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Post by gary on Mar 28, 2018 22:23:35 GMT
I just found this on youtube:
I have a feeling most of us would disagree with Benny's assessment of how many good ABBA songs there are!
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Post by foreverfan on Mar 29, 2018 9:20:30 GMT
You could argue he's the one who should know?
Obviously, " we " the fans will disagree, there will be some who love everything, no matter what, and others like Benny who like just the few. Personally like many, I guess there are the tracks that I skip as they no longer interest me as much, and for instance I can't remember the last time I heard, Watch Out, not that I ever really liked that track anyhow.
At a guess there are around 40 tracks I never get tired of hearing, the rest in varying degrees, all the way down to poor old Watch Out.
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Post by gary on Mar 29, 2018 12:01:53 GMT
Good point about him being the one who should know! But I think he is being overly modest. He and Bjorn had very high standards when it came to putting together an ABBA album.
I'm probably brainwashed, but there's only a couple of ABBA songs I actively dislike (I Am Just A Girl and Two For The Price Of One, the latter mainly because it's so out of place on The Visitors). But obviously not all the other songs are of Knowing Me Knowing You/Dancing Queen standard. I could easily live without I Saw It In The Mirror or Sitting In The Palmtree, for example. But from the time B&B had perfected their art with the Arrival album, I think there are almost no weak songs that they let slip through.
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Post by madonnabba on Mar 29, 2018 12:43:09 GMT
They set such high standards. I can only think of a few that I could live without. ...King Kong Song, Sitting in the palm tree, Two for the price of one and I saw it the n the mirror and I am just a girl. And some just stand out in a league of their own as the very best of a very good catalogue...S.O.S, KMKY, DQ,TNOTG,TACOM, TWTIA,TDBYC, EAGLE,LAYLOM, The Visitors, Slipping through my fingers, I let the Music Speak and Fernando.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 17:27:00 GMT
Just because Benny & Bjorn wrote the ABBA Songs, does not mean that they know which ABBA Songs were good.
That Myth was destroyed when they released 3 Singles off 'ABBA' & had no intentions of releasing 'Mamma Mia'. They were clueless that it would be a huge International Hit. RCA Records persuaded them to make it a Single.
I feel that Benny & Bjorn don't have enough confidence in the old ABBA Songs. It is usually people who are not that impressed by ABBA, who say that they only made a small number of decent Songs. Usually 15 to 20, is the number given by those people. How sad that Benny agrees with them!
Benny & Bjorn should be less critical of ABBA Music. I bet they have rejected loads of catchy ABBA Songs, for the 2nd 'Mamma Mia!' Film, due to being over-critical. In fact, the 'General Public' care very little about Benny & Bjorn's taste in these matters. All that the bulk of 'Mamma Mia! 2' Audiences want, are fun filled ABBA Songs, that they can sing-along to. The truth is that 'Nina Pretty Ballerina' & 'Dum Dum Diddle' could be in the Film & the Audiences would soon learn to sing-a-long with them. It is all about the ABBA Songs being fun & whether Benny & Bjorn think they are 'perfect' enough, to be included, is 100% irrelevant.
I recall in 1993 when 'More ABBA Gold' was released. The BBC Reviewed it & said that it had no right to exist. That 'ABBA Gold' had 'All the Hits' on it, & there were 'No Hits' on 'More ABBA Gold'. That it was '2nd Rate ABBA' and that it should never have been released. So that person felt that only a few ABBA Songs were any good.
I also recall the 'Thank You For The Music' Box Set getting released in 1994. More than one Reviewer said that there was 'Too much ABBA' in it. That 4 Disks of ABBA Tracks was 'Too many'. Other Reviewers said that the 'Set' contained 'Everything that ABBA ever recorded', when many of their Album Tracks were not even included! (I've never seen any 'Critic' saying that any Box Set of The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Queen or the Bee Gees, has 'Too much' of those Groups in them. It has only been said about ABBA. As if ABBA are just not as good as the rest...).
Benny should realise that he's siding with those over-critical people, when he says that ABBA only had 10 to 15 good Songs. With ABBA still having quite a lot of detractors, it really is not wise for any of the Group to be just as critical...
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Post by Zeebee on Mar 29, 2018 20:45:43 GMT
Some of you have mentioned songs you don't like, but none of you has mentioned Man in the Middle. There are songs I seldom or rarely listen to, but that doesn't mean I don't like them. Man in the Middle and maybe Lovers (Live A Little Longer) are the only ABBA songs I don't like.
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Post by madonnabba on Mar 29, 2018 20:56:34 GMT
Most bands can only envy Abba’s Back catatalogue and success worldwide. Not bad for a group whose first language is not English. Doubt if most bands could have had their success writing in a language which was not their first language and that includes Queen and possibly the Beatles. All bands have weaker songs. Thankfully Abba had very few and mostly confined to the early days. After the Waterloo album very few songs did not meet their usual high standard.... Dum Dum Diddle and Two for the price of one....the lyrics let them down. I do like the music to Dum dum diddle. And can’t believe that TFTPOO was being considered for single release from an album containing more obvious choices. I consider it at best B side and not an album track post Abba album. Should I laugh or cry with a bit more work on the lyrics would have been better on the album. I would have preferred one of the other versions of LAAPTMR on The Visitors. But on the whole I love the Abba catalogue. Some bands would have released more of Abba’s album tracks as singles had they had their catalogue.
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Post by gary on Mar 29, 2018 21:11:24 GMT
Some of you have mentioned songs you don't like, but none of you has mentioned Man in the Middle. There are songs I seldom or rarely listen to, but that doesn't mean I don't like them. Man in the Middle and maybe Lovers (Live A Little Longer) are the only ABBA songs I don't like. Man In The Middle is a bit substandard! I remember finding it on the B-side of my first ABBA single (SOS) and thinking how dull it was. Lovers (Live A Little Longer), on the other hand, has grown on me a lot over the years. It's a nice attempt at something a bit different.
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Post by madonnabba on Mar 29, 2018 21:54:17 GMT
Probably the weakest song on the Abba album but kind of funky as is Lovers. On that album I thought TKHLHC was the weakest song. Think the title is rather clumsy . Maybe a slightly different chorus on TKHLHC could have helped as I like the verses. Back to Man in the Middle. An attempt at a more meaningful lyric rather than a catchy Bang a boomerang. Was it the inspiration for Money money money....the rich man’ s world full of lobster and caviar?Think it was the inspiration for the album cover... limousine, champagne lifestyle.
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Post by angela on Mar 30, 2018 2:38:38 GMT
I don't really Like "The Day Before you came" to me it just drones on with no Melody, "Like an Angel passing through my room" and "Should I laugh or cry" aren't to my taste either, they're the ones that make me press the skip button on my stereo.
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Post by madonnabba on Mar 30, 2018 6:24:38 GMT
You should maybe listen to the remix of The Day Before You Came on You Tube. It mixes it with Head over Heels and speeds it up. Sounds more commercial and with that treatment would probably have been at least Top 5 in the UK maybe even a number one.Although I do like the original more dramatic version. The pop world was not ready for TDBYC in 1982. The charts were Under Attack from New Romantics and novelties like the Goombay Dance Band’s ‘Seven Tears’ and songs like ‘I eat cannibals ‘and ‘the Lion sleeps Tonight ‘and ,Save your Love’ and ‘ Break my Stride’ and ‘La Dolce Vita’. Not to mention Black Lace with two horrors...’Superman’ and ‘Agadoo’ and the Tweets with ‘The Birdie Dance’. TDBYC did not stand a chance in that pop landscape,
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