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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 8:56:33 GMT
Most pop songs like to hammer home a chorus, unleashing it three, four or more times so you really get the point. Some songs, though, have the confidence (or whatever) to avoid doing that. In some cases, such is their brilliance, they leave you blissfully unaware of the fact that you only get a couple of 'looks' at the chorus. David Bowie's 'Life on Mars' and Kate Bush's 'Babooshka' are two excellent examples. Can't think of any of ABBA's big-hitting numbers that use this approach - is that correct? DQ comes close; it gives you two and a half choruses - half at the start, then two later. (Some songs, of course, don't have a conventional chorus at all - TWTIA being a prime instance.)
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Post by richard on Jan 18, 2024 15:09:52 GMT
I get the impression that many (most?) pop songs, pre-70s, were far less verse-and-chorus than subsequently. Indeed, with ABBA, I think Super Trouper might be a rarity: one the group's big hit singles that actually has a bridge/middle eight; whereas I think a lot hit songs before the ABBA era are more verse and bridge in structure. Certainly, a lot of Beatles songs are, for example. That's not to say they don't often have choruses, too, of course.
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Post by clumsylikeaclown on Jan 18, 2024 16:47:36 GMT
For another 'sort of' example, I've Been Waiting For You has two choruses proper, then a 'na na na' outro to the tune of the chorus. Angeleyes also has two regular choruses then a bridge/half chorus combined (starting with 'crazy 'bout his angeleyes....')
For proper 'just two choruses' examples, there's I Wonder (Departure) and I Let The Music Speak. Not big singles or even singles at all, mind...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2024 10:59:14 GMT
For another 'sort of' example, I've Been Waiting For You has two choruses proper, then a 'na na na' outro to the tune of the chorus. Angeleyes also has two regular choruses then a bridge/half chorus combined (starting with 'crazy 'bout his angeleyes....') For proper 'just two choruses' examples, there's I Wonder (Departure) and I Let The Music Speak. Not big singles or even singles at all, mind... Good shouts - I'd never really properly 'clocked' what Angeleyes does chorus-wise. Always too mesmerised by the trilly keyboard riff/ah-ah-ah bit, which (for me) is the song's real hook-fest, rather than the chorus itself. Will have another listen now.
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Post by ed on Jan 19, 2024 19:04:40 GMT
Sometimes great pop songs do not necessarily require a central chorus ie " The Winner Takes It All " or " The Day Before You Came ".
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Post by mymamasaid on Jan 20, 2024 15:30:30 GMT
Most pop songs like to hammer home a chorus, unleashing it three, four or more times so you really get the point. Some songs, though, have the confidence (or whatever) to avoid doing that. In some cases, such is their brilliance, they leave you blissfully unaware of the fact that you only get a couple of 'looks' at the chorus. David Bowie's 'Life on Mars' and Kate Bush's 'Babooshka' are two excellent examples. Can't think of any of ABBA's big-hitting numbers that use this approach - is that correct? DQ comes close; it gives you two and a half choruses - half at the start, then two later. (Some songs, of course, don't have a conventional chorus at all - TWTIA being a prime instance.) Can I say that I always find it really hard to figure out the song from the acronym, apart from the easy ones like DQ, some kind of mental pathway blocked :-D.
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