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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Sept 15, 2016 7:16:41 GMT
As Good As New / Hamlet The King Has Lost His Crown / Just A Notion Kisses Of Fire / Rubber Ball Man Chiquitita / Does Your Mother Know (Early Version)
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Post by foreverfan on Sept 15, 2016 16:41:03 GMT
My favourite album...
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Kisses of Fire... No big surprise to those who know me... Could've been a number one , better than DYMK If It Wasn't for The Nights... Should have been released before Chiquitita As Good As New.. An often over looked little belter, a top 10 for sure Angeleyes... Pure pop..
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Post by The Rubber Ball Man on Sept 15, 2016 16:56:27 GMT
I'd love to know your b-sides.
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Post by HOMETIME on Sept 15, 2016 20:31:34 GMT
If It Wasn't For The Nights [edit]/Just A Notion Chiquitita/Lovelight Voulez-Vous [edit]/Lovers (Live A Little Longer) [Swiss edit] (with 12" featuring US 12" of VV and album mix of Lovers) The King Has Lost His Crown/Does Your Mother Know [rock version]
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Post by maxisaxi on Sept 16, 2016 22:14:23 GMT
As Good As New/I Have A Dream Voulez Vous/Does Your Mother Know Lovers Live A Little Longer/Angeleyes If It Wasn't For The Nights/Kisses Of Fire
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Post by kruspetiddies on Sept 14, 2018 21:43:26 GMT
Chiquitita/As Good As New Kisses of Fire/Summer Night City(Full Length Version) Angeleyes/I Have a Dream Voulez Vous/Does Your Mother Know
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Post by gazman on Jan 28, 2020 12:03:18 GMT
I would have chosen:-
Chiquitita/Lovelight Does Your mother Know/Kisses Of Fire Angeleyes/As Good As New Voulez-Vous/Lovers (Live A Little Longer)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 17:45:34 GMT
I would have
Chiquitita/Lovelight If It Wasn't For The Nights/Kisses Of Fire Gimme Gimme Gimme (A Man After Midnight)/Angeleyes (double A-side)
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Post by chron on Jan 29, 2020 12:26:50 GMT
Got the wrong end of the stick with these polls. Thought we could only pair-up tracks available on the original studio albums (in the real world of course this wouldn't be normal practice, but because Rubber Ball Man hadn't made it clear that non-album tracks could be considered for verso selections, I thought we were to confine ourselves what was on the albums only). The penny's finally dropped with a look at the replies in this poll, and I realise that non-album tracks are fair game for B sides. Muggins' votes will have skewed the results though, since my third and fourth votes have been going to most appropriate B side selections, rather than choices for 3rd and 4th single A sides! So, with that established:
Chiquitita b/w Kisses Of Fire The King Has Lost His Crown b/w Lovelight
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 23:03:10 GMT
I too, thought I made a complete hash of my single choices.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 2:44:14 GMT
'Voulez-Vous' - which is doing well in this Poll - was not one of ABBA's biggest Global Hits. They had 16 Top 10 Hits, in the Global Charts and 'Voulez-Vous' was not one of them. Nor did it reach No.1, in the European Hit Parade. It was a No.2 Hit, in that Chart. ABBA had 17 No.1's in that Chart. It has never been one of my favourite ABBA Songs. I feel that it drags on and seems to go on forever. West Germany gave ABBA 21 Top 10 Hits, but it was not much interested in 'Voulez-Vous' - No.14. I say all of this, because several Fans here, think that it is one of the best Singles from the 'Voulez-Vous' Album, and neither Europe, nor the World, thought so in 1979...
I'd have released these 4 Singles off 'Voulez-Vous':
'As Good As New' 'Angel Eyes' 'If It Wasn't For The Nights' 'Chiquitita'
Bear in mind, that ABBA themselves, were going to release 'If It Wasn't For The Nights' as a Single, until they released 'Chiquitita' instead. 'As Good As New' was touted, as a UK No.1 Hit, by UK/USA DJ Paul Gambaccini, and by 'Record Mirror', a UK Pop 'Paper. It never got the chance, as ABBA were too busy releasing 'Voulez-Vous' and 'Does Your Mother Know', as Singles. But, neither had any chance, at all, of being either UK No.1's or Top 5 German Hits. 'Does Your Mother Know', was ABBA's smallest UK Hit, since 1975, in the UK, (No.4), and their smallest, in Germany, (No.10), since 'So Long', (No.11 - in early 1975). 'As Good As New' would easily have been, at least Top 2, in both Countries. As well as many others. The lyrics of 'Does Your Mother Know' have not aged well, at all. They sound very awkward, in this day and age, and they were not very cool in 1979, either. As well as the fact, that Agnetha and Frida have good voices. Bjorn never did/has! If ABBA had released bigger Singles off 'Voulez-Vous', that Album would have sold more. It failed to reach a UK Million - 800,000, and it was only the 11th Best Seller of 1979, in Germany, where ABBA Albums were usually Top 5 for the Year. It is noticeable that the 'Super Trouper' Album, did have No.1's on it and it sold more than 'Voulez-Vous' in the UK, Germany, and Worldwide. 'Chiquitita' was actually - by far - the World's biggest Single, off 'Voulez-Vous', but now, (I've found), a lot of ABBA Fans don't like it...
After 'Chiquitita', it was 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!', that was ABBA's biggest Global Single of 1979. It managed that, without even getting a proper release, in either the USA or Canada, and only reaching No.16 in Sweden, as it was only released on Import there...
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Post by gary on Feb 11, 2020 9:00:07 GMT
Surely Summer Night City was a smaller hit (number five) in the UK than Does Your Mother Know?
I’d rate Voulez-Vous as the worst song on Voulez-Vous. It doesn’t sound like ABBA to me.
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Post by chron on Feb 11, 2020 14:02:47 GMT
[Voulez-Vous] has never been one of my favourite ABBA Songs. I feel that it drags on and seems to go on forever. This chimes with my feelings. If you're going to aim to concoct a full-on disco track in effect, then the groove you cook up has got to groove! VV grooves too tepidly - it bubbles away without ever threatening to boil up into something that can make you switch-off your real-world cares and fully submit to the here-and-now of the dance-floor.
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Post by foreverfan on Feb 11, 2020 15:30:54 GMT
^^^^Thats what I like about “us” ( well everyone..lol) we all have a different opinion on a particular track.. for me I love VV, I do get the disco vibe, it’s over 40 years old, so to some it’s going to sound a little dated, but what I liked is that it was different, and has grown on me more and more as time goes by.. Like a few in this thread, the album was full of potential singles, and yes we all have our thoughts, and that’s the fun part. Really though on reflection two big misses.. for me .. we’re As Good As New and of course my perennial favourite Kisses Of Fire, I genuinely believe both would have been top 3 if not number one hits.. if we could only turn back time...😀
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2020 17:36:11 GMT
I agree, KOF and AGAN are underrated pop gems and had potential hit stamped all over were they released as A-side singles. Why did Epic Records decide on DYMK which has never been a favourite of mine and is not polished ABBA. What a travesty on their part !
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Post by josef on Feb 11, 2020 19:53:08 GMT
It's no secret that I absolutely ADORE Lovers (Live A Little Longer) these days and always will. It's a scorcher of a track.
But I must defend Voulez Vous. It's a cool slice of club chic. Not every dance track has to have bells and whistles everywhere. There's such a thing as a cool groove. It has bags of attitude. I love this Swedish take on the "club culture" of the late 1970's. It has dated, but in a good way...like many songs from that era but that still sound good to our ears. And after all, ABBA threw everything going at Summer Night City and still that didn't come out the way they wanted (I love it just the same).
Chiquitita I love so, so much. It has an added poignancy as it was my sister's favourite ABBA song and I realise now she was Chiquitita.
Yes, Kisses of Fire has a place in my jaded heart but I still see it as 'just' a very good album track. I pretty much detest Does Your Mother Know.
One song that never gets a mention (it was just a lowly B side) is Lovelight. It's actually one of my favourite ABBA songs, believe it or not. That chorus! PURE ABBA! There's something so naive and clumsy about the lyrics but that's its charm for me. Yes, I'd take Lovelight over many other songs any day.
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Post by foreverfan on Feb 11, 2020 21:03:01 GMT
^^^^ Agree totally regarding Lovelight, a fantastic track, deserves its place in higher esteem.. so often forgotten as the B side. its another thread of course, but ABBA did some pretty good forgotten B sides...
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Post by richard on Feb 11, 2020 21:43:47 GMT
A friend, who is not really an ABBA fan, borrowed my MP3 player one evening to listen to some of my favourite tracks, and he singled out Kisses Of Fire from ABBA. He loved it. And it's now one of my favourites, too. I don't think they would have had any trouble having big hits with most of the songs on this album.
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Post by gazman on Feb 12, 2020 11:37:42 GMT
After 'Chiquitita', it was 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!', that was ABBA's biggest Global Single of 1979. It managed that, without even getting a proper release, in either the USA or Canada, and only reaching No.16 in Sweden, as it was only released on Import there... The story about 'Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! in Sweden is indeed quite interesting. We may have discussed it before, but, because ABBA's Swedish singles did not get a lot of radio play, and because Stig knew that the album market was more profitable, he decided that the single would not be released there. He wanted to push GHV2 - after all, nearly all ABBA LPs had got to number 1 in Sweden up to that point. There was a demand for the single, though - and it would not lie down. It seems that record-buyers didn't want to buy an album when they only wanted one new track off it, and GHV2 struggled to climb the chart (I think it just scraped the Top 20). Record dealers were frustrated. Polar had pressed the single for other Scandinavian markets, but these were not made available to them. They turned to Epic in the UK, who had no such problem in selling extra singles. Reportedly, they pressed another 50,000 singles for the Swedish market and shipped them out in bulk. There was nothing to stop this - it was business, after all - but I think it infuriated Stig, who couldn't prevent it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2020 21:30:34 GMT
In 1979, I used to send letters to a lot of UK DJ's. When I bought 'Does Your Mother Know', I tried to get as many of them, as possible, to play 'Kisses Of Fire'. I liked it far more than the 'A' Side. I'd tell them that it was my Grandmothers Birthday, and would they please play 'Kisses Of Fire' for her. A few of them did play it for me. One Manchester DJ, Roger Day, (Piccadilly Radio), said: 'I prefer that to the 'A' Side. Several DJ's had already said that 'Does Your Mother Know' was 'disappointing', due to Bjorn being on lead vocals. However, as 'Kisses Of Fire' was the 'B' Side, it was impossible to get most DJ's to give it any attention, at all. Or to get any DJ's to play it more than 1 or 2 times...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2022 14:02:19 GMT
Summer Night City/Voulez Vous Chiquitita/Does Your Mother Know Gimme Gimme Gimme/I Have a Dream As Good as New/Kisses of Fire
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