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Post by Ausfan on Oct 31, 2014 23:55:16 GMT
Many of my collection images have made the rounds on the internet - especially on facebook.
I do wonder at times if I should 'mark' my photos - I know others do this with theirs.
When I first started sharing images on the internet, the thought never crossed my mind that other people might 'borrow' them, and not give credit for who they belonged to - nor that I might find issue with that.
I think when it is images of my personal collection, it would be nice to have that fact mentioned.
It almost feels a little like having something taken from me.
Maybe that's strange ?
What do others think about this ?
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Post by 15/11/79 on Nov 1, 2014 8:02:34 GMT
I think it's a good idea, Roxy.
If you go to all the trouble of collecting, arranging and displaying your memorabilia, why shouldn't you receive a little credit?
A good example would be the ABBA videos created on YouTube by Shaymen - there's a little image of his logo throughout the videos, so you are always aware of who took the time and effort to create it.
Martin,
Ireland.
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Post by poul on Nov 1, 2014 13:42:26 GMT
It's a good idea to have a talk about this because it can involve strong feelings.
If you take a picture with any kind of camera, the picture is yours and you may mark it.
When copied, it's bad form to remove the mark, I'd say.
However, in many cases it's more complicated than that. For the "Girls Only" thread, I copied my favourite photograph of the girls in the best resolution I could find. The picture was marked: "Original scan by Ann Landor, digitally retouched by Andy B, 04/2002."
So Andy, who is really good at this, marked it. I find it odd to take credit for the work when you do not credit the photographer, which is almost always the case. Don't take credit if you don't give credit, I'd say.
With videos, screencaps, recontextualization, mash-ups, memes and other varietals of simulacra our sense of originality and authenticity becomes even more challenged. The guys behind the cameras rarely get any credits, so I was pleased that 2Shaymcn had kept them in at the end of his great upload of the Wembley 79 show to YouTube.
Here you can see that the guys who tried to keep up with the ABBA girls that night were Peter Fisher, Jack Churchill, Michael Kinmanson, Lars Bermann, Bengt Lindström and Leif Benjour - and for that they surely deserve credit. |
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Post by Fafner on Nov 1, 2014 19:43:33 GMT
I hate when people watermark photos that are not theirs, it makes no sense to demand credit for a photograph that you didn't take yourself (not the mention that watermarks damage the photo). As someone who spends quite a lot of time finding rare photographs, and sometimes removing commercial watermarks (which is in many cases, not an easy thing to do), it never occurred to me to watermark what I post (especially if I already removed another watermark myself...). If people don't credit me (which is what happens in most of the cases), I really don't care because I post pictures so that people would enjoy them, not for self-aggrandizement. The more that people share what I post, the more happy I am, because it means that people like what I post, and this is enough for me.
Of course I don't go through the trouble of making physical scans like some fans do, I only post what I find on the internet, but as I said removing watermarks or fixing things like color/contrast isn't always an easy thing either, but I don't believe that I owe any credit because of that (It's nice of course when people thank me, but I don't expect credit on every single blog/facebook post). Of course I would be very upset if someone took something I wrote for example, without giving credit, but a photograph is a trivial thing in comparison, and especially if you are not the original photographer I see no reason to get angry over this.
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Post by Ausfan on Nov 2, 2014 2:15:51 GMT
Thanks guys - some good perspectives here. I do not agree with the watermarking of ABBA images - unless you are the original photographer. This has become quite a common thing though - especially on a particular facebook group. I don't even think that scanning the image yourself from a magazine or similar gives you the right to watermark. As has been said above, unless you are going to give credit to the original photographers, then you should not be asking for credit yourself. However, my main issue is with photos of my actual collection items. I see them shared around everywhere - and I really do not mind - but sometimes it can get a little annoying that people do not state where the image comes from. I even had one person who made a little 'memorabilia' booklet and used my images. As you say Martin, I spent the time and money collecting these items - then photographing each individual item - then uploading them. It never occured to me to watermark my photos - and I quite enjoyed them being shared. But I think at times people can go too far - and for this reason I have considered watermarking. I have no doubt left it too long. So many of my images come up in searches, but it's not hard to see they usually come from 'abbafanatic'. A little respect for my personal collection would be nice  Although, of course, it would take me forever to now go through them all to add a watermark, so maybe the point is mute anyway ! lol |
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Post by dizzymoe33 on Nov 2, 2014 16:41:19 GMT
If I take a picture with my camera than I have the right to use a watermark if I so choose to do so, but if I find a picture and want to share it with others than I have no right to water mark it. But I don't have any issues with providing credit for where I have found them. I have many pictures saved and unfortunately I don't always remember where I find them. I have never understood the ones that find these pictures of ABBA and go on to claim that they are the owners of those pictures when they are not.
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