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Post by 15/11/79 on Oct 22, 2014 22:48:40 GMT
Oh, it's walking in the moonlight, is it? I'm a bit embarrassed now about my recent karaoke performance 
Well, it's an old chestnut and this is the lyrics discussion thread. What do we reckon? I've set the clip to start at what is prob'ly the most contentious example:
Yeah - it's well dodgy alright, and I reckon Bjorn knew exactly what he was singing at the time (still controversial to this day). |
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Post by Ausfan on Oct 23, 2014 14:15:55 GMT
Oh, it's walking in the moonlight, is it? I'm a bit embarrassed now about my recent karaoke performance
Well, it's an old chestnut and this is the lyrics discussion thread. What do we reckon? I've set the clip to start at what is prob'ly the most contentious example:
Yeah - it's well dodgy alright, and I reckon Bjorn knew exactly what he was singing at the time (still controversial to this day). Well actually, to me, it sounds more like 'hugging' with a cute Swedish take on the 'gg'  It certainly doesn't sound like 'walking' - and hugging makes more sense as the activity before lovemaking  |
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Post by Zeebee on Jan 3, 2015 22:37:13 GMT
There is an "aha" in the chorus of The King Has Lost His Crown, between "He's clumsy like a clown" and "The world is upside down".
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Post by Zeebee on Jan 22, 2015 22:04:58 GMT
The feel/conceal rhymes have been discussed. There are minute/in it rhymes in at least two ABBA songs. Can anyone come up with them?
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Post by lovepigeon on Jan 23, 2015 0:17:45 GMT
Move On and STMF.
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Post by Zeebee on Jan 26, 2015 21:50:56 GMT
OMG, I had forgotten about the minute/in it rhyme in Move On! But I knew someone would quickly come up with STMF. There is a minute/in it rhyme in at least one more ABBA song. Let's see if anyone can come up with that one. |
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Post by lovepigeon on Jan 27, 2015 8:13:21 GMT
Me & I?
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Post by Zeebee on Jan 29, 2015 21:34:52 GMT
Yes, Me And I is the one. Darn, I thought I might stump everyone with that one.
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Post by shoshin on Aug 29, 2015 0:00:15 GMT
OK so indulge me by copy/pasting this into Google and noting the number of results:
"so long" "you wanna have me tonight"
Now try this
"so long" "you won't have me tonight"
Now, the results seem to indicate that I'm alone in the universe on this. But surely to goodness it's obviously 'wanna'? Because, well, that's what they're singing for one thing! Besides, the 'alright alright alright' is meant to be ambiguous enough to momentarily give the poor rich kid a bit of hope before ruthlessly crushing him. 'Alright x 3' wouldn't make sense after won't instead of wanna. Yet I must admit that on the rediscovered TOTP performance, which is a different recording, the first verse in particular does sound as if they really are singing 'won't'.
I wonder, were there sleeve lyrics on the ABBA album to confirm the correct lyrics?
Wanna surely? (even though the clip's captions say won't!)
Won't maybe?
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Post by shoshin on Oct 8, 2015 0:44:39 GMT
^^ Bumping this post now that the thread is in its own section. What do we reckon?
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Post by Zeebee on Oct 10, 2015 15:41:13 GMT
OK so indulge me by copy/pasting this into Google and noting the number of results: "so long" "you wanna have me tonight"Now try this "so long" "you won't have me tonight"Now, the results seem to indicate that I'm alone in the universe on this. But surely to goodness it's obviously 'wanna'? Because, well, that's what they're singing for one thing! Besides, the 'alright alright alright' is meant to be ambiguous enough to momentarily give the poor rich kid a bit of hope before ruthlessly crushing him. 'Alright x 3' wouldn't make sense after won't instead of wanna. Yet I must admit that on the rediscovered TOTP performance, which is a different recording, the first verse in particular does sound as if they really are singing 'won't'. I wonder, were there sleeve lyrics on the ABBA album to confirm the correct lyrics? Wanna surely? (even though the clip's captions say won't!) Won't maybe? According to the lyrics booklet in the CSR box set, it's "you won't have me tonight", but you have a point about "alright x 3". |
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Post by shoshin on Oct 10, 2015 16:15:36 GMT
According to the lyrics booklet in the CSR box set, it's "you won't have me tonight", but you have a point about "alright x 3". I wonder, what does the CSR booklet say for Dancing Queen: "diggin'" or "dig in" ? |
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Post by Zeebee on Oct 12, 2015 20:30:06 GMT
I don't know, Martin. I'll look it up.
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Post by Zeebee on Oct 15, 2015 20:54:22 GMT
I looked up the lyrics to Dancing Queen in the lyrics booklet in the CSR box set. It says "dig in". It also says "dig in" on the sleeve of the Arrival album.
Btw, in So Long, it's actually "alright x 4".
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Post by shoshin on Oct 15, 2015 22:36:22 GMT
I looked up the lyrics to Dancing Queen in the lyrics booklet in the CSR box set. It says "dig in". It also says "dig in" on the sleeve of the Arrival album. Btw, in So Long, it's actually "alright x 4". Thanks for this. I was hoping the CSR box set incorrectly said 'diggin' so that I could cast doubt on its accuracy when it said 'won't' in So Long  The single clearly sounds like 'wanna' to me, but the TOTP performance is just as clearly 'won't'. I've been looking at various uploads of So Long on YouTube, in which there are close ups on the girls' faces during the lead up to the chorus, and even slowing it down to try to lip read. It seems to me that Frida is singing 'wanna' and Agnetha might be singing 'won't'! I think I'm going to have to admit defeat if the box set says 'won't', but I am so disappointed! When Single Ladies was misguidedly hailed as a feminist anthem in some quarters, I remember thinking that So Long was a much more effective exemplar, more than thirty years earlier. There is something far more feisty and in keeping with the rest of the lyrics about 'wanna?...alright...so long'. |
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Post by shoshin on Jan 26, 2016 0:21:31 GMT
Björn was from time to time a lazy librettist. In TFTPOO 'Alice Whiting' is there just because it is coupled with 'exciting'. If the husky voice had been 'enchanting' she would have been named 'Alice Banting' or something. It's not just limited to names; Dum Dum Diddle might easily have been called Yum Yum Yellow if he had played the cello. And it's not just limited to rhyming; sometimes the name or nonsense word may be inserted just to complete a line or make it scan. In OLS, what does it add to the song that the guy's name is Harry?
How many other examples of lazy lyrics can we find?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 20:53:30 GMT
This is artwork by noted American artist Bruce Nauman that hangs on Benny's office wall, seriously. |
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Post by Zeebee on Feb 1, 2016 21:40:08 GMT
noted American artist Bruce Nauman I am an American, and I have never heard of Bruce Nauman. |
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Post by Zeebee on Feb 15, 2016 22:04:21 GMT
Here is a trivia question about ABBA lyrics: Name the two ABBA songs whose lyrics include the words "slam the door".
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Post by shoshin on Feb 15, 2016 22:35:06 GMT
Here is a trivia question about ABBA lyrics: Name the two ABBA songs whose lyrics include the words "slam the door". There's sure to be some door slamming in One Man, One Woman |
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Post by Zeebee on Feb 15, 2016 22:46:00 GMT
Yes, the words "slam the door" are in the first verse of One Man, One Woman:
You leave and you slam the door
Like you've done many times before
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Post by HOMETIME on Feb 16, 2016 11:27:36 GMT
The other song is Mamma Mia:
"And when you go,
when you slam the door,
I think you know
that you won't be away too long"
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Post by Zeebee on Feb 18, 2016 21:53:14 GMT
Yes. I thought someone would get Mamma Mia before One Man, One Woman.
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Post by shoshin on Feb 18, 2016 23:33:41 GMT
Björn was from time to time a lazy librettist. In TFTPOO 'Alice Whiting' is there just because it is coupled with 'exciting'. If the husky voice had been 'enchanting' she would have been named 'Alice Banting' or something. It's not just limited to names; Dum Dum Diddle might easily have been called Yum Yum Yellow if he had played the cello. And it's not just limited to rhyming; sometimes the name or nonsense word may be inserted just to complete a line or make it scan. In OLS, what does it add to the song that the guy's name is Harry? How many other examples of lazy lyrics can we find? No takers for the lazy lyrics game? Surely Carrie is only Carrie because she's not the kind of girl you'd marry. Today she would be Linda not the kind of girl you'd Tinder. |
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Post by ninaprettyballerina on Feb 20, 2016 16:27:39 GMT
Surely Carrie is only Carrie because she's not the kind of girl you'd marry. Today she would be Linda not the kind of girl you'd Tinder. And Fred is only called Fred because My Mama Said |
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Post by shoshin on Oct 8, 2017 1:01:07 GMT
The songwriters themselves readily admit that Dum Dum Diddle wasn't Bjorn's finest hour. But it's not the only ABBA song that features the word (well, it's not a word but you know what i mean) 'dum' in the lyrics.
Can you think of another one?
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Oct 8, 2017 7:21:48 GMT
ding-dong bing-bong in Ring Ring (Bara...)?
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Post by chron on Oct 12, 2017 0:55:14 GMT
Bang-A-Boomerang's chorus has a line with about six 'dums' in it!
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It certainly doesn't sound like 'walking' - and hugging makes more sense as the activity before lovemaking 
