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Post by gary on Feb 7, 2018 11:14:40 GMT
Not big news, and not sure if this has been mentioned before, but Chiquitita makes an unexpected appearance on the soundtrack of the current film Three Billboards in Ebbing, Missouri. I have a feeling it might be making a suggestion about the sexuality of one of the characters. Anyway, it's a thoroughly entertaining film.
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Post by wombat on Feb 7, 2018 14:36:32 GMT
you mean as a gay reference, or something else?
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Post by gary on Feb 7, 2018 15:44:32 GMT
Yes, a gay reference, I think.
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Post by wombat on Feb 7, 2018 18:47:47 GMT
that shouldnt surprise anybody - a lot of people see Abba as gay icons.
It's a stereotype but in part, at least here in the States, formulated on truth. The vast majority of real Abba fans that I know, are all gay. I'm the only straight one that I know of.
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Post by gary on Feb 7, 2018 19:12:06 GMT
I’m gay myself, but I’ve never quite understood the ABBA/gay connection. I mean, Agnetha and Frida, how could a straight man resist? :-)
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Post by wombat on Feb 7, 2018 20:34:56 GMT
Ha!
Well, there are lots of gorgeous lady singers in the history of pop, that didnt have anywhere near the success of those two. So it obviously wasnt about glamour and beauty and mini-skirts... altho I, for one, am delighted they chose the mini-skirt as their flag to wave... as it were.
I mean, I knew they were gorgeous when they were popular in the 70s. But I hated Abba then. I was a punk rocker.
I dont know. Without those songs.... would they have achieved all that?
Who knows. I dont understand the Abba/gay connection either.
But it is there, or, appears to be, enough that Hollywood sometimes "uses" Abba to suggest "gay".
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Post by harpospoke on Feb 8, 2018 20:36:49 GMT
I’m gay myself, but I’ve never quite understood the ABBA/gay connection. I mean, Agnetha and Frida, how could a straight man resist? :-) As a straight man.....I can't resist. I also know quite a few gay women who love ABBA so there is that side of it too. I don't know how hard-core they are, but most of the straight men I know at least like ABBA. ...Even though some are reluctant to admit it until pressed on the subject.
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Post by wombat on Feb 8, 2018 22:10:12 GMT
thats a good point
almost everybody likes Abba now, some more openly than others. I'm not saying everybody is a hard core fan - but even on other forums I read, where 20 years ago Abba would have been scorned and written off as lightweight pop drivel - even there, a LOT of guys acknowledge how good Abba was and how much they like their music.
I know at least agnetha acknowledges the big time gay connection, but, its not like "only gay people like Abba now". That's ridiculous.
So I dont know why Hollywood continues to use Abba as a symbol of "this is gay".
old stereotypes die hard I guess.
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Post by shoshin on Feb 9, 2018 0:30:46 GMT
I was barely a teenager in 1974 when A & A first caught my eye. It was immediately a case of 'a-ha, I appear to be heterosexual'. But A & A somehow managed to cover all the bases; I regularly see YouTube comments from females along the lines of 'I'm straight but..'.
Although I was on the Agnetha side of the inevitable post-Eurovision dilemma, the TV event that I remember causing the most hetero consternation at my (all boys) school was Frida's memorable So Long leg stretch on Benny's piano.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 0:07:29 GMT
^^^ I was upset that those T-shirts were much too long.
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Post by wombat on Feb 15, 2018 18:57:19 GMT
an example of the problem - a certain segment of the public DOES associate Abba as being gay.
heres a quote from another forum, not saying who or which forum - this was concerning whether or not something seemed gay.
...."all the closet Roxette fans who wont go public. Come out and own it. Not like its Abba. Jeeeezzzz"
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Post by iiwftn on Aug 31, 2023 15:24:46 GMT
I’m a straight man who’ll blast ‘Our Last Summer’ at full volume in the car, whilst singing along to it. 🤷
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