do with ABBA and could be very divisive.
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Post by gary on Sept 14, 2022 15:43:29 GMT
I’ve removed the quoted post from the two posts above, but only because neither were referring to anything in it but to something else entirely. I’d prefer to avoid discussion on that issue as it’s nothing to do with ABBA and could be very divisive. Thanks Alan. You’re right.
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Post by undertheappletree on Sept 15, 2022 8:25:05 GMT
I’ve removed the quoted post from the two posts above, but only because neither were referring to anything in it but to something else entirely. I’d prefer to avoid discussion on that issue as it’s nothing to do with ABBA and could be very divisive. I am also happy with the removal , being off topic; ie not Abba related. And was Contentious.
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Post by joseph on Oct 5, 2022 1:25:33 GMT
In lieu of a lengthy, serious documentary about ABBA (for once not one involving Pete Waterman or faded has-beens) I spotted this. It's really rather good. It does beg the question, "What next?" Is there more? Can we even hope for more from ABBA? I've actually been revisiting some of their earlier work- songs like What About Livingstone? It's not that I'm mad about this kind of early output but it does make me nostalgic and rather wistful for what seem like simpler, more innocent times. Sure, the world has always been troubled, but to me it's particularly grim right now. People burying their heads in the sand and suffering from what I see as Stockholm Syndrome. I listen to songs like Soldiers and Happy New Year ("dragging on feet of clay, never knowing he's astray") Thankfully, we still have music.
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Post by gogo on Oct 5, 2022 18:04:31 GMT
Also a bit unnecessary is the logo in the top right corner of the documentary. What did "ABBA registro" contribute to the production? Money, licences, creative input ...?
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Post by breifne on Oct 5, 2022 18:04:33 GMT
Yes Joseph - that video was interesting and uplifting, and much appreciated. Did it originate in the USA or Canada ?
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Post by HOMETIME on Oct 5, 2022 20:21:34 GMT
Thanks for posting that video joseph. It's one of the very best of that kind of thing that I've seen.
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Post by joseph on Oct 6, 2022 18:24:55 GMT
breifne, oh gosh, I'm sorry, I have no idea where the video came from. It just came up on recommendations on YouTube Algorithm? I don't know why there's a logo on it? People often do that, not sure why. The most annoying example of it being those ABBATALK people. They plaster their name over everything but something tells me they're not always the copyright holders, if ever? Lol they really think very highly of themselves. Anyone would think they were a group of experts with delusions of authority. Just sayin' 😉 I must watch the video again actually. It was quite refreshing. I'm glad it popped up. We need more of this and less of those Channel 5 thingies.
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Post by gogo on Oct 6, 2022 19:56:09 GMT
Yes Joseph - that video was interesting and uplifting, and much appreciated. Did it originate in the USA or Canada ? DW is "Deutsche Welle", Germany's foreign broadcasting service
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 7, 2022 15:24:50 GMT
Joesph... at last we disagree..lol... well I assume we do unless your being sarcastic... Your New Avatar... each to their own..... Thanks for posting that clip, for some reason, it’s taken this long to play it, and very interesting it was to, more than the same old stuff pumped out time and time again. I guess this shows we all could do with a definitive biography of their life/ music/ business.. There may be hope yet, as why film the making of Voyage if it’s not to be used...... we wait....
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Post by voulez on Oct 18, 2022 19:35:27 GMT
Hi everyone. I believe that Benny made mention of those two songs so that they could go back into the studio - say they’re working on just those two songs - and pull a rabbit out of the hat (a full album).
Why do people keep referring to their ages? They’re not 70-somethings proposing going back to work as scaffolders - they’re artists. Voyage proved that their musical intuition is all intact still.
Another album would be amazing, and I agree that if it was written/recorded over a shorter span it would be a more concentrated body of work (like The Visitors). Totally agree!
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Post by welshboy on Oct 19, 2022 9:35:21 GMT
voulez , Well said I like all that you have talked about in your post. People in their 70's go on and do so many great things as do members of my family who are in their 80'. I have not posted as much on here as most posts are all doom and glum. I want to come on this site and feel happy. So again voulez , well said.
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Post by voulez on Oct 19, 2022 14:31:04 GMT
Thanks Welshboy. I think it’s amazing and wonderful that they’ve done this in their 70’s - a really modern attitute on their parts. Kudos to your family for developing and growing into their 80’s.
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Post by gazman on Oct 20, 2022 12:11:26 GMT
Where do we go from here?
1. Annual refreshment of the VOYAGE show - some songs added/moved round/moved each May. London venue runs until spring 2026, in the interim a new Las Vegas show opens, then one in Singapore. Once London's venue closes, the 'European' version goes to Berlin...
2. Occasional new releases based on ABBA's back catalogue - The Visitors 2LP half-speed remaster in 2023, a new Voyage package including vinyl singles, occasional 'best of' sets but with a continued promotion/prominence of 'Gold' over the next decade...
Obviously, only a guess!
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Post by iiwftn on Jul 28, 2023 15:43:51 GMT
As others have mentioned across various threads, I’d love to have seen a repackage of the Sydney ‘77 footage (even if it really was rain-damaged - which I’m not entirely convinced!).
There’s a good playlist on You Tube where the concert footage clips run simultaneously but what I’d live for a ‘Get Back’-style re-boot.
I know that there was a little post-production done but over all, it shows what a great live band ABBA were, visually and acoustically.
And of course, if they could unearth any previously unseen songs, well, that’s holy grail stuff.
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Post by iiwftn on Jul 29, 2023 14:31:45 GMT
…and
I would love to see a big-budget, serious, in-depth, fully-researched Netflix (or suchlike) docu-series with all four main players participating.
The only ABBA documentaries we have on You Tube are those bland 2000s-era/Pete Waterman/casual-fan/general public, Channel 5 efforts.
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Post by johnny on Jul 31, 2023 15:29:04 GMT
^ Yes. I have argued for this too. As you say a serious documentary not these Z list Celebrity one.
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Post by iiwftn on Aug 6, 2023 15:39:02 GMT
Johnny, I get the impression that Bjorn would be up for this along with Frida, but the other two…?
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