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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 15:34:43 GMT
The UK's Sky Arts Channel planned to show ABBA - The Movie 4 times between 21st December & New Year's Day. However, now I'm not sure if it will be shown at all! LINK:, forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2123689 The fellow who played the DJ in it - Robert Hughes - was convicted of sexual offences against children in 2014 & sent to Prison for 10 Years. Some petty minded idiot at the UK Digital Spy Forum says that he's informed Sky Arts of the Actor's conviction & crimes. He says that Sky Arts have now decided to not show the Film! If it is true, it sets a precedent about 'The Movie' & it may be banned by every UK TV Channel & never shown on UK TV ever again. I cannot believe that this has happened! To ABBA for goodness sake! 'The Movie' is harmless! I am absolutely furious. It does not matter if I wanted to see the Film or not. The very idea of it being banned is totally sickening to me. We may as well ban every Film & Documentary with Hitler in it, as he did very bad things too! |
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Post by 15/11/79 on Dec 20, 2015 10:41:14 GMT
Couldn't believe it this morning when it disappeared from the planner on my TV. What a joke.
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Post by shoshin on Dec 20, 2015 11:06:35 GMT
...I cannot believe that this has happened! To ABBA for goodness sake! 'The Movie' is harmless!...We may as well ban every Film & Documentary with Hitler in it, as he did very bad things too! I hate to say this, firstly because my first instinct would be to agree with you regarding banning things, and secondly because it may well mean that ABBA the Movie, with its fantastic concert footage, will never again be seen on tv. But the problem may not arise just from the fact that he appears in it. I can't remember the film scene by scene, but there was interaction between the guy and young children, plus songs like WIKTT and DYMK. If you watch the following clip for example, surely nobody could blame the channel for wanting to edit the scene out. The question would be what would remain of the film if all such scenes were deleted. |
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Post by 15/11/79 on Dec 20, 2015 23:25:36 GMT
Ridiculous carry-on from Sky. All this PC nonsense. Unfortunately it could mean that the Movie will never be on terrestrial or satellite TV in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 20:43:04 GMT
I see that Sky Arts have now removed ABBA The Movie from their
Christmas TV schedules. So it will not now be shown 4 times from
today, (21st December), to New Year's Day.
I also see that several ABBA Fans think that the decision is a
correct one, & they fully approve.
All I can say is that ABBA The Movie is effectively now banned
from UK TV. No Channel will ever dare to show it again - as they
know that if they did someone will contact the UK Media & create
a huge fuss.
It also means that even copies of the DVD in UK Stores may not
be allowed. The Film may simply be totally banned as 'inappropriate'.
We will see.
Now that the ban has begun in the UK, it is sure to happen in other
Countries too, as every TV Channel will be scared of the back-lash, if
they were to show it.
So, there we are - ABBA The Movie has been banned & some ABBA Fans agree
with the ban.
Now, I see that some Fans are starting to focus on certain ABBA songs, as
not being 'acceptable'. Both 'Does Your Mother Know' & 'When I Kissed The
Teacher' have been mentioned more than once.
Once you start this silly, ridiculous nonsense, where does it end?
The UK's biggest selling Single of 1980 was 'Don't Stand So Close To Me',
by The Police. It is about a school girl & a teacher. Do we ban it now?
I know many people in the UK Music Industry, & I will be warning them about the
ABBA The Movie ban, & how some people now seem to be focusing on certain songs
too. They need to know - in case this or that song is banned next - & they wonder
how things have reached such a sad stage.....
If we were to ban every song, film, play & book, that has had this or
that type of Criminal involved with it, then a great many things would
be banned. Once you start this nonsense, it can get way out of control.
I've had ABBA Fans say to me, that The Movie had to be taken off UK TV,
to protect the Actor's victims from seeing him in it. As he committed the
crimes in Australia, it is, (in fact), very unlikely indeed that any of his
victims would have seen it! So, that excuse just falls apart.....
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Post by Zeebee on Dec 21, 2015 21:52:09 GMT
Around this time last year, it came to light that an actor who was in a hit TV series called 7th Heaven here in the USA did something many years ago similar to what Robert Hughes was convicted of. It was too long ago for him to be prosecuted, but it looks like the reruns of 7th Heaven will never be on TV again. I don't know if the show is available on DVD.
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Post by chelseacharger on Dec 22, 2015 17:10:05 GMT
Utterly ridiculous. When the funniest movies of all time are listed, 'The Life Of Brian' is often found near the top. Is that film now going to be banned because one of it's most memorable scenes features Chris Langham, who served time for downloading illegal images? Where does it stop? Are we going have our self appointed moral guardians scanning the thousands of extra's in 'Ghandi' for some bloke who didn't pay his parking fine? Flippant I know but this is a dangerous road we're on with regard to freedoms. Sky Arts should be appealed to reconsider this decision.
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Post by shoshin on Dec 22, 2015 19:32:12 GMT
Utterly ridiculous. When the funniest movies of all time are listed, 'The Life Of Brian' is often found near the top. Is that film now going to be banned because one of its most memorable scenes features Chris Langham, who served time for downloading illegal images?...Sky Arts should be appealed to reconsider this decision. This assumes though that the reason it has been banned is purely because he appears in the film, like the Chris Langham example you gave. My opinion is that the clincher for Sky would have been seeing some of the scenes he has with children in ABBA The Movie. I linked to one in my earlier post and there's another example below. This guy was sentenced to ten years, and has just lost his appeal, for offences including indecent assault of a girl aged between six and eight. His victims included a child co-star in his tv series, and his own niece testified against him. One of his victims came forward because she recognized him when watching ABBA The Movie. |
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Post by chelseacharger on Dec 22, 2015 20:09:51 GMT
I'm not in any way trying to make light of the seriousness of his crime. On the contrary, he deserves at least the full jail time. He should also be monitored on release as well as attend some sort of psychological sessions. What is pointless is this sort of 'gesture' silliness that achieves nothing but makes busybodies somehow feel morally superior. There is an argument that every showing means this person receives a payment but that's something that the law-makers could rectify if they put their mind to it. What about the others who appeared in the film also? Are they to be forever denied these payments now because of this one person? Seems like a whole lot more people being punished in different ways because of someone else's crime. The bottom line is that the likes of Sky Arts have taken it out of the viewers hands. Nobody is forcing folk to watch it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 22:53:26 GMT
There is no point in anyone contacting Sky Arts about the matter. They have now
effectively banned the ABBA Film from ever being shown again, on their Channel. It
will also never be shown again on any TV Channel - not in the UK & Australia, anyhow.
All of the Channels will be scared of a Media back-lash if they show it. (There will
always be 'Moral Guardians', who will tell the Press that one of the Actor's in it is a
Sex Criminal. So no Channel will dare risk showing the Film).
There is no use in any further complaining about it. The decision has been made,
& it will never be changed.
I now see it as the wrong decision, but a closed issue. It is over.
We will see if the DVD of the Film will still be allowed to be sold, or if that will
end up being pulled from UK Stores.
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Post by 15/11/79 on Dec 23, 2015 16:36:02 GMT
Bah humbug. Where will all this end? Can't look sideways these days for fear of PC correctness. That guy deserves everything that's coming to him, but I will not allow this to taint my enjoyment of a film I have seen countless times since February 1978. I watched my blu-ray copy last night with surround sound on 50" TV, Christmas tree nearby and coal fire blazing, with the Irish rain lashing the window outside. Thanks to Lasse Hallstrom and everyone involved for capturing a magical moment in time, in glorious Panavision. Merry Christmas all.
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Post by Zeebee on Dec 23, 2015 21:31:46 GMT
There is an argument that every showing means this person receives a payment but that's something that the law-makers could rectify if they put their mind to it. What about the others who appeared in the film also? Are they to be forever denied these payments now because of this one person? Seems like a whole lot more people being punished in different ways because of someone else's crime. I thought of the fact that, as a result of the reruns of 7th Heaven probably never being on TV again because of what Stephen Collins did, the other members of the show's cast won't get residuals they would've gotten. The same goes for the cast of The Cosby Show-at least one TV channel stopped showing reruns of that show because of the allegations against Bill Cosby. |
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Post by abbarich on Sept 12, 2016 17:41:18 GMT
I think it is ludicrous to ban the ABBA movie, but maybe a new shorter version of the Movie could be created and made available to TV stations featuring just the concert footage. I would rather the movie had been just the entire concert anyway, as the plot with the DJ becomes tiresome after one viewing.
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Post by josef on Sept 14, 2016 0:02:02 GMT
It's such a shame the film has been tainted by this but it already was, just by having him in it. His role was irritating and took up far too much airtime. I didn't want to see him jumping out of bed in his horrible underwear or walking mournfully during I've Been Waiting For You and spoiling a lovely song. But what's done is done. Maybe an edited version could be cobbled together, cutting that character out somehow? They can do anything with CGI these days! Bjorn and Benny are loaded- they could commission someone to do it? The original ABBA-The Movie will still exist but this would give new people the opportunity to see that amazing live footage on television of ABBA at their zenith.
OK, I'm rambling but I would so like to see some kind of solution to this. I mean, if they can make films like Avatar and bring the likes of Marilyn Monroe and Audrey Hepburn back to life (not that I'm too keen on this, it's kinda spooky) then it must be a piece of cake to replace this actor in the film somehow using the magic of today's technology. Let's eradicate him, yes?
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Post by Ginger Spice on Sept 14, 2016 4:11:15 GMT
Around this time last year, it came to light that an actor who was in a hit TV series called 7th Heaven here in the USA did something many years ago similar to what Robert Hughes was convicted of. It was too long ago for him to be prosecuted, but it looks like the reruns of 7th Heaven will never be on TV again. I don't know if the show is available on DVD. I remember this happening, but oddly enough, I still see 7th Heaven being played all the time when I flip channels. There's one specific channel that plays it a lot. |
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Post by Alan on Sept 14, 2016 6:40:34 GMT
What Josef said about digitally removing Robert Hughes and replacing him...
It's probably possible for most of it but the sequence for The Name of the Game might be a difficult stumbling block. ABBA (or in particular, A and F) are all over him in that. ABBA had extremely good foresight to make a separate promo video for the song, rather than use this sequence as the video!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 20:01:48 GMT
It's really sad, to me the movie was a milestone in my ABBA fandom career. The concert footage is awesome, and it is a moving historic document of Abbamania in Australia at its peak. (I even think think the silly story works, somehow: at least better than both Richard Lester's Beatles films).
But perhaps the damage is done, I can understand anybody's reason for not showing it because of the culprit, and lesser fans than us here would probably make unfortunate associations with the group that is none of their fault. And it will probably be available on YouTube for eternity, anyway.
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Post by josef on Sept 15, 2016 16:43:14 GMT
If only Tom Oliver had also played the DJ.
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Post by Michal on Nov 1, 2016 20:53:45 GMT
It's difficult to judge whether the decision not to show The Movie on TV was right or not, but I can see their reasons. It may be that even ABBA members would like to distance themselves from Robert Hughes. I can imagine it could harm their image and it is something their critics could use to ridicule them even if they can't be blamed. However, I guess we could benefit from banning of The Movie in the end. It could be a motivation for digging in the vaults and if it's true what Ludvig Andersson said, that there are endless hours of footage from the Australian tour, we could finally get if not a complete concert, than at least something in the vein of ABBA In Concert documentary. The 40th anniversary of the 1977 tour is approaching anyway... :-)
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Post by Printsofwhales on Aug 16, 2023 20:10:55 GMT
Is there a film ever made which does not have a sex offender in it as actor or extra? Do we ban them all? What about those films made by directors and producers who are sex offenders? Ban those? Many involved in the making of a film get a tiny amount every time a film is shown. Is it fair to punish the innocent?
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