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Post by gazman on Jun 29, 2020 17:41:23 GMT
If it were up to me I'd put them out as a stand-alone - maybe strictly DL/streaming - single or EP release just to get them out there to head-off all the anticipation, but I think ABBA, for whatever reason, feel that the songs need to be hitched to a bigger project of some sort (so that the two can act as promotion and hype for each other for one thing, I suppose). At the same time I think that an entire new album of varied, quality material is beyond them at this point; new albums are created by working groups, and ABBA can't be considered a working group at this stage, so they're somewhat stuck in terms of finding a 'carrier' for the new songs. I feel it is more likely to be the following scenario with the new songs - B&B are concerned about the project delay, and the fact that 2 new songs were now signalled to the public so long ago, that they have simply set out to replace them with 2 newer songs to support the ABBAtar project. Thus, leaving 2 songs to be released 'soon' and 2 to go with the project when it eventually goes live... But let's see.... |
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Post by justabba on Jun 29, 2020 18:37:22 GMT
I don't subscribe to the pessimism. If there are 4 new ABBA songs (I was reliably informed that six are in the can, but that's beside the point), it would not make much sense to use them in MM3 if the ABBA versions have not already been released. The premise of the franchise is that the story is built around *ABBA* songs. New Andersson/Ulvaeus songs performed first by Meryl/Cher/Amanda Seyfried/Lily James/whomever and not by ABBA cannot, by definition, be ABBA songs. If the members of ABBA have gone to the trouble of recording them and if they are of a standard that satisfies the group, I can't imagine for a second that they won't be released by ABBA. I agree absolutely. I'm completely sure they will be issued as new ABBA songs! |
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Post by chron on Jun 29, 2020 18:40:38 GMT
The premise of the franchise is that the story is built around *ABBA* songs. New Andersson/Ulvaeus songs performed first by Meryl/Cher/Amanda Seyfried/Lily James/whomever and not by ABBA cannot, by definition, be ABBA songs. If the members of ABBA have gone to the trouble of recording them and if they are of a standard that satisfies the group, I can't imagine for a second that they won't be released by ABBA. It was a far-fetched thought, but I was thinking that if they weren't able to come up with another way of presenting them to their satisfaction, extracts from the songs, as performed by ABBA, could be used as incidental music for a film, without the group making an appearance (PLEASE no appearance!), and could then be released in full on an OST album or something. I don't know enough about the M-M films to judge how preposterous that sort of idea is, although it would represent a departure from usual practice, and would clearly be a fairly horrid prospect for any ABBA fan repelled by the idea of the films. |
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Post by HOMETIME on Jun 29, 2020 21:47:50 GMT
Well, on the basis of MM2 (which I forced myself to sit through this weekend - ugh!), nothing could be too preposterous. But that scenario puts new ABBA material in the not-good-enough-for-the-main-plot territory. The presence of new ABBA songs on the OST would likely eclipse the movie. More importantly, it dissolves any distance between ABBA the group and the ABBA songs that were lifted into the distance and repurposed to tell a whimsical story. I can't imagine that ABBA would risk their reputation and heritage by letting themselves get stuffed into the background in a mere franchise. Unless they were sure that the movie wasn't going to be a turkey (I mean...), they'd be putting an historic comeback on some very shaky foundations.
The only scenario I might worry about is B&B getting talked into giving a new song directly to the movie, in the hopes that it might get an Oscar nod. But, again, it'd be a waste - unless, Agnetha and/or Frida appeared in the movie to sing the song. But that would take us back to the risk of ruining ABBA's reputation/heritage if the movie bombs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 22:31:14 GMT
I still have not seen either 'Mamma Mia!' Film. I just watch the Song Clips from them on YouTube. I don't like to watch Films
with a silly, weak Plot. 'Muriel's Wedding' was great, as it used real ABBA Recordings, and it had a great Plot, that took you from
Comedy to Tragedy to Sadness and back again. Now that was a well written Film! Plus, the 'Bridal Dancing Queen' Instrumental,
is one of the most beautiful Tracks that I've ever heard...
Although I'm pessimistic about an ABBA Album, (a New one!), I'm more optimistic about a New Song being released - soon.
We may even get 2 before December is finished. We will see. 'I Still Have Faith In You', in September and another Song in
November or December. That would cheer us all up, in these strange times.
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Post by foreverfan on Jun 30, 2020 9:16:29 GMT
MM3, will probably be made at somepoint, regardless of what “we” think , it was a huge financial success...I feel it may be a few years away and will incorporate the new material. A lot will also depend if they can hold on to the actors who played in 1 and 2, as the audience has invested time and money in them, it wouldn’t really work if Sophie was different for example, plus we have to realistic, age ie Cher, et all are not in the fullness of youth... so whatever will be will be.. but a few years away..
Which then leads onto what happens with the new music, I’m hoping that they are figuring out how to release them , how to portray themselves in today’s media.. did I read that the avatars have done the new tracks? It’s just technicalities that’s holding it all up.. trouble is there is so much incorrect information circling..
Like Colin ^^ has said let’s hope for a Autumn release and Christmas, and at least two more number ones !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 14:44:29 GMT
Graham -- I ABBA do manage any further UK, (or anywhere else), No.1 Singles, it will be a huge shock.
I can't recall the last time, that an Act,'Older' than the 1980's managed, to even reach, the UK Top 10,
with a Single.'Streaming' has done wonders for many 'New', (Post 2010), Acts, but it holds back Acts
from previous Decades, as they just cannot get high 'Streaming' Totals. If ABBA can even have another
Top 10 Single, it will be a huge achievement, as no other 'Old' Acts are able to do it. In 1999, Blondie
had their 1st UK No.1, since 1980, when 'Maria' became their 6th Chart Topping Single. However,'Streaming'
did not exist then, and nor did Downloads. Shops still sold CD Singles, and 'Maria' got to No.1 with just
CD Sales. ABBA cannot do that. Shops no longer stock CD's and 'Streaming', will be a huge barrier, for ABBA.
I know that many Fans could not care less, if New ABBA Songs are unable to do well in the Charts. That is
fine. However, you can 100% bet, that the Global Media, will be expecting those Songs to get to No.1. If they
don't even reach the Top 10, then the Media will notice, and they will ensure that everyone knows that ABBA
have 'Flopped'. The Media know very little about Streaming and how it cripples the chances of 'Old' Acts.
To show how difficult, 'Big Hit Singles', are for 'Old' Acts - the Rolling Stones Single, that was a New Entry at
No.9, in the UK's Monday Mid Week Chart, had already fallen to No.21 by Tuesday. It wasn't helped by its cost,
but, even at a normal Price, it would still have fallen out of the Top 10. So, they won't be getting, their 1st UK
Top 10 Single, since 1981. We'll see if ABBA, can get their 1st, since January 1982, when 'One Of Us' was falling
out of the Top 10...
A New ABBA Album would 100% easily, be ABBA's 10th UK No.1. there would be nothing to stop it.
Unfortunately, I think that New Songs will be all we get. I hope that I'm wrong. If there is to be an
ABBAtars Album, then it will be interesting to see how that sells. most Fans will not be travelling to
another Country & City, to see The ABBAtars Shows. (There will be no 'Tour'). So, the question is, will
the majority of Fans, want to buy an Album, of a Show, that they've never seen? Then again, ABBA will
be doing all of the Singing, on such an Album. The ABBAtars will just be the Photo - on the Cover...
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Post by foreverfan on Jun 30, 2020 15:03:53 GMT
^^did I read somewhere that any New ABBA material release , will be released in all formats, if that’s the case, surely it would have a great chance of reaching the top end.. all us oldies buying them on CD etc.... and kids buying for parents and dare I say grandparents..
we will see when it eventually happens...
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Post by justabba on Jun 30, 2020 15:31:14 GMT
^^did I read somewhere that any New ABBA material release , will be released in all formats, if that’s the case, surely it would have a great chance of reaching the top end.. all us oldies buying them on CD etc.... and kids buying for parents and dare I say grandparents.. we will see when it eventually happens... Well Gorel said it would be released on vinyl and CD single, but that was over 2 years ago |
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Post by bennybjorn on Jun 30, 2020 22:35:59 GMT
Graham -- I ABBA do manage any further UK, (or anywhere else), No.1 Singles, it will be a huge shock. I can't recall the last time, that an Act,'Older' than the 1980's managed, to even reach, the UK Top 10, with a Single.'Streaming' has done wonders for many 'New', (Post 2010), Acts, but it holds back Acts from previous Decades, as they just cannot get high 'Streaming' Totals. If ABBA can even have another Top 10 Single, it will be a huge achievement, as no other 'Old' Acts are able to do it. In 1999, Blondie had their 1st UK No.1, since 1980, when 'Maria' became their 6th Chart Topping Single. However,'Streaming' did not exist then, and nor did Downloads. Shops still sold CD Singles, and 'Maria' got to No.1 with just CD Sales. ABBA cannot do that. Shops no longer stock CD's and 'Streaming', will be a huge barrier, for ABBA. I know that many Fans could not care less, if New ABBA Songs are unable to do well in the Charts. That is fine. However, you can 100% bet, that the Global Media, will be expecting those Songs to get to No.1. If they don't even reach the Top 10, then the Media will notice, and they will ensure that everyone knows that ABBA have 'Flopped'. The Media know very little about Streaming and how it cripples the chances of 'Old' Acts. To show how difficult, 'Big Hit Singles', are for 'Old' Acts - the Rolling Stones Single, that was a New Entry at No.9, in the UK's Monday Mid Week Chart, had already fallen to No.21 by Tuesday. It wasn't helped by its cost, but, even at a normal Price, it would still have fallen out of the Top 10. So, they won't be getting, their 1st UK Top 10 Single, since 1981. We'll see if ABBA, can get their 1st, since January 1982, when 'One Of Us' was falling out of the Top 10... A New ABBA Album would 100% easily, be ABBA's 10th UK No.1. there would be nothing to stop it.
Unfortunately, I think that New Songs will be all we get. I hope that I'm wrong. If there is to be an
ABBAtars Album, then it will be interesting to see how that sells. most Fans will not be travelling to
another Country & City, to see The ABBAtars Shows. (There will be no 'Tour'). So, the question is, will
the majority of Fans, want to buy an Album, of a Show, that they've never seen? Then again, ABBA will
be doing all of the Singing, on such an Album. The ABBAtars will just be the Photo - on the Cover...Just to add, yes, it's likely to be number 1 although this depends on what's released on the same day. Some weeks you only need 10,000 sales to get to #1, others you need over 100,000. It seems the Abba albums weren't enormous sellers although they sold a healthy number with all going single platinum (300,000 to 600,000) in the UK. Only Abba Gold sold massive amounts (currently 18 x platinum). I guess they were more of a singles band in terms of commercial success. I expect a new album would be guaranteed first week sales of 30,000 to 50,000 but a lot more if preceded by a great single (or two) that picks up decent airplay. Would prob push first-week album sales towards 100,000. Fingers crossed we'll get to hear at least 4 new songs even if the album doesn't materialise. |
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Post by jj on Jul 1, 2020 11:12:45 GMT
It's not that I don't care if the new songs (or album, if that eventuates) do well in the charts. I hope they do well and sell in huge quantities, of course. However, for me at least, the most important thing of all is that they are released and that I can hear and play them to my heart's content, because at the end of the day, sales statistics won't affect my appreciation of the music one bit. I just want to hear the new material!
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Post by bennybjorn on Jul 1, 2020 16:35:13 GMT
It's not that I don't care if the new songs (or album, if that eventuates) do well in the charts. I hope they do well and sell in huge quantities, of course. However, for me at least, the most important thing of all is that they are released and that I can hear and play them to my heart's content, because at the end of the day, sales statistics won't affect my appreciation of the music one bit. I just want to hear the new material!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 1:01:12 GMT
The 'Living In A Ghost Town' Single, by the Rolling Stones, has almost fallen out, of the UK Top 40, after 4 'Mid-Week Charts' - Sunday to Wednesday. 9 - 21 - 29 - 34. It probably won't even be in the Top 40, when Friday's 'Full Week Chart', is revealed. A mixture of it, being too expensive and a lack of Streaming, meant that, it just could not be a big UK Hit. I do hope, that any New ABBA Singles, can do much better than that... Bennybjorn -- ABBA sold a lot more UK Albums, than you think. The B.P.I., (British Phonographic Industry), give out UK Sales Awards. However, they have yet to, properly give out UK Albums Awards, for the early 1980's and before then. In the 1970's and early 1980's, a UK Album, could only have 1 Platinum, (300,000), Award, no matter how many copies it had sold. The only 1970's ABBA Album, with more than 1 Platinum Award, is 'Greatest Hits'. In 2016, The B.P.I. started giving out Platinum Awards, that truly reflected the Sales of 1970's and 1960's Albums. They only did those Albums with gigantic Sales. In February 2016, they gave 'Greatest Hits' 7 more Platinum Awards - to properly represent its 2,600,000+ 1970's Sales. That gave it 8 Platinum Awards - for 2,400,000 UK Sales. Its remaining 206,000 Sales, were not enough for a 9th Award. 'Greatest Hits' is still in the UK's Top 50 'All Time Best Selling Albums'. With 'Gold' in 2nd place. (The Queen Albums, in 1st and 10th places, have had their Totals 'enhanced', by each receiving 626,000 Sales, from 2 other Queen releases. So, the gap, between 'Gold' and 'Greatest Hits', is nowhere near as big as it looks). The UK's Top 60 Best Selling Albums - Link: link ABBA are the UK's 8th Biggest Selling Albums Act. They have around 20 Million UK Album Sales, by now. Their 6 UK Million Selling Albums, are the 3rd most by a Group. The Beatles have 14 and Queen have 7. (Take That also, have 6 UK Million Selling Albums. But, they were no-where near as big as ABBA, around the World). ABBA had the UK's Best Selling Album in 3 different Years. Only The Beatles beat that, as regards Groups. They had the UK's No.1 Album of The Year 5 times. Adele, is the only other Act, to manage it as many as 3 times. So, ABBA really were selling Millions of UK Albums. Although Queen, have sold a lot more UK Albums, than ABBA, they never managed to have a UK No.1 Album of The Year... The UK's No.1 Album of each Year - 1956 to 2019 - Link: link However, the following UK ABBA Albums still only have 1 Platinum Award, as The B.P.I. has not got around to giving them their proper Certifications - yet. They are 'Arrival', (around 1,700,000 UK Sales), 'The Album', (over a Million UK Sales), 'Voulez-Vous', (over 800,000 UK Sales), 'Greatest Hits Vol.2, (over 1,200,000 UK Sales), 'Super Trouper', (over 1,300,000 UK Sales), 'The Visitors', (around 700,000 UK Sales), & 'The Singles - The First Ten Years', (around 650,000 to 700,000 UK Sales). All of those Albums, only have 1 UK Platinum Award and they should have, between 2, ['Voulez-Vous', 'The Visitors' and 'The Singles'), and 5, ('Arrival').
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Post by gazman on Jul 2, 2020 7:20:37 GMT
The 'Living In A Ghost Town' Single, by the Rolling Stones, has almost fallen out, of the UK Top 40, after 4 'Mid-Week Charts' - Sunday to Wednesday. 9 - 21 - 29 - 34. It probably won't even be in the Top 40, when Friday's 'Full Week Chart', is revealed. A mixture of it, being too expensive and a lack of Streaming, meant that, it just could not be a big UK Hit. I do hope, that any New ABBA Singles, can do much better than that... Thanks for this, onlyabba4me. The marketing for the Rolling Stones single was unusual in so far as it was available for streaming several weeks ahead of its physical release. It made minimal impact of the chart before it was available in the formats we saw released on Friday. But perhaps that is not so odd these days? I don't know - we see so few physical issues, unless we talk of albums. It will be interesting to see how ABBA market their new material - both in terms of the number of formats, and the timing of them. |
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Post by bennybjorn on Jul 2, 2020 8:35:37 GMT
The 'Living In A Ghost Town' Single, by the Rolling Stones, has almost fallen out, of the UK Top 40, after 4 'Mid-Week Charts' - Sunday to Wednesday. 9 - 21 - 29 - 34. It probably won't even be in the Top 40, when Friday's 'Full Week Chart', is revealed. A mixture of it, being too expensive and a lack of Streaming, meant that, it just could not be a big UK Hit. I do hope, that any New ABBA Singles, can do much better than that... Bennybjorn -- ABBA sold a lot more UK Albums, than you think. The B.P.I., (British Phonographic Industry), give out UK Sales Awards. However, they have yet to, properly give out UK Albums Awards, for the early 1980's and before then. In the 1970's and early 1980's, a UK Album, could only have 1 Platinum, (300,000), Award, no matter how many copies it had sold. The only 1970's ABBA Album, with more than 1 Platinum Award, is 'Greatest Hits'. In 2016, The B.P.I. started giving out Platinum Awards, that truly reflected the Sales of 1970's and 1960's Albums. They only did those Albums with gigantic Sales. In February 2016, they gave 'Greatest Hits' 7 more Platinum Awards - to properly represent its 2,600,000+ 1970's Sales. That gave it 8 Platinum Awards - for 2,400,000 UK Sales. Its remaining 206,000 Sales, were not enough for a 9th Award. 'Greatest Hits' is still in the UK's Top 50 'All Time Best Selling Albums'. With 'Gold' in 2nd place. (The Queen Albums, in 1st and 10th places, have had their Totals 'enhanced', by each receiving 626,000 Sales, from 2 other Queen releases. So, the gap, between 'Gold' and 'Greatest Hits', is nowhere near as big as it looks). The UK's Top 60 Best Selling Albums - Link: link ABBA are the UK's 8th Biggest Selling Albums Act. They have around 20 Million UK Album Sales, by now. Their 6 UK Million Selling Albums, are the 3rd most by a Group. The Beatles have 14 and Queen have 7. (Take That also, have 6 UK Million Selling Albums. But, they were no-where near as big as ABBA, around the World). ABBA had the UK's Best Selling Album in 3 different Years. Only The Beatles beat that, as regards Groups. They had the UK's No.1 Album of The Year 5 times. Adele, is the only other Act, to manage it as many as 3 times. So, ABBA really were selling Millions of UK Albums. Although Queen, have sold a lot more UK Albums, than ABBA, they never managed to have a UK No.1 Album of The Year... The UK's No.1 Album of each Year - 1956 to 2019 - Link: link However, the following UK ABBA Albums still only have 1 Platinum Award, as The B.P.I. has not got around to giving them their proper Certifications - yet. They are 'Arrival', (around 1,700,000 UK Sales), 'The Album', (over a Million UK Sales), 'Voulez-Vous', (over 800,000 UK Sales), 'Greatest Hits Vol.2, (over 1,200,000 UK Sales), 'Super Trouper', (over 1,300,000 UK Sales), 'The Visitors', (around 700,000 UK Sales), & 'The Singles - The First Ten Years', (around 650,000 to 700,000 UK Sales). All of those Albums, only have 1 UK Platinum Award and they should have, between 2, ['Voulez-Vous', 'The Visitors' and 'The Singles'), and 5, ('Arrival'). Interesting - thanks for the clarification. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 21:09:24 GMT
Sorry for going 'Off Topic' with my recent Post. In the end the Rolling Stones Single, only managed a No.61 Entry in the UK! It started the Sales Week at No.9. This shows how very hard it, is for 'Old' Acts to reach the UK Top 10, (or even Top 30), these days. Hopefully, ABBA's New Songs, will do a lot better, than that. I know how ABBA can have, more No.1 Hits in Germany. They just need to release the Singles in so many Formats, that when their Prices are added together, ABBA can enter at No.1! The German Charts are not based on Sales - they are based on Revenue. The higher the Cost/Price, of a Hit Single, the higher it enters the German Charts. (The same with Hit Albums). As a result of, the Formats of, 'Living In A Ghost Town', being expensive, it has entered the German Chart - at No.1. it is their 7th German No.1 Single, and their 1st since July/August 1968, when 'Jumpin' Jack Flash' was No.1, for 2 Weeks... You may find these Chart Lists of interest. I decided to Link to them, in this Thread, rather than put them in it. I feel that it is too 'Off Topic', to put them in this one. ABBA are in both Lists. They only contain 7 Albums, between them... lINK: abbachat.com/thread/1298/new-uk-chart-lists-abba |
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Post by justabba on Jul 4, 2020 5:55:32 GMT
Sorry for going 'Off Topic' with my recent Post. In the end the Rolling Stones Single, only managed a No.61 Entry in the UK! It started the Sales Week at No.9. This shows how very hard it, is for 'Old' Acts to reach the UK Top 10, (or even Top 30), these days. Hopefully, ABBA's New Songs, will do a lot better, than that. I know how ABBA can have, more No.1 Hits in Germany. They just need to release the Singles in so many Formats, that when their Prices are added together, ABBA can enter at No.1! The German Charts are not based on Sales - they are based on Revenue. The higher the Cost/Price, of a Hit Single, the higher it enters the German Charts. (The same with Hit Albums). As a result of, the Formats of, 'Living In A Ghost Town', being expensive, it has entered the German Chart - at No.1. it is their 7th German No.1 Single, and their 1st since July/August 1968, when 'Jumpin' Jack Flash' was No.1, for 2 Weeks... You may find these Chart Lists of interest. I decided to Link to them, in this Thread, rather than put them in it. I feel that it is too 'Off Topic', to put them in this one. ABBA are in both Lists. They only contain 7 Albums, between them... lINK: abbachat.com/thread/1298/new-uk-chart-lists-abbaThat seems a very fair way of compling the singles chart these days! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 9:27:49 GMT
I wish that more ABBA Fans would Post here. I know that it can be a bit scary, as
to what reactions you may get. (To your Posts). However, as long as we are not
unkind to each other, there is really nothing to be afraid of. Having said that, I'm
still nervous, each time that I Post here. (Or elsewhere). I worry that someone
may dislike my Post, or find it boring etc. I have to overcome my fears and I just
Post, and hope that what I've said is OK, with the other ABBA Fans, here. In 'Real
Life', I'm cripplingly shy, so I have to try very hard, to sound confident, in my Posts.
I feel like I'm a much more outgoing fellow, when I Post. I'm incredibly nervous, in
'Real Life'. So, I do hope that more ABBA Fans will Post here. We all have things to
say, and no-one's opinions, are superior, to anyone else's...
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Post by gamleman on Jul 4, 2020 9:42:29 GMT
I wish that more ABBA Fans would Post here. I know that it can be a bit scary, as to what reactions you may get. (To your Posts). However, as long as we are not unkind to each other, there is really nothing to be afraid of. Having said that, I'm still nervous, each time that I Post here. (Or elsewhere). I worry that someone may dislike my Post, or find it boring etc. I have to overcome my fears and I just Post, and hope that what I've said is OK, with the other ABBA Fans, here. In 'Real Life', I'm cripplingly shy, so I have to try very hard, to sound confident, in my Posts. I feel like I'm a much more outgoing fellow, when I Post. I'm incredibly nervous, in 'Real Life'. So, I do hope that more ABBA Fans will Post here. We all have things to say, and no-one's opinions, are superior, to anyone else's... I think possibly more people would post if there was more concrete news. As it is, discussions are currently mainly around scraps of news and speculation, which can still be fun. I am a bit like you, not very confident in 'real life' but I find it easier to express my views in writing, although still feel that I have to be careful what I say online. There is always the prospect of someone picking up on something I have said (perhaps quite innocently) and challenging me about it. Sometimes I post and then worry a bit afterwards. I'm not just talking about this forum, but on other forums too. If we're going to disagree, I think it's important to do it diplomatically  |
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Post by richard on Jul 4, 2020 14:38:19 GMT
When I joined the forum over a year ago, I posted more frequently than I do now - I have less to say. I mentioned this 'problem' in the "To Post Or Not To Post Thread". And, of course, with the rare exception of a thread such as this, with so few members posting, any thread is likely to fade away soon after it appears.
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Post by gazman on Jul 4, 2020 23:26:40 GMT
It is also interesting to note that the Rolling Stones song had been in the UK charts during May, when it also failed to make the Top 50. So presumably those 'sales' were streaming and downloads.
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 6, 2020 19:53:53 GMT
I wish that more ABBA Fans would Post here. I know that it can be a bit scary, as to what reactions you may get. (To your Posts). However, as long as we are not unkind to each other, there is really nothing to be afraid of. Having said that, I'm still nervous, each time that I Post here. (Or elsewhere). I worry that someone may dislike my Post, or find it boring etc. I have to overcome my fears and I just Post, and hope that what I've said is OK, with the other ABBA Fans, here. In 'Real Life', I'm cripplingly shy, so I have to try very hard, to sound confident, in my Posts. I feel like I'm a much more outgoing fellow, when I Post. I'm incredibly nervous, in 'Real Life'. So, I do hope that more ABBA Fans will Post here. We all have things to say, and no-one's opinions, are superior, to anyone else's... It's amazing how many fans seem to have similar issues with shyness and getting anxious about what to say. You always seem supremely confident to me, but I realise that a forum post naturally puts a great deal of distance between perception and reality. I think you should just go with it: if you have something to say, say it. People who get shirty about it are strangers and their reactions often say more about them than they do about what you have written. It can be hard not to take things personally sometimes, and it can be easy to be misunderstood. Especially if there are language barriers in the mix. I used to post a lot more than I do, but I realised I was repeating myself a lot. So, rather than bore people, I disciplined myself to post only when I felt I might have something new to add. At least you have access to data to share. Most of us are not so lucky in having decent stuff to post! |
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Post by jj on Jul 8, 2020 17:11:00 GMT
A Benny song like this would be fun to listen to as an ABBA song on a new album. All they need to do is translate it, tweak it a little and - hey presto! - another melodic ABBA song.
Close your eyes and listen to this song while imagining Agnetha singing the verses, joined on the choruses by Frida (or vice versa).
Terrific, I think! And it's so very "ABBA" as it is already.
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 8, 2020 17:50:38 GMT
I’m sorry.. even with eyes closed and a brilliant imagination.. I really hope the new ABBA material is nothing like this... it would be a major flop and dare I say embarrassment... in my view.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 19:06:41 GMT
Gazman -- Yes, when 'Living In A Ghost Town', (Rolling Stones), was a UK No.63 Hit, in May, that was just on Streaming & Download Sales. Its No.61 Entry, in the 9th July Chart, is due to Sales, on 10 Inch Vinyl & CD. So, it failed to be their 22nd UK Top 10 Hit. just as Queen & Adam Lambert's May Single - 'You Are The Champions' - stalled at No.95, and even Madonna's May 2019 'Medellin Single', got no higher, than No.87. Queen have previously had 26 UK Top 10 Singles and Madonna has had 63(!). 'Old' Acts, just cannot get enough 'Streams', to reach the UK Top 10, these Days. We'll see if ABBA's New Songs, can do it it, when the other 'Old' Acts can't... In the 'SOS', (in Australia), Thread, I've now added, the Australian Top 10 Positions, of all 16, of ABBAs Top 10 Singles there. (I had to type it twice, as I hit the wrong key on my Lap Top, and deleted the 1st one - just before I could Post it! I'm very patient, and I just typed it all over again)... Link: abbachat.com/thread/1297/weeks-sos-number-2-australia |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 19:55:07 GMT
A Benny song like this would be fun to listen to as an ABBA song on a new album. All they need to do is translate it, tweak it a little and - hey presto! - another melodic ABBA song.
Close your eyes and listen to this song while imagining Agnetha singing the verses, joined on the choruses by Frida (or vice versa).
Terrific, I think! And it's so very "ABBA" as it is already.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 19:56:54 GMT
It's a lovely Benny-song. I could also imagine it being an ABBA song.
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 8, 2020 20:18:07 GMT
Could someone say why reply has been removed?
It was only an opinion and not offensive in any way, I thought we were able to disagree?
my apologies, on previous page.. sorry
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Post by gamleman on Jul 9, 2020 7:38:49 GMT
I can hear Benny's arrangement with echoes of ABBA in that BAO song and it is nice in that way, but I think the actual song perhaps harps back to Schlager and isn't the kind of song you would expect ABBA to record now (post-1973, in fact). However, as I have indicated in a separate thread, I would like to hear ABBA versions of certain B&B compositions, "Story Of A Heart" and "I Know Him So Well" being prime examples.
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Post by jj on Jul 9, 2020 7:54:33 GMT
Well I agree "Allt syns när man är naken" certainly wouldn't be a good choice for a single, but as an album track on a new ABBA album, I think it would be terrific. It sounds playful and has a beautiful, melodic and sweet little lullaby sound on the keyboards, followed suddenly with a strident, marching-band atmosphere that jumps out at the listener in the choruses, reminiscent in form to the instrumental section that closes "Two for the Price of One".
There are other songs by Benny's band that would also be great if recorded by ABBA.
I'd love ABBA to record these Benny songs in particular:
This next one has a "One of Us" influenced intro (which reappears briefly for the outro), followed later on by some strings (maybe it's a banjo?) which play a little variation of five notes from a melody that we're extremely familiar with in "The Winner Takes It All" (the "I don't wanna talk" part) :
I think its melody is simply beautiful!
This following song is fun too. It's very ABBA, especially the melody, but it also has a similar cadence/rhythm to"Chiquitita"'s chorus, that "oompah-oompah" effect:
I repeat that I am in no way suggesting that either one of these songs would be suitable as ABBA singles. Certainly not as leading singles. No way! But I would love to hear them get the ABBA treatment with A&A on vocals, and included on a forthcoming ABBA album.
If they were re-recorded by ABBA now, then they'd have three extra songs ready and finished relatively soon, and so ABBA would be nearer to having enough material to release that full album that we want so much.
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