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Post by Visitor1982 on Jun 2, 2024 18:02:26 GMT
baab You can believe Scotty, or whoever that is, I know it is nonsense. I don't know the source you have to be able to state that the story which comes from "Scotty" is pure nonsense, but I know that "Scotty" told us in late 2018 already that "Just A Notion" is planned to be released together with the 2 new songs. I have therefore no reason to not believe him, when he reported that Agnetha and Mike worked together in the studio on Just Like That in the last week of August and first week of September 1982 in a break of filming "Raskenstam" and that Benny and Björn were only occasionaly available in the studio during that week, resulting in a final Version of the Song. He claims that this final version includes the Saxophone from R.Ravenscroft but is not the version we know from bootlegs or from the ABBA undeleted mix. Of course, until this version is released no proof can be given. You know what. You think what you think is right and so will I. Marnix |
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Post by HOMETIME on Jun 3, 2024 11:04:14 GMT
Regarding Just Like That, B&B were absolutely 100% involved in the recording of that song. It's not a Tretow/Agnetha production. You honestly believe B&B would step out during a vocal recording session for an ABBA song? The one exception was the Gracias Por La Musica album. I've been hearing weird stories from fans, like claiming Frida isn't on the song, whilst you can clearly hear her on the recording. I do not doubt, that Frida is on the recording but I also do not doubt the story from the "ABBA Forum" member"Scotty"who knows Agnetha very well. He stated in a recent comment: "Benny may have written the basic melody and Björn the lyrics, but almost all ABBA fans now know that Agnetha put the most work into this song in particular and that she did so at a time when Benny and Björn were no longer interested in ABBA , once again put her heart and soul into this recording. She re-arranged it, alone in the studio with Micke Tretow, completely re-arranged it vocally, modified it, re-sung it, etc. etc. Björn, but especially Benny, always blocked this publication with any excuses, even though Agnetha communicated her desire for publication several times. Benny exploited the song, used parts for his own songs, had them sung by all sorts of artists, be it Gemini, Angelika Milster and a few others,... Yes, he wanted it (together with Björn) even use it as a "teaser" for the Mamma Mia musical....... But he has blocked the original version by his bandmate Agnetha Fältskog to this day. Everything Benny has said about this over the years are flimsy excuses for me. He contradicted himself several times in the reasons for this and some of his statements were factually incorrect (not completed). Benny doesn't owe his OK for a JLT release to a single ABBA fan (although they would of course be happy about it), but he would have owed it to his colleague Agnetha. The whole thing is a very sad matter for me, even though I almost don't care about it now." I know that some "ABBA Forum" members do question his personal connection to Agnetha, but I believe Scotty 100%, as he has too much personal insight like e.g.for her solo projects, etc.etc. This is fascinating, if true. Did Scotty say this on this forum, or the old one? My dodgy old-guy brain can't recall any of this, so I'm fascinated to find Scotty's profile and read through his posts for nuggets that I've missed! These kinds of details are right up my street.I can't find his name anywhere. Not to throw cold water on the report, but can you say whether Scotty is a friend of Agnetha's or someone who just has some kind of connection? What I mean is that there could be a difference in something that came straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak, and from someone whose information could have been diluted by the telling and retelling of a story down a chain of people. Also, it could possibly also be coloured by intense fandom, someone wanting something to be true (not an unusual phenomenon in fan circles). Not saying that this is the case, but if he really has the scoop, we need him on board as a regular participant! I assume your post includes his direct quote, which is helpful. His tone seems a bit heated. Bitter, even. I'm curious about the claim that " almost all ABBA fans now know that Agnetha put the most work into this song..." It's not a claim I had ever heard before. But it looks like you might have lifted this quote from another site, so it's probably a case of different realms of fandom having different views, topics of conversation, and sources of information. On the subject of JLT generally, it's good to see some kind of shift in the talk about the song. Benny finally conceding that it's "not too bad" is quite something! Reading about Frida's great fondness for it was something new to me a few months ago, and her comments suggest she was willing to return to the studio to fix the "problems" that Benny had mentioned. (She also speaks about the vocal interplay between her and Agnetha, which dispels the comments by that other fan). So at least 50% of ABBA wants the song released. Possibly 75% - I doubt that Bjorn really is as stubborn about the recording as Benny is/was. So it's good to hear that Ludvig is "working on it"! The question now is, how will it be delivered? As part of a new compilation or anthology - or a further expanded edition of The Visitors? Scotty sounds like a very interesting person. If you have a connection with him, please encourage him to post here sometimes. |
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Post by Alan on Jun 3, 2024 12:39:33 GMT
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Post by HOMETIME on Jun 3, 2024 15:08:48 GMT
Ah. I see. A cursory glance at the posts suggests an agenda. Oh well.
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Post by baab on Jun 3, 2024 18:27:29 GMT
Sorry, I was talking about the GERMAN "ABBA Forum". As I'm a German fan I read in both Forums. E.g. here is a link to the German JLT thread: forum.abba.de/forum/index.php?thread/5372-alles-zu-just-like-that/And the user is actually "Scotty11", because he once inactivated his "Scotty"account and needed to merge the new with the old one. But under this account all postings are still available. There have been many times when forum users doubted his personal relationship with Agnetha, but as I wrote before, I have reason to not doubt his personal relationship. He claims that Agnetha wanted and wants to have JLT to be released and that this is still important to her. He also reported that Agnetha was the one who already was willing to record new music with ABBA in 2014! Back then, the other 3 seem to have been less enthusiastic about it. As Visitors1982 already stated: Everyone can believe whatever is true or not. Well, I agree with that. But also I'm happy to learn from a reliable source like "Scotty". |
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Post by eddie on Jun 5, 2024 16:20:16 GMT
At least ITN news managed to show all four members of ABBA receiving their knighthood at the award ceremony in Sweden last Friday. It was a nice surprise. No coverage by BBC news though. They don't have time for ABBA obviously.
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Post by johnny on Jun 5, 2024 16:30:43 GMT
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Post by justabba on Jun 5, 2024 17:13:20 GMT
The BBC completely ignored it. Not even on the news app. Shocking. |
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Post by Alan on Jun 5, 2024 18:52:36 GMT
The BBC completely ignored it. Not even on the news app. Shocking. I wouldn’t say it’s shocking. Had ABBA not previously reunited then it may have been an interesting news story for the masses, but ultimately it’s only two years since they were previously seen together and it is a Swedish award, not a UK one. ITV is really just tabloid television isn’t it? No disrespect to ABBA but ITV will cover anything if it picks up some viewers. |
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Post by skiing55 on Jun 6, 2024 13:12:54 GMT
Mamma Mia movie Swedish prime does count
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Post by justabba on Jun 6, 2024 13:38:12 GMT
The BBC completely ignored it. Not even on the news app. Shocking. I wouldn’t say it’s shocking. Had ABBA not previously reunited then it may have been an interesting news story for the masses, but ultimately it’s only two years since they were previously seen together and it is a Swedish award, not a UK one. ITV is really just tabloid television isn’t it? No disrespect to ABBA but ITV will cover anything if it picks up some viewers. OK I was shocked. Other countries like Germany and the Netherlands for example felt they were able to widely report it. Its not like ABBA are not huge here, even though it was only a Swedish commander of the highest order award. |
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Post by eddie on Jun 7, 2024 7:41:16 GMT
I agree it is disgraceful the BBC completely shunned it.
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