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Post by chelseacharger on Oct 21, 2016 13:13:29 GMT
Well, we've heard how Phil and Stig Anderson had a brief but fractious relationship. But who knew it came to this? Phil Collins has just released an autobiography titled 'Not Dead Yet'. Here he is reading an excerpt about the making of the album, Frida and Stig. Relevant section of the audiobook starts at 5:43:25
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Post by wombat on Oct 21, 2016 13:58:27 GMT
Me and my wife often listen to this album and cannot believe Stig heard it and thought it wasn't good or there was not a hit.
She says he probably was secretly terribly jealous and that's why he was ugly about it.
I didnt even like Abba at the time I heard the album, but I went right out and bought it immediately, its always been one of my favorites.
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Post by HOMETIME on Oct 21, 2016 20:46:10 GMT
Having just heard about Phil's antipathy towards Stig for years, it's interesting to hear him articulate it. Two things come from this clip for me. One, it's nice to hear that they loved Frida and were protective of her. The footage from the documentary - what looks like the early days of the recording sessions - makes it look like they had relegated to the background. This passage makes more sense of Frida's effusive sleeve note. Two, it confirms our suspicions that some of the songs were forced upon the project - and I'm guessing that Stig played a big part there. I doubt anyone will win medals for suggesting that I Got Something and Threnody were the main contenders in this category (and, for the record, I'm a fan of both songs equally). But I can't help feeling that Phil is passing the blame for the selection of Here We'll Stay, The Way You Do and maybe even To Turn The Stone. There is a magazine interview from late 82/early 83 out there, in which Phil and a musical associate discuss SGO and Phil's mate give him a hard time over the song choices, saying that the likes of ABC and Yazoo should have been approached for material instead.
The album took probably a year to properly grow on me and I really like and appreciate it now more than ever. Of the two 80s albums, Shine feels more "Frida" to me, more her. But SGO is a terrific piece of work that she can stand proudly over. I agree with Wombat's wife that Stig was probably jealous to have been sidelined from such a terrific album.
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Post by Alan on Oct 21, 2016 21:08:21 GMT
Hearing this, it's surprising that Frida remained close to Stig if he really did cause her to burst into tears. An a***hole indeed.
Slightly disappointing he hadn't done too much research - "first ABBA-era solo album"? Oh, so Ensam doesn't count?
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Post by HOMETIME on Oct 22, 2016 8:17:12 GMT
The research thing doesn't surprise me, to be honest. It's a self-reverential book and he probably doesn't care whether Frida fans investigate too deeply. As for Frida's loyalty to Stig.... I realise that I run the risk of projecting here, but could it be that, having known him for years, Frida saw past the addiction, to the more complex man whose brutal behaviour the drunkenness triggered? I'm not necessarily applauding that, because I have seen how that "loyalty" often turns smart people into doormats, but I think that growing to know someone over a number of years creates a more intricate view of the person than someone who has only recently met them (and at their worst too). Still, it must have been horrible to have something so special to her just dismissed in front of the people who had played such a big part in putting it together. I can't imagine this was an isolated incident of boorishly ugly behayiour either, that Frida was the only one at the receiving end of it, and yet the other three stuck by Stig until they realised that he had swizzed them out of money. Sorry, I'd have articulated that more clearly if I had waited until my morning coffee kicked in... If you need it translated into actual English, let me know!
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Post by Alan on Oct 22, 2016 8:45:52 GMT
I wonder what Stig made of Wrap Your Arms Around Me? As it was safer territory than Frida's album, he was perhaps a bit less dismissive.
Still, Frida was vindicated. Stig still put the album out and it was a hit, so the incident can be put into perspective. Compare that with Karen Carpenter, who had her own solo album's release cancelled by the record company and her own brother! I suppose that Frida's ownership of part of Polar meant that Stig coudn't really refuse the album, though she sold her shares soon afterwards.
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Post by HOMETIME on Oct 22, 2016 8:47:01 GMT
Absolutely!
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Post by Alan on Oct 22, 2016 9:02:59 GMT
There's quite a good interview with Phil Collins on the BBC website today. His alcohol/marriage/health problems are all covered and Frida gets a passing mention. Phil Collins: Back from the brink after alcohol battle www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37714459He says he can't say no to anything, but did just that with Frida's follow-up album. Guessing that was because of Stig.
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Post by chron on Oct 22, 2016 20:18:50 GMT
Collins sounds as though he's giving the police a statement in that recording (which, when you consider what he did to Here We'll Stay, is only appropriate).
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