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Post by Alan on Mar 19, 2020 20:58:02 GMT
The answer to that, Michal, I would suggest is that it depends on which one of them passed away. If it was Benny then I think the whole thing is in jeopardy. Björn, then yes, it’s in doubt, but still possible. Frida or Agnetha then I don’t think there’s much of an issue (and it pains me to say that). The ABBA hierarchy remains: 1. Benny - silently calls all the shots. Nothing happens without his agreement. 2. Björn - spokesperson for the group but ultimately for Benny. Slips up sometimes and is forced to backtrack when he incurs Benny’s wrath. 3. Frida - well behind the first two but still more influence than the remaining member. 4. Agnetha - partly her choice, happy to fall in with the others but only if it’s on her terms. Not all that much between her and Frida though. |
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Post by madonnabba on Mar 19, 2020 23:55:53 GMT
Releasing a song titled ‘Don’t shut me down ‘ might not the best idea at the moment.
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Post by Michal on Mar 20, 2020 6:42:39 GMT
Interesting opinion, Alan. However, I would not underestimate Agnetha's and Frida's influence. I don't think they have no say in the matters, it's just that they prefer to stay behind the curtains. As for Benny, I agree he's the one who makes most of the decisions BUT I have a feeling he's actually the one who says no most of the time. I guess it would be much easier to talk Björn into releasing some of the unreleased stuff for example, but it's always Benny who stamps his feet and vetoes everything. So I think that the release of the "new" material in case of the passing of any of the other three would actually mean he'd be the one to withhold the release as he would see no reason for making it available once ABBA is not complete anymore. But we should probably leave the matter, I know I started it but it's somehow becoming too dark for my taste... |
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Post by chron on Mar 21, 2020 18:11:22 GMT
Just a quick one for all those who've been understandably concerned about onlyabba4me after his most recent post: he's been active and posting today in another forum, which I take to be a very promising sign. If you happen to come in and read this onlyabba4me, I hope you're feeling at least a little better. Maybe you could post a quick line to reassure all in here who've been worrying about you, that you're no longer feeling quite as rough as you were? All the best to you in the meantime.
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Post by josef on Mar 22, 2020 9:30:39 GMT
Yes, @onlyabba4me, I echo orf's sentiments. Please do take the time to alleviate the fear your last post instilled in other forum users. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 19:21:05 GMT
Onlyabba4me, my thoughts are with you. In 2015, I suffered from overwhelming depression. It took over completely obliterating any feeling of happiness I had. I felt numb and emotionless. There were times too when I questioned the existence of living under this black cloud which I thought would never lift. Somehow, I got through the worst of the depression but it hasn't left me off the hook so to speak. I still have bad days but I manage to plod on without taking medication.However, my anxiety issues remain a constant battle but I try to focus on the things that I enjoy. Unfortunately, we have no control over this terrible engulfing virus either. We plod on as best we can. I know it is very hard but I urge you to never allow your depression to gain the upper hand. Try to concentrate on the things you enjoy. My very best wishes.
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Post by bennybjorn on Apr 5, 2020 10:16:46 GMT
I'm wondering if this whole Corona thing will change the band's attitude at all to releasing new stuffs.
Might make them appreciate the urgency of it all a bit more, no time to waste etc, let's get these songs out there.
Wishful thinking perhaps!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2020 15:48:19 GMT
Bennybjorn, I honestly don't know whether ABBA will decide to push things forward regarding the release of the new songs. Life is on hold at the moment and we are all facing a challenging situation at this present time. I would love to hear that the songs will be released sooner than scheduled but alas I don't think it's going to take place. We are faced with yet another setback I'm afraid. Also, I am disappointed that I won't be visiting the ABBA exhibition in London as planned. I really wanted to go. Maybe there will be another opportunity in the future when this pandemic is over. Things are very alarming at the moment. Not promising if you suffer from depression and anxiety as I do.
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Post by gazman on Apr 7, 2020 17:25:18 GMT
I wouldn't imagine that ABBA would bring forward song release dates as a response to the current pandemic. As the songs are linked to the avatar project, quite the reverse is more possible, I would think.
If the production of the work on matching the avatar movements up to songs is delayed, which it could well be if the site of manufacture is in lockdown, I would imagine that the release dates will be pushed back several weeks or months. It will just have to be a case of 'watch for updates'.
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Post by bennybjorn on Apr 8, 2020 10:02:25 GMT
I wouldn't imagine that ABBA would bring forward song release dates as a response to the current pandemic. As the songs are linked to the avatar project, quite the reverse is more possible, I would think. If the production of the work on matching the avatar movements up to songs is delayed, which it could well be if the site of manufacture is in lockdown, I would imagine that the release dates will be pushed back several weeks or months. It will just have to be a case of 'watch for updates'. I'm not really thinking of the specifics of the avatar project. Just more generally from a heightened sense of mortality brought on by the virus. B&B seem to have spent the last few years cruising along as if they're young people with their lives stretching out ahead of them. It's amazing that the 4 of them have got back together recorded again. The priority now should simply be to get new songs out there in the public domain, not mess around with gimmicky stuff. Wishful thinking, perhaps! |
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Post by josef on Apr 8, 2020 13:12:41 GMT
I doubt if they'll release the songs early although of course it would be a nice lift for all of their fans in these uncertain times. To me, it makes perfect sense to release them now- these are exceptional circumstances but I just can't see BennyBjörn giving it the go ahead somehow. Disappointing, but not surprising. Ultimately, it's their right/choice to do whatever they see fit but to my mind it would be the right thing to do from a purely altruistic point of view.
Ah, well. Que sera sera.
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Post by HOMETIME on Apr 9, 2020 19:38:36 GMT
Perhaps they're all donating quietly and generously, but can you imagine the kind of money that could be raised in each country right now for, say, the production of PPE by releasing even one of these songs now?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 17:41:20 GMT
Tony, I can quite picture the amount of money raised if one of the songs was put out now. You ask yourself that niggling question when will we hear ABBA's new songs. The coronavirus has put everything on hold at present.
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Post by abbafanie on Apr 14, 2020 22:21:26 GMT
Hey all, long time ABBAChat reader here but decided to finally sign up as I saw that nobody had posted or commented on this yet.
Tweet this morning from a Swedish radio host, whose colleague revealed that he has apparently heard 'three new ABBA songs' and they are fantastic.
Others have reported that he was slightly mistranslated, and that he has heard three of the new ABBA songs, possibly implying the existence of more than three.
Who knows - all I know is that each passing day increases my impatience and anticipation, and that some new ABBA music would brighten up these sad times!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 23:34:43 GMT
Hi. This is interesting. Thanks for your post. We will one day be able to hear ABBA's new songs.
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Post by abbafanie on Apr 15, 2020 11:30:15 GMT
Hi. This is interesting. Thanks for your post. We will one day be able to hear ABBA's new songs. Sooner rather than later hopefully! Just realised earlier that it will soon be 2 years since they announced them - time flies! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 20:57:39 GMT
Others have reported that he was slightly mistranslated, and that he has heard three of the new ABBA songs, possibly implying the existence of more than three. Hej, and welcome to the forum! He did indeed say "Three of the new songs", which sounds a bit sensational. But I'm curious as to why he among all media personalities would have been allowed to hear them, and to mention it on the air. |
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Post by bennybjorn on Apr 15, 2020 21:44:27 GMT
Others have reported that he was slightly mistranslated, and that he has heard three of the new ABBA songs, possibly implying the existence of more than three. Hej, and welcome to the forum! He did indeed say " Three of the new songs", which sounds a bit sensational. But I'm curious as to why he among all media personalities would have been allowed to hear them, and to mention it on the air. We've had several reports of the group being back in the studio since the first two songs were recorded. Fairly recently (well, late in 2019 I think), Bjorn said he'd just been in the studio with the others, but they wouldn't let him say what they'd been up to. So not such a big surprise, really, but great news none the less. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 22:54:55 GMT
Yes, but this is the first confirmation from an outsider that there are several numbers in the making, so far as I can tell. Levengood is a well-known figure in Sweden, and did an in-depth TV interview with Frida back in the mid-nineties where they seemed to connect. So maybe he's considered a "trusted friend", like the selected ones whose opinions on yet to be released material they sought out back in the earlier days.
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Post by abbafanie on Apr 15, 2020 23:37:57 GMT
Others have reported that he was slightly mistranslated, and that he has heard three of the new ABBA songs, possibly implying the existence of more than three. Hej, and welcome to the forum! He did indeed say "Three of the new songs", which sounds a bit sensational. But I'm curious as to why he among all media personalities would have been allowed to hear them, and to mention it on the air. Exciting - the plot thickens! |
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Post by kruspetiddies on Apr 16, 2020 12:50:44 GMT
Hej, and welcome to the forum! He did indeed say "Three of the new songs", which sounds a bit sensational. But I'm curious as to why he among all media personalities would have been allowed to hear them, and to mention it on the air. Exciting - the plot thickens! Maybe this means we might be getting a new album after all? |
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Post by HOMETIME on Apr 16, 2020 14:34:47 GMT
This chimes with something I heard this week during a conversation with an industry insider. This person is a massive fan who also worked directly with one of the ABBA members some years ago (sorry, I know that is annoyingly coy, but I'm not sure what I can safely say without compromising someone). Anyway he, in turn, was in conversation with someone who was present in Mono Music (with very legitimate reason). The Mono insider has said that the current tally of completed songs is SIX!
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Post by kruspetiddies on Apr 16, 2020 15:02:10 GMT
This chimes with something I heard this week during a conversation with an industry insider. This person is a massive fan who also worked directly with one of the ABBA members some years ago (sorry, I know that is annoyingly coy, but I'm not sure what I can safely say without compromising someone). Anyway he, in turn, was in conversation with someone who was present in Mono Music (with very legitimate reason). The Mono insider has said that the current tally of completed songs is SIX! So an EP is going to get released in the future? |
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Post by HOMETIME on Apr 16, 2020 15:40:42 GMT
Nothing was said at all about what might be released, but my own guess would be that they are on their way to putting an album together. I imagine that the pandemic has stopped everything in its tracks for now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 17:25:01 GMT
This is exciting to hear that a new ABBA album is in the offing. Let us hope that life returns to normal soon so that we can hear the new material. Thanks for the updates, folks.
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Post by josef on Apr 17, 2020 9:28:42 GMT
I think it's important not to jump the gun. We don't know for sure there's a new album in the offing. It certainly looks that way and I hope it is but we've had no official, definitive confirmation yet.
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Post by HOMETIME on Apr 17, 2020 9:42:19 GMT
ABSOLUTELY! Let's not forget that there was another period in ABBA's history when six completed songs led to NO album. Instead, 1982 gave us two A-sides, 2 B-sides, a track that would not be released for 12 years, and a song that attained some mythical holy cow status by NOT being released (but would be recycled for a lesser act).
All I've heard is that there are six songs. Mention of the album was my own wild and wishful speculation, not a quote or a report.
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Post by Alan on Apr 17, 2020 10:38:50 GMT
^^ That was slightly different though. The first three of those 1982 songs were intended for a new album that year. The latter three were especially recorded for single release once the album had been abandoned. You Owe Me One was probably only resurrected as it was intended from an early point to be nothing more than a b-side anyway (and because there were only three new tracks and not four).
It’s the official line that’s still of some concern - they’ve insisted on many occasions that there are just two songs and although they haven’t quashed rumours entirely (indeed, they have helped fuel them at times), there’s still the get-out clause. If only two emerge from this (and these would have to be the two we already know the titles of to make it plausible), Björn and Benny could still say “well, we never actually said otherwise”.
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Post by abbafanie on Apr 17, 2020 15:38:28 GMT
^^ That was slightly different though. The first three of those 1982 songs were intended for a new album that year. The latter three were especially recorded for single release once the album had been abandoned. You Owe Me One was probably only resurrected as it was intended from an early point to be nothing more than a b-side anyway (and because there were only three new tracks and not four). It’s the official line that’s still of some concern - they’ve insisted on many occasions that there are just two songs and although they haven’t quashed rumours entirely (indeed, they have helped fuel them at times), there’s still the get-out clause. If only two emerge from this (and these would have to be the two we already know the titles of to make it plausible), Björn and Benny could still say “well, we never actually said otherwise”. Exactly - I imagine that they must realise that fan anticipation is so high for two songs that, if they mentioned or confirmed a full album before we've heard anything, it would reach fever pitch. Then again, as you say, the official line is rather strange - saying you only have two songs is very confusing as it implies that they are taking an eternity to be finished/perfected. The repeated questioning from journalists and fan fatigue with delays and vague answers will (hopefully!) encourage them to comment with solid, tangible plans when they have them. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2020 16:50:55 GMT
Maybe I was just cheering myself up and unwittingly jumping the gun. Anything to evade the present situation we are faced with. You are right guys, there is no official confirmation of a new ABBA album. I don't want to end up with egg on my face.
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