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Post by jchanabbafan on Aug 19, 2024 3:05:21 GMT
Hi, I just discovered this on YouTube and it is quite convincing in places for AI !
I have heard a few AI versions of songs by (fake) Queen, Whitney Houston (even 'her' version of TWTIA) etc but this is more convincing to me than a lot of other efforts - I suppose things keep improving - if that is the right word for this sort of thing ?
We had all better get used to this stuff - AI is the future we are told - for better or worse.
Regards JeffChan
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Post by gary on Aug 19, 2024 11:14:34 GMT
Better than Little Things! 😂
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Post by lamont on Aug 19, 2024 17:05:08 GMT
There is a post on YouTube of AI ABBA singing I Know Him So Well, that is convincing too in places, especially with their voices ageing.
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Post by richard on Aug 19, 2024 20:57:22 GMT
These AI efforts are happening more and more, aren't they?
I said in a post here about a year ago that, give it another 5 years and listeners will be astonished by AI music - or deceived, I'd add, if it's not clearly labelled as AI. So good, in fact, that some artists might indeed pass off AI as their own work, and listeners will be none the wiser. And it's happening quicker than I thought: AI modelling of a person's speaking voice can be deceivingly accurate already; and although such modelling of someone's singing voice can be hit-and-miss at the moment, the improvements are happening rapidly, going by some of the examples I've heard.
I've no doubt that in the fairly near future there will be AI Beatles, AI ABBA, etc, composed and performed through AI. And I don't think a lot of people will be all that bothered provided they like the music. Perhaps their attitude will be that music is music is music, and no matter how it comes about.
I'm both intrigued and put off!.
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Post by Alan on Aug 19, 2024 21:35:26 GMT
It’s a passable soundalike of Agnetha but it doesn’t bear much relation to ABBA. It sounds like one of her early 70s solo recordings translated to English.
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Post by ianunderattack on Aug 19, 2024 22:52:49 GMT
At 1'45 it genuinely sounds like they're singing 'Fellatio, you blow me away' which would be very risqué for an ABBA song from any era! Especially when the next verse includes the couplet "Don't you know that I am down here on my knees? Why is it so hard to swallow?" !!
I can't be the only one to have noticed this: it's not me being filthy-minded, is it?
(Apart from anything else, I'd say it sounds more like the Brotherhood of Man, which goes to show that even AI trying to sound like ABBA still only sounds like real humans trying to sound like ABBA...)
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Post by bjorenny on Aug 20, 2024 0:06:54 GMT
That's exactly what I thought the lyrics were, so I'm glad I'm not the only one 🙄
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Post by Alan on Aug 20, 2024 15:32:34 GMT
That's exactly what I thought the lyrics were, so I'm glad I'm not the only one 🙄 I hadn’t noticed it but I only heard it the once. Listened to that bit and it’s unmistakeable! What exactly is it meant to be, a person’s name? I find these things really creepy. It’s bad enough when they’re all still alive but imagine these being “released” when they’re gone? Electronic music can sound cold due to the lack of real musicians, but at least you get human vocals. With this it’s all fake. I definitely don’t want to hear anymore of them. Real ABBA (indeed, real anything) or nothing for me.
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Post by clumsylikeaclown on Aug 20, 2024 19:02:45 GMT
Oh boy... I have a lot to say about this, and not much of it is kind.
It certainly does a great job of showcasing what the ABBA sound would be like if it had absolutely no heart or soul to it. The vocals simultaneously do and don't sound like Agnetha and Frida. The Agnetha solo sections are... alright. But the 'dual harmonies' don't sound much like either or both of them at all. Pleasant enough in isolation, but not like ABBA.
Oh, and what the actual *** is that 'fellatio' in the lyrics? Especially with the followups about being on their knees and being hard to swallow. This is someone's idea of a joke, and a very disrespectful one at that.
tl;dr I hate it
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Post by voyage2 on Aug 21, 2024 7:02:01 GMT
Not listened to it as at work at the moment, but really have no interest in it. If this is the way music is going, then say goodbye to music basically. No heart or soul, no emotions, nothing. A sad state of affairs. And where does this leave songwriters, vocalists and musicians?? All about profits and nothing about Art. I could never 'feel' a song that is AI generated.
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Post by Alan on Aug 21, 2024 11:35:52 GMT
Not just music, voyage2. It could affect all forms of art and media. In future we won’t know what’s real and what isn’t.
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Post by richard on Aug 21, 2024 11:55:48 GMT
Although I'm interested in developments in AI, including music, I also think it will mostly turn out to be a bad thing. It certainly carries some creepy and disturbing aspects - in whatever field it may be applied.
But, depending on how 'realistic'' it gets, listeners might not even realise a piece of music is AI, unless it's labelled as such. And, for me, a lot of music - commercially successful human music - has been formulaic/soulless/perfunctory, anyway. For the the more immediate, entertaining kinds of pop, AI will probably be able to come up with music indistinguishable from what humans might write, like it or not.
Robotic, unvarying (human) drumming, drum machines, human voice manipulation, synthesisers with pre-programmed styles, patterns, emulations of acoustic instruments - this has been going on for decades. AI can be seen as a development of this - an unwelcome development for many, no doubt.
I definitely want to hear great human-composed and performed music with wonderful, natural, nuanced human singing (And, by the way, I sometimes wish Benny had played the acoustic grand piano - his favoured instrument, I've read - far more often and prominently on ABBA recordings than his synths.)
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Post by foreverfan on Aug 21, 2024 16:46:04 GMT
Once heard it can’t be unheard.. I’m not totally convinced that it’s to do with you know what, But alas regardless of whether it’s good bad or indifferent.. the sentiment is there and dare I say brought a smile to my warped mind…
Alas it’s the same as Chicken Tikka for Chiquitia… or Sue Lawley for So Lonely by the Police
It can ruin a good track….
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Post by Alan on Aug 21, 2024 16:53:13 GMT
And of course the good old “f*****g in the moonlight” in one line of Summer Night City. There were actually two promos of the Summer Night City single on Epic as, when it was discovered, they did an earlier fade (3:34 cut to 3:10) to avoid the profanity (it only sounds like that once, and it’s near the end).
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Post by rickyrocknroller on Sept 13, 2024 15:47:35 GMT
I found this snippet of a leak of Lady Gaga's forthcoming album (Endless, ) being made sound like ABBA via AI: www.reddit.com/r/ABBA/comments/1fddh7f/apparently_an_unreleaseddemo_song_during_the/It's flagged as an unreleased demo from 1979-1980. I knew this couldn't be true (though you never know what tapes might turn up from somewhere), yet I couldn't help sitting up straight in my chair... the explanation can be found in the comments.
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