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Post by voyage2 on Aug 31, 2023 11:36:58 GMT
I often wonder why Frida hasn't recorded another solo album. Andante Andante with Arturo Sandoval was wonderful (although I missed the long note)! And she certainly still has it going by her vocals on Voyage!
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Post by Alan on Aug 31, 2023 12:06:04 GMT
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Post by Alan on Aug 31, 2023 12:10:14 GMT
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Post by voyage2 on Aug 31, 2023 12:19:35 GMT
Wow! Thank you for that Alan. She looks absolutely beautiful in that photo! What a lovely note too. Soooo happy!
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Post by Alan on Aug 31, 2023 12:34:41 GMT
Just spent £74 on the standard CD, the crystal clear double vinyl and the picture disc. As it’s a bundle, the CD single is also included.
I will resist the white vinyl though, as that was done for Voyage (and also Arrival in the coloured vinyl albums box).
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Post by Michel on Aug 31, 2023 13:45:55 GMT
I'm not in a hurry to pre-order and I'm definitely not going to buy multiple copies of this as I did with "Voyage". At the most I'm going to get the standard CD, depending on what the reimagining sounds like. I already have three copies of "A" (the standard CD, the deluxe edition and the Japanese SHM CD).
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Post by Alan on Aug 31, 2023 13:50:28 GMT
I'm not in a hurry to pre-order and I'm definitely not going to buy multiple copies of this as I did with "Voyage". At the most I'm going to get the standard CD, depending on what the reimagining sounds like. I already have three copies of "A" (the standard CD, the deluxe edition and the Japanese SHM CD). I wasn’t going to but I read the other day that the original “A” vinyl now goes for hundreds. Not seen that for myself, that was a comment on another forum. It’s ridiculous really, it was readily available in shops at the time. I tend to limit it to things I’m really interested in though. The picture disc design is a bit silly, but I don’t have a “crystal clear” vinyl as ABBA haven’t done one yet. The CD single only in bundles should be a rarity, but depends on how long these bundles are available for.
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Post by iiwftn on Aug 31, 2023 14:49:34 GMT
It’s actually a very decent little pop song by the 3rd/4th listen.
Good on her. She sounded really happy on Radio 2 this morning.
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Post by Alan on Aug 31, 2023 15:51:20 GMT
Not sure about the album… I picked up on this in the BBC online interview…
Referring to Back On Your Radio, the track used to test it:
"We started to listen and I just felt, oh, this is incredible. How can Jörgen do this with my voice?" said Agnetha. "It's the same singing, so I don't know how he's done it. It's like the song has new clothes."
This suggests it’s the original vocals but processed… not sure I’m going to like it.
There is some hope though… "Elofsson's production does the unthinkable - filtering her voice through vocoders and Auto-Tune and a myriad of contemporary digital effects. “We've been very careful with those kinds of things," he says. "We wanted to treat her vocals like they're holy, so when we use those things, it's more for effect.”
The single is OK. I’d have preferred natural vocals.
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Post by Michel on Aug 31, 2023 16:01:34 GMT
There is some hope though… "Elofsson's production does the unthinkable - filtering her voice through vocoders and Auto-Tune and a myriad of contemporary digital effects.” That's actually the part that makes me think I'm not going to like it. I would have preferred a subtle, stripped down orchestral version of the album, with Agnetha's natural voice front and center.
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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 31, 2023 16:22:52 GMT
I listened to the interview on my way to work - Agnetha was charm personified. I've listened to the song a few times now. It definitely has the same DNA as the album and could easily have been part of the original set. Agnetha's vocals in the verses sound very much like they do on Voyage. As joseph notes, the lovely little cracks and creaks add a lot of warmth. The vocals are heavily processed from the bridge onwards, but that is par for the course with most modern pop - and this production aims squarely for that feel. It also has that 90s retro vibe that's fashionable right now. It's bright, and sounds like a natural sibling for, say, Back On Your Radio or Perfume In The Breeze. Don't shoot me, but I'm really not wild about the song. I think that had it been on the original album, it might never have seen active duty as a single. Not when WYRLS, ISHFYH and even (the over-rated) DYPA were more obvious candidates. I think the chorus takes a little too long to deliver the hook. But maybe it'll continue to grow on me. It's certainly better than some of the original songs. My personal view, of course. I totally understand that the release will have some people in raptures. Given the sound of the new single and the rejigging of the running order, I have a feeling that the "reimagination" will probably add a little bounce to the original set. When I saw that there were 2-disc editions, I sort of imagined that the second disc would be dance remixes (like the slightly house-y remix sample of WDWGFH). But it looks like the second disc is actually the original album? The good news is that there is plenty to tempt collectors, with white vinyl, crystal clear vinyl, picture disc, CDs and the CD-single. All in all, it makes up for the relative disappointment of this not being a brand new album after all. Given that Agnetha gave lots of her time to Zoe Ball this morning, I bet the single will be playlisted. A great result for Agnetha's very assertive PR team!
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Post by Alan on Aug 31, 2023 16:24:50 GMT
Yes, that bit fills me with dread, Michel. It was Elofsson’s subsequent comments that give me a bit of hope. Not much though. At least it is her original 2012 vocals, however they’ve been processed, rather than new ones. Usually re-recordings offer new lead vocals and they’re rarely - if ever - as good as the originals.
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Post by Tinneke on Aug 31, 2023 16:57:28 GMT
Nr. 1 iTunes UK and the Netherlands, nr. 4 Sweden, nr. 3 Germany
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Post by joseph on Aug 31, 2023 17:09:54 GMT
I am not crazy about the song either but I may yet become so. I doubt it though. I'm ok with the voice processing thing although I must say I'm usually vehemently against autotune or whatever this is but I get it~ she's 73... it's 2023, yada yada. I will be honest and say my preference would be a sparse production with Agnetha's voice centre, flaws and all. But that's just what it is, my preference. I still think this is a bouncy pop tune, it radiates happiness and I may grow to like it more with time. I seem to have two extreme likes when it comes to Agnetha's voice- a really sparse, melancholic production or one with every whistle and bell in a trancey-dance anthem-like way: think the Soundfactory mixes of WYWITR lol
I guess I will always adore My Colouring Book. That's my numero uno. Her voice is magnificent on that.
For some reason, Where Do We Go From Here reminded me a little of Petula Clark, the song 'Cut Copy Me' in particular. I'll have to have a listen and see if I'm right or just imagining it.
Well, I listened to Petula's song (recorded when she was 79!) and there's vocal treatment going on but it doesn't detract, I still enjoy the song. I am no expert but I'm guessing this kind of thing is par for the course these days- i.e. recording an artist's vocals and then playing around/enhancing them as you might do with any instrument?
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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 31, 2023 17:23:40 GMT
For some reason, Where Do We Go From Here reminded me a little of Petula Clark, the song 'Cut Copy Me' in particular. I'll have to have a listen and see if I'm right or just imagining it. Well, I listened to Petula's song (recorded when she was 79!) and there's vocal treatment going on but it doesn't detract, I still enjoy the song. I am no expert but I'm guessing this kind of thing is par for the course these days- i.e. recording an artist's vocals and then playing around/enhancing them as you might do with any instrument? I love Cut Copy Me. There's another beauty on that album called Next To You. Petula is a great example of an older artist staying true to herself. I have to agree that a brand new album in an organic style a la MCB would have been fantastic. Maybe this project will encourage Agnetha back to the studio.
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Post by Alan on Aug 31, 2023 18:01:03 GMT
Nr. 1 iTunes UK and the Netherlands, nr. 4 Sweden, nr. 3 Germany It means so little though. Hardly anyone downloads anymore (well, legally anyway).
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Post by joseph on Aug 31, 2023 19:16:50 GMT
Another new picture of Agnetha.
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Post by clumsylikeaclown on Aug 31, 2023 19:33:14 GMT
I'll admit I didn't like the song too much. Agnetha's voice is the highlight naturally, but the production especially during the chorus is just... eh. And the melody isn't the smoothest either.
I might listen to it a couple more times to be sure but for now, it's a solid 4/10.
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Post by Alan on Aug 31, 2023 20:20:54 GMT
Another new photo: Colour version of the album cover shot:
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Post by Alan on Aug 31, 2023 20:25:17 GMT
By the way, have you noticed that I Should Have Followed You Home seems not to have been remixed? All other songs have A+ behind them but ISHFYH doesn't. Or is it just because there is a text "feat. Gary Barlow" in the brackets behing the title of the song and so they forgot to add A+ (also in brackets) behind it? On the tracklisting on SuperDeluxeEdition, that song does have the A+, so I’m guessing that what you saw must have been an error? I’m assuming the re-ordered A+ tracklisting is for vinyl timing purposes to accommodate the additional track (so that the the two sides are as near to equal length as possible). Also possible that some of the tracks are of different lengths to the originals.
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Post by BAAB on Aug 31, 2023 20:54:45 GMT
It means so little though. Hardly anyone downloads anymore (well, legally anyway). Right Alan, but she's #6 in the worlwide iTunes Charts now, also in Australia #6 and #1 in many EU countries, that somehow creates awareness and indicates that the PR worked so far...
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Post by AdamDawson2003 on Aug 31, 2023 22:36:00 GMT
I love 'Where Do We Go From Here' its a fantastic song and Agnetha sounds better than ever when I listen to it and the songs on Voyage I picture her as she looked in 1983 she even sounds like she did her voice has not changed at she has really looked after it.
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Post by Henry on Sept 1, 2023 9:12:11 GMT
I LOVE this song. I love her vocals and what they did with it. Cant get it out of my head
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Post by johnny on Sept 1, 2023 9:17:55 GMT
Agnetha #1 on itunes in The Netherlands, Sweden and the UK.
I wonder why it was released on a Thursday when chart sales are Friday to Thursday? It was the same with the Voyage songs.
It won't be in the charts today but should make download and sales charts - for what it's worth.
I have forgotten what the song actually sounds like. It had that much of an impression on me 😃
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Post by richard on Sept 1, 2023 10:04:27 GMT
In his interview with Rick Beato, Björn spoke positively of AI models that he'd heard - astonishingly good, or something to that effect. So since a number of comments here indicate acceptance or approval of the treatment of Agnetha's vocals in this song, what about an AI vocal model, a deepfake emulation of her natural younger voice? Think of the implications of that, and if the same was done to Frida's voice.
Regarding the song itself, I agree with Johnny - I find it forgettable, too.
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Post by Tinneke on Sept 1, 2023 11:20:52 GMT
Well Richard and Johnny,
It is not forgettable. it says more about you 2. A shame really. Everywhere the reactions are positive but not here on this sour forum.
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 1, 2023 11:49:33 GMT
Well Richard and Johnny, It is not forgettable. it says more about you 2. A shame really. Everywhere the reactions are positive but not here on this sour forum. What does it say about them, Tinneke? Spell it out. I don't rate the song either. What does it say about me? Are we obliged to like something just because it's by your favourite group member?
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 1, 2023 11:55:09 GMT
Looking at these photos of Agnetha, I think the A+ cover photo may be from the original A session. Ditto the one of her leaning on the piano. The haircut and clothing are very similar. I think that there's been a little less post-production on the shots than in 2013. That gorgeous outdoor shot of her in the black coat is deffo from the original A era too. To my eye (and I could be proven wrong), the single sleeve, the colour photo from the BBC and the black-and-white shot that Joseph posted look like they're from this year. I wonder if there'll be videos for the reimaginings and/or the new single?
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Post by richard on Sept 1, 2023 12:12:29 GMT
Well Richard and Johnny, It is not forgettable. it says more about you 2. A shame really. Everywhere the reactions are positive but not here on this sour forum. What does it say about them, Tinneke? Spell it out. I don't rate the song either. What does it say about me? Are we obliged to like something just because it's by your favourite group member? Thanks Tony. I was about to say something very similar - on my own behalf - but you've done it briefer and better!
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Post by Alan on Sept 1, 2023 12:28:51 GMT
Well Richard and Johnny, It is not forgettable. it says more about you 2. A shame really. Everywhere the reactions are positive but not here on this sour forum. That’s not true though is it? Joseph mentioned that he’d seen someone refer to the song as “horrible” and that word wasn’t used on here, so clearly reactions are not positive “everywhere”. Some people make the mistake of believing that you have to like everything an artist does to call yourself a “fan”. That isn’t the case at all. Stop trying to shame this forum and the people on it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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