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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2023 11:05:08 GMT
Regarding the front covers, to be honest I hadn't given it any thought. But since Alan posted those 3 versions my order of preference
1st #3 - The picture seems clearer and it is the ABBA name. Font looks better too
2nd #1- In its original artist name but I always thought that clumsy.
3rd #2 - not very nice looking with that brown surround.
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Post by Alan on Mar 26, 2023 11:20:14 GMT
It’s an odd rendering of the names really. It could look like it’s referring to two people, with Benny and Frida respectively being Björn’s and Agnetha’s surnames. As there are four people on the cover, it cleared up any confusion. It’s not even alphabetical. Agnetha’s name (before either Anni-Frid or Frida) would be correct, as would her surname, but in that format Benny should be before Björn (it isn’t, and that’s because Björn was credited first on Lycka).
In terms of the ABBA name, I’d go strict alphabetical, so Agnetha as the first A and Benny as the first B, but this meant the then-couples weren’t together. Usually I’ve seen it stated that Anni-Frid is first and then Benny.
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Post by Alan on Mar 26, 2023 12:00:47 GMT
I’ve been looking at the various renditions of the Ring Ring album on Discogs. Some monstrosities on there! Australia/NZ, RCA 1975 Australia/NZ, Summit Concorde under licence from RCA, 1980 Australia/NZ, Rainbow under licence from BMG/Arista Ariola, 1988 Australia/NZ, Rainbow under licence from PolyGram, 1990 Unknown, but Polydor and made in West Germany, so a European country, likely 1970s Germany/Netherlands,Polydor. Includes Honey Honey but not I Saw It In The Mirror. 1979 Germany, Karussell Gold Serie, again no I Saw It In The Mirror but Honey Honey instead, 1975 UK, Castle Communications under licence from Bocu Music Ltd (ABBA’s UK publisher), 1988. Vinyl contains entirety of Sweden edition of Ring Ring on Sides 2 and 4, with ABBA Live on Sides 1 and 3. CD excludes Ring Ring (Swedish) and Rock ‘n’ Roll Band due to time constraints, but still mixes up the sides amongst those from ABBA Live.
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Post by ed on Mar 26, 2023 12:11:38 GMT
A white lie on my part ! I do own " Ring Ring " in my collection. I forgot to include " The Albums " ( CD boxset x 9 ) ( which I bought for a bargain at Sainsbury's before they scrapped their entire entertainment section ) and also, " The Studio Recordings " ( vinyl boxset which I also purchased for a reasonable price ). So, I do actually own ABBA's first studio album. What are my views. Well, I seldom listen to it. On the whole it is mediocre and the only worthy songs are " Ring Ring ". " Disillusion ", " Nina Pretty Ballerina " and " He Is Your Brother ". No offence I hope taken, Adam as I understand it is your favourite album. We all have our " babies " To be honest I quite like " I Am Just A Girl " . A quirky little ditty a little different to ABBA's usual standards. I am not going to buy The 50th Anniversary Edition I have decided.
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Post by tagaytay on Mar 26, 2023 12:17:31 GMT
In my place Manila the first three albums were not available . The first ABBA album sold here was the Best of ABBA, which wasnt even the official Polar release (with the gatefold sleeve). It was the second Album I bought after GH vol 2. I had to order Ring Ring from POP import maybe it was 1983 or 84. It was only available in LP and I didnt have a record player (I was only playing ABBA through a dictation casette player) so when it arrived I went to my friend's house and had it recorded on cassette tape. My first impression was it sounded really dated and old BUT i still loved it but I love al lot of old songs anyway. I really loved Me and Bobby... and Love Isnt Easy. My wife recently told me she thought Love Isnt Easy is a really cute song.
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Post by AdamDawson2003 on Mar 26, 2023 13:21:44 GMT
[...] The Visitors box set will be a much cheaper option as there will only be three singles in that release. According to Ian Cole, The Visitors box set will be released this Christmas. [...] I hope Ian is right - The Visitors is the set I've been most looking forward to. I wonder if TDBYC and UA will be included in the singles box and picture discs? The singles that will be in The Visitors box set are rumoured to be Head Over Heels/The Visitors One of Us/Should I Laugh Or Cry When All Is Said And Done/Soldiers Under Attack/You Owe Me One The Day Before You Came/Cassandra I would like it if Universal threw a curve ball and included 'Slipping Through My Fingers' as a single with 'Se Me Esta Escapando' as the B-Side it would be nice as 'Slipping Through My Fingers' was released as a single in Japan. I really would prefer it if the two singles from 1982 weren't included in 'The Visitors' box set as those songs and their B-Sides were intended for the unfinished 9th album and it would be better to include them as standalone singles I would like it if 'Cassandra' was made the A-Side but I know that won't happen. It will be interesting to see if 2024 follows the pattern of the Deluxe Editions and a Half Speed Master of the 'Gracias Por La Musica' album gets released along with a box set of singles and the 2014 Deluxe Edition practically confirmed it as a regular studio album and as its ABBA's only Spanish album it would be nice to complete the set. More ABBA Gold badly needs a Vinyl re-release as its the only way to get 'I Am The City' on Vinyl and its now the hardest ABBA compilation to find on Vinyl. I haven't bothered with the other Half Speed master albums as they didn't interest me but I will get 'Ring Ring' as its my favourite ABBA album and I will also buy The Visitors Half Speed master.
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Post by evilincarnate on Mar 26, 2023 13:40:12 GMT
I’ve been looking at the various renditions of the Ring Ring album on Discogs. Some monstrosities on there! Australia/NZ, RCA 1975 Hahahahaha! Whilst I agree that these covers are less than stellar, I have all of them except for the German Karussell Gold Serie LP, which would be a step too far, even for me. The Australian/NZ, RCA 1975 LP (pictured above) was the first issue of the album in Australia and my only point of reference as a child so I assumed this was the legitimate cover (not discovering the original image until quite some years later). This particular version is difficult to locate in good condition as it was cheaply pressed to captialise on Australia's obsession with ABBA at the time so did not fare well with the rigours of general wear and tear.
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Post by Alan on Mar 26, 2023 13:41:31 GMT
I really would prefer it if the two singles from 1982 weren't included in 'The Visitors' box set as those songs and their B-Sides were intended for the unfinished 9th album You’ve said that before but it’s not actually true. Only I Am The City, Just Like That and You Owe Me One were recorded for a possible new album but when it became clear that none of them were considered good enough, album project was abandoned. The other three 1982 songs were later recorded specifically for use on a greatest hits and as singles, never intended for a studio album. You Owe Me One got resurrected because they needed a second b-side, and likely because that’s all it would have been anyway. There are those that believe the other two songs were being saved for a 1983/84 album. Unlikely, as they’d already been cast aside.
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Post by Michel on Mar 26, 2023 14:55:46 GMT
I’m listening to it now. The Sweden edition, courtesy of the download that came with the coloured vinyl album box a few years ago. I'm joining you in the Ring Ring celebration fest! Listening to it right now, the SHM-CD from the CD album box set which has the original Swedish tracklist. I'm enjoying the album for what it is, the first tentative steps towards a collaboration as a foursome. I love its innocent charm, yes even I Saw It In The Mirror.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2023 15:37:05 GMT
At what point was a 9th studio album plan scrapped?
My understanding is the first 3 1982 songs recorded earlier in 1982 and the remaining 3 July/August time. I know TDBYC was recorded in August.
So Alan, you're saying ABBA decided first 3 not good enough (correct) but decided few more songs anyway for a GH album. How would they know how good they were if decision to go for GH before they were recorded? Have I misunderstood? Maybe re-post these about 1982 in another thread.
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Post by Alan on Mar 26, 2023 16:03:30 GMT
Good question, johnny. I don’t know. The same could be said of Gimme Gimme Gimme though. Maybe they spent more time on the latter three songs and hoped that two of them would be good enough as A-sides. Even if they weren’t, they would have to go with them anyway. The album was abandoned before August but not sure exactly when. They didn’t like Just Like That from the start. Not sure what the problem with I Am The City was though, other than that it wasn’t single material. I don’t think their hearts were in it, and too much animosity between Frida and Benny.
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Post by Alan on Mar 26, 2023 16:23:30 GMT
Just seen this variant on one of the socials. Japan, Philips December 1973. Removes Rock ‘n’ Roll Band. Opens with She’s My Kind of Girl and reshuffles other tracks.
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Post by HOMETIME on Mar 26, 2023 16:50:41 GMT
Just seen this variant on one of the socials. Japan, Philips December 1973. Removes Rock ‘n’ Roll Band. Opens with She’s My Kind of Girl and reshuffles other tracks. Jaysus! My eyes!! More ABBA Gold badly needs a Vinyl re-release as its the only way to get 'I Am The City' on Vinyl and its now the hardest ABBA compilation to find on Vinyl. Preach! A nice white vinyl reissue would be good. I really like More Gold - it's the compilation I enjoy most, because it included so many hidden gems. I got the first release that included the edits of The Visitors and Eagle and the alternate mix of Lovelight. I thought it a terrible shame that the second edition went for the 10-a-penny familiar versions.
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Post by AdamDawson2003 on Mar 26, 2023 22:10:39 GMT
I really would prefer it if the two singles from 1982 weren't included in 'The Visitors' box set as those songs and their B-Sides were intended for the unfinished 9th album You’ve said that before but it’s not actually true. Only I Am The City, Just Like That and You Owe Me One were recorded for a possible new album but when it became clear that none of them were considered good enough, album project was abandoned. The other three 1982 songs were later recorded specifically for use on a greatest hits and as singles, never intended for a studio album. You Owe Me One got resurrected because they needed a second b-side, and likely because that’s all it would have been anyway. There are those that believe the other two songs were being saved for a 1983/84 album. Unlikely, as they’d already been cast aside. 'Under Attack', 'Cassandra' & 'The Day Before You Came' would have been included on the 9th album had it been finished in 1982/1983 would have been rather ridiculous to have left them off the album and the fact that they already had 'You Owe Me One', 'Just Like That' & 'I Am The City' with 6 songs they had a half finished album already
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Post by AdamDawson2003 on Mar 26, 2023 22:44:31 GMT
I really wish that 'Love Has Its Ways' had been included as a bonus track on the 2013 Deluxe Version of Ring Ring as I consider it an ABBA song and its one of my favourite songs its really catchy and sounds fantastic.
My 3 favourite songs from the Ring Ring album are 'Nina Pretty Ballerina', 'Me And Bobby And Bobby's Brother' & 'Disillusion'.
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Post by Alan on Mar 27, 2023 7:07:31 GMT
'Under Attack', 'Cassandra' & 'The Day Before You Came' would have been included on the 9th album had it been finished in 1982/1983 would have been rather ridiculous to have left them off the album and the fact that they already had 'You Owe Me One', 'Just Like That' & 'I Am The City' with 6 songs they had a half finished album already Er… no. There was no album to speak of, it had already been abandoned. Those three tracks would not have appeared on any future album in the same way that Fernando or Gimme Gimme Gimme didn’t. As for Cassandra, no other non-album b-side appeared on a future album so why would that? I know you’d cobble together an album from the likes of Don’t Do It and Man etc but it really wouldn’t work like that.
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Post by Angelo on Mar 27, 2023 7:55:10 GMT
i think this is a must for every Abba fan.....Our Bobby's brother.He just spoke our heart in this one.I'm happy to support this precious Abba fan just look at this and peoples respond in its comment section.Quite moving.
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Post by Julian23 on Mar 29, 2023 7:51:46 GMT
i think this is a must for every Abba fan.....Our Bobby's brother.He just spoke our heart in this one.I'm happy to support this precious Abba fan just look at this and peoples respond in its comment section.Quite moving. Very nice to watch, wonder if ABBA themselves have seen this? Just noticed the colour scheme for the picture discs and their sleeves. You would have thought that they would have done the coloured vinyls in the same way, using the same tones. When Waterloo box set arrived next April I am hoping for something a bit more colour coordinated. Or maybe The Visitors box set. Not sure how many singles came off the Waterloo album - 3 at a guess?
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Post by HOMETIME on Mar 29, 2023 8:17:03 GMT
[...] Just noticed the colour scheme for the picture discs and their sleeves. You would have thought that they would have done the coloured vinyls in the same way, using the same tones. Exactly! The colours used for the die-cut sleeves and the B-sides are fantastic: they would have been far better for the coloured vinyls When Waterloo box set arrived next April I am hoping for something a bit more colour coordinated. Or maybe The Visitors box set. Not sure how many singles came off the Waterloo album - 3 at a guess? I think there were really only two singles - Waterloo and Honey, Honey. The remix of Ring, Ring was the second single in Ireland and the UK. Hasta Manana appeared in some territories. There are the Swedish versions to consider too. This is what I could find on Discogs: - Waterloo (Swedish) / Honey, Honey (Swedish) - Waterloo (English) / Watch Out - Honey, Honey / King Kong Song (the US version had DWTMSGO on the flip; others had Hasta Manana or Ring Ring) - Hasta Manana - came out in a few territories. Some had Watch Out on the flip; others had Honey Honey. - Ring, Ring [remix] / Rock 'n' Roll Band - would this be overkill, given the set that's coming in May?
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Post by Alan on Mar 29, 2023 14:00:40 GMT
The 40-single boxed set from 2014 was clearly the launch pad for the picture discs/coloured vinyl series. It seems they re-created/scanned the artwork for those and got them out on black vinyl first.
The sets so far have excluded any non-English, non-Swedish language singles (which were in that 2014 box). The only other omission was Happy New Year (Portuguese issue) presumably so as not to clash with the yearly releases of that song.
So yes, Waterloo should be three. The 2014 box did include the German issue of Honey Honey/Ring Ring remix, but I can’t see that being in next year’s sets.
If I’m right, the sets will be:
Waterloo - three singles ABBA - four The Visitors - five
So far: Arrival - four The Album - three Voulez-Vous - seven* Super Trouper - three Ring Ring - five
*Included Voulez-Vous (extended) - the only single so far that was not featured in the 2014 box.
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Post by iancee on Apr 2, 2023 10:42:42 GMT
[...] The Visitors box set will be a much cheaper option as there will only be three singles in that release. According to Ian Cole, The Visitors box set will be released this Christmas. [...] I hope Ian is right - The Visitors is the set I've been most looking forward to. I wonder if TDBYC and UA will be included in the singles box and picture discs? I haven’t said that The Visitors will be released this year. I have said that people in the know had said it will come this year. But there was also talk it would happen last year. It is feasible it could be scheduled for late this year, slotting in between Ring Ring in May and Waterloo next April (presumably).
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Post by HOMETIME on Apr 2, 2023 16:07:27 GMT
Thanks for that, Ian.
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Post by Fabian Angelosanto on Apr 3, 2023 23:39:30 GMT
🟥 RING RING: ANSWER THE PHONE 🟥 Hello ABBAfans and ABBAntologies!!! I wish you all a happy start. To CELEBRATE the 50th ANNIVERSARY of the RING RING ALBUM released, I have decided to make a NEW REMASTERED and UPDATED video to join this new celebration and thus start this new stage on this new channel and rescue what was lost, hoping that the trip will last for a LONG LONG TIME. For what I ask you, PLEASE that you ANSWER this call to the sound of the RING RING. The CALLING of "RING RING" deconstructed arrives at ABBANTOLOGIABBA. 7 NEW VIDEOS arrives!!!! Enjoy them and thanks so much for everything!! Let this ABBA VOYAGE continue with the first video. STAY TUNED & WATCH PREMIERE HERE -> UNOFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO SPECIAL VERSIONS: 🟥ALTERNATIVE VERSION 🟥US 1974 VERSION 🟥EXTENDED VERSION 🟥INSTRUMENTAL VERSION 🟥ISOLATED VOCALS VERSION 🟥LIVE VERSION 🟥REMIX VERSION 🟥MELODIFESTIVALEN VERSION 🟥MULTILINGUAL VERSION SUBSCRIBE: www.youtube.com/abbantologiabbavoyage
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Post by Alan on Apr 7, 2023 17:52:23 GMT
If anyone has some loose change lying around, there’s an opportunity on Discogs to acquire this. A snip at just £300 plus £2.50 postage. I’d love it but can’t justify that price for one 50-year-old single. As previously stated, it’s significant as it’s understood to be the first appearance of the ABBA name on record anywhere in the world (the UK being late to the party and not releasing the single until 12 October 1973). The date of the birth of “ABBA” is there, though this promo single would have been circulating within the music industry before then. And no troublesome individual names in parenthesis, though the UK would later be forced to carry them for all Waterloo-related releases in 1974 (including the Ring Ring remix). (Nerd alert: the Epic company sleeve still uses the previous Epic radial logo and wasn’t amended to the record-“e” logo until the orange label period).
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Post by Alan on Apr 11, 2023 17:33:20 GMT
Looks like Amazon Germany have cancelled all orders for this deal, as the price was wrong.
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Post by HOMETIME on May 19, 2023 18:32:47 GMT
I spotted some "unboxing" posts on Insta today. Looks like deliveries of the half-speed and the box set are starting to arrive. Anyone here got theirs yet?
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Post by Alan on May 19, 2023 18:51:53 GMT
Not even ordered it yet! I’m hoping the prices will fall. I waited about six months on the Voulez-Vous issues and that paid off. Plus I’m less interested in these than I have been in the others. I’m sure I will get them (having got the other four so far, I can hardly stop now) but I don’t feel as much urgency. I object to paying more than £10 each for a 7” record!
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Post by evilincarnate on May 20, 2023 8:12:45 GMT
I spotted some "unboxing" posts on Insta today. Looks like deliveries of the half-speed and the box set are starting to arrive. Anyone here got theirs yet? I pre-ordered the various versions but don't expect to receive them for a couple of weeks given that I'm in Australia (these are not getting a local release). Whilst I'm not a huge fan of the album, I like what I've seen of the box and individual singles. I'm really keen for the 1975 self-titled album to get the full treatment - after 'The Visitors', of course.
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Post by HOMETIME on May 20, 2023 9:41:23 GMT
I'm not a fan of the album either but the singles boxes have been well-handled so far. I love that they have made a picture disc out of the company sleeve for one of the singles!
I wonder how the set for Waterloo will be handled... Three discs? Waterloo/Honey Honey [Swedish]; Waterloo/Watch Out [English]; Honey Honey/King Kong Song [English]? It's not wildly exciting. The set for ABBA could be nicely timed for its 50th anniversary in 2025.
Yes, roll on the set for The Visitors. I'm really looking forward to that one.
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Post by evilincarnate on May 20, 2023 11:05:36 GMT
Tony, I love that record company sleeve picture disc as well - it's definitely my favourite of these reissued singles and consider it absolute genius. What wouldn't necessarily compel me with a standard release has absolutely captivated me as a picture disc. Fantastic stuff!
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