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Post by Alan on Apr 19, 2024 22:18:44 GMT
That clip is hilarious, baab. I genuinely laughed out loud!
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Post by Alan on Apr 19, 2024 18:54:04 GMT
I got the RSD release of "Frida" (the sound is incredible - as good as any of the half-speed masters) but I'm not sure how readily available it is now. According to Discogs, limited to 1,500 copies. I don’t have “Frida”, but it does have beautiful artwork. The “ABBA For The Record” book in 1980 was when I discovered that all of ABBA existed as artists before ABBA itself. The Frida, Agnetha, Hep Stars and Hootenanny Singers photos/record covers shown in that book seemed like these almost mythical releases I’d never hear. And being as I was only nine years old in 1980, if meant that all members of ABBA may as well have been around for at least a hundred years in an adult timeline!
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Post by Alan on Apr 19, 2024 17:25:59 GMT
Correction: The Missing 40 Years was first shown on 21 May 2022, so dates from the opening of the Voyage show.
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Post by Alan on Apr 19, 2024 17:21:00 GMT
Photos of the vinyl from an eBay listing… a pet hate of mine is that ringwear already appears to be forming (unless it’s just the lighting). The cellophane/shrink wrap is so tight, and the vinyl so thick, that it’s often unavoidable.
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Post by Alan on Apr 19, 2024 16:34:55 GMT
Two ABBA programmes on Channel 5 tonight 22.30 - ABBA: How they won Erovision 23.30 - ABBA - The missing 40 years I think they were both on last Saturday as well? I caught the Eurovision one. I thought it was quite good for Channel 5, but then I found out most of the interviews had been recycled from a 2019 programme. I think the missing 40 years one dates from 2021.
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Post by Alan on Apr 19, 2024 11:14:46 GMT
The ABBAtars can't perform at Eurovision, that is technically not possible. Marnix, that’s not you is it? I seem to remember your guest username from a previous forum.
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Post by Alan on Apr 19, 2024 11:08:58 GMT
That would be most boring! What would be the point of a video of the ABBAtars which they have always said cannot be viewed in video format? But if you’re watching it on TV, as most people will be, it will be in that format anyway? Or am I missing something? Plus, it can be viewed on TV. All the existing footage of it used for advertising/publicity purposes, along with the video for I Still Have Faith In You.
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Post by Alan on Apr 19, 2024 9:43:49 GMT
Was anyone actually suggesting they bring the technology over? Surely they’d just send a film, as they did for the 30th (The Last Video). As most people would be viewing it on TV, it wouldn’t make any difference anyway.
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Post by Alan on Apr 19, 2024 9:41:16 GMT
That’s a good recommendation, HOMETIME, I’m almost tempted, but I don’t fancy ordering from Argentina (seems to be the only one I can find for sale). Back to Singlar och andra sidor… it’s a pity there’s no CD version of this being released. I’d be interested if there was. Countless times I nearly bought De Första Åren. I got the cheapo 5-CD box when that came out, I’d already got Tio År Med, and then Sjung Denna Sång filled in most of the blanks. I even got My Very Best for that one track, and then reconstructed Singlar och andra sidor on my phone from them. I’d still get a separate CD release though. It does seem like the music industry is moving away from releasing these kind of things on both vinyl and CD (even if the CD was just an afterthought). It’s a bit like the “Frida” album. It’s had a vinyl re-release but no CD. I know all the tracks were on that yellow 1967-72 CD but that’s long out of print. We seem to be heading for a time when if you want something physically, it’s vinyl or nothing.
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Post by Alan on Apr 18, 2024 21:53:09 GMT
I Stand Alone... Same Deluxe Treat with all Remixes, Spanish Versions, etc. I'm happy with the bootleg Version... Would that be this one? Seems to originate from Argentina. It’s quite a good tracklisting, I’d buy an official version of this if all the tracks were sourced from master tapes and not vinyl rips. I like how they have what looks a bit like a WEA logo and quote the old company name. If this was official it would carry the “Warner Music Sweden AB” name. Sidenote… she’s wearing a wig on the front cover isn’t she? Way too much hair, and bears little resemblance to how it looks on the back cover.
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Post by Alan on Apr 18, 2024 21:35:12 GMT
What other songs were done in capture motion? I seem to recall some titles being mentioned, but can’t remember what they were. The dismissal of Money Money Money was done without much explanation by Benny, other that it wouldn’t work (no reason given as to why not). Also it was left ambiguous as to whether the 24 songs included the ones already in the show that don’t have ABBATar performances (as we know, only 16 of the current 20 do).
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Post by Alan on Apr 18, 2024 19:19:02 GMT
I don’t think anything has changed, has it? All along they’ve only made batches of dates available at a time? If the 2026 end date is still on, I’d still put money on that being extended. It’s still quite telling that, after all the speculation, there still hasn’t been any confirmation of a second location or even a setlist change. I suspect the real hope is that they can secure a decent extension beyond 2026. Someone (I think johnny ?) mentioned Money, Money, Money being added? Benny once dismissed that, saying it wouldn’t work. It wasn’t one of the (alleged*) 24 songs they did the motion capture stuff for. [* I say, “alleged” because, as we know, some of what Björn and/or Benny say can be taken with a significant amount of salt.]
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Post by Alan on Apr 18, 2024 9:32:29 GMT
Yes, I agree completely, HOMETIME. The idea that there isn’t a market for these is nonsense. I follow SuperDeluxeEdition and there are so many of what I would consider “obscure” acts getting such releases. I’m probably being unfair as they won’t be obscure to their fans, but I’d be very surprised if they had anything like the fanbase that ABBA have, or even their solo projects. Warners seem to be happy to collaborate with Universal or Sony on compilations (That’s Me, My Very Best) but don’t seem to be interested in reissuing their two albums. Did I read somewhere that they’d misplaced the I Stand Alone master tapes or is that a myth? Or perhaps it only relates to the different mixes and Spanish versions.
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Post by Alan on Apr 17, 2024 11:36:23 GMT
It certainly is the case that the Warner Music stuff has been neglected. The Polar/Universal albums have at least had expanded CD reissues (in 2005) and later coloured vinyl releases.
Sony must be running out of Agnetha albums to issue, having done all her studio albums plus several historic compilations over the years. However, I think there are only about two tracks on this singles/b-sides compilation that can’t be found on either Tio År Med or Sjung Denna Sång, both of which have been reissued on vinyl in recent years.
The two exclusives are "Borsta tandtrollen bort" and "Tio mil kvar till Korpilombolo", though the latter was released on CD on “My Very Best” in 2008. The only other “exclusive” is the radio interview (this is not included in the vinyl version).
Two further tracks - Ljuva Sextital and Nu Ska Vi Opp, Opp, Opp - remain unavailable, though the latter is probably Agnetha’s most famous Swedish solo song as it has the film clip, so is often wheeled out whenever an ABBA documentary wants something to represent Agnetha’s pre-ABBA career.
Tracklisting:
”När du tar mej i din famn" (A. Fältskog/Ingela "Pling" Forsman) – 4:07 "Tio mil kvar till Korpilombolo" (A. Fältskog/B.Ulvaeus/P.Himmelstrand) – 3:00 "Vart ska min kärlek föra" (Andrew Lloyd Webber/Tim Rice/Britt G Hallqvist) – 3:20 "En sång om sorg och glädje" (Mario Capuano/Giosy Capuano/Mike Shepstone/S. Anderson) – 3:45 "Någonting händer med mej" (Alan Moorehouse/Bo-Göran Edling) (with Jörgen Edman) – 2:35 "Litet solskenbarn" (Peter Howlett Smith/Karl Gerhard Lundkvist) (B-side of "Om tårar vore guld") – 3:10 "Så glad som dina ögon" (A. Fältskog/Kenneth Gärdestad) (B-side of "Tio mil kvar till Korpilombolo") – 3:00 "Nu ska du bli stilla" (Andrew Lloyd Webber/Tim Rice/Britt G Hallqvist) – 3:48 "Sjung denna sång" (Sonny Bono/Charles Greene/Brian Stone/A. Fältskog) (with Jörgen Edman) – 2:40 "Vi har hunnit fram till refängen" (Neil Sedaka/Howard Greenfield/S. Anderson) – 4:06 "Here For Your Love" (A. Fältskog/Bosse Carlgren) – 2:54 "Golliwog" (A. Fältskog/Bosse Carlgren) – 2:55 "The Queen Of Hearts" (A. Fältskog/Ingela "Pling" Forsman) – 3:20 "Det var så här det började" (Intervjuer och radioinslag) – 4:58 (not on this vinyl release) "Borsta tandtrollen bort" – 1:52
"Nu ska du bli stilla" and "Vart ska min kärlek föra" are reworked studio versions of the Jesus Christ Superstar stage versions.
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Post by Alan on Apr 13, 2024 16:35:21 GMT
jj - Ha! No not really. He doesn’t take much interest in it but sometimes remarks that they look nice. I don’t tell him how much I pay for some things - the recent I Have A Dream Dutch pressing for instance - but he knows it’s not excessive. Anyway, I’m planning to stop next year once the ABBA album picture discs/coloured vinyl box are in my hands Unless an original Epic Ring Ring single turns up at a reasonable price of course.
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Post by Alan on Apr 13, 2024 13:16:38 GMT
The ABBA Waterloo 50th celebrations continued last night with a showing of the episode of Top of the Pops from 1974 featuring ABBA’s first appearance.
Although BBC Four is showing the ongoing repeats of the show (currently at late 1995) as well as two random episodes each week from the late 1970s onwards, this episode was significant as I don’t think it’s been shown since its original broadcast? In April 2011, they began re-showing episodes from April 1976 onwards (from that point they had almost a complete archive of them, even though, for various reasons, they couldn’t re-show some).
This was the episode shown on the Thursday after Eurovision, so Waterloo hasn’t yet charted and ABBA are on it merely because they were the contest winners. They’re getting full use out of those Waterloo costumes (I wonder how many of each they had? It’s unrealistic that they only had the one).
The Wombles were also on, so presumably ABBA met them for the second time in a week. Apparently Mike Batt gave Agnetha a Wombles badge to wear amongst the others on her Waterloo costume.
Also on were Mud, Slade, Mungo Jerry, Bill Haley & His Comets (a re-release) and Terry Jacks.
Noel Edmonds presented, so he was there almost from the start of ABBA’s UK career, just as he was at the end.
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Post by Alan on Apr 13, 2024 13:03:48 GMT
Interesting that you have the picture disc studio albums available in shops, HOMETIME. If I saw them in HMV or Rough Trade or whatever, and at that price, I might be tempted. At least the odd one or two anyway.
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Post by Alan on Apr 13, 2024 9:39:45 GMT
We do have the Album CD Box but the Albums on CD are hardly available. A Deluxe Version here and there, but I think it would be great to have new propper Versions of each Album on CD. I rarely see the albums CD box in HMV. It’s quite expensive anyway. The 2008 version was better. No Voyage of course, but the bonus disc had more tracks on. It was better value for money, sometimes retailing for £15. I’d like to see new versions of the studio album CDs too. The current ones are from 2001 and use the inferior and very loud Jon Astley remasters that have long since been discredited. What’s odd now is that the vinyls use the original Polar artwork while those CDs use modern artwork with standardised text and the ABBA logo (presumably because they thought at the time that more people would buy them if they all had the logo). If they can sell Ring Ring on vinyl without even the ABBA name then I don’t see why they can’t re-issue the CDs using the original Polar artwork as well. They could use a similar tracklisting to the deluxe CDs, but perhaps removing the Spanish versions (being as two deluxes didn’t include them anyway due to timing). However, the music industry isn’t interested in the CD format anymore. They begrudgingly keep it as it still sells. They try to force-feed vinyl on us and tell us it’s better sound quality than CD (even though, in the 1980s, they were telling us precisely the opposite).
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Post by Alan on Apr 13, 2024 7:33:16 GMT
I wonder about the general availability of the "physical Versions" of ABBA Albums and Singles is in the UK? Here in Germany you see rarely picture discs or singles boxes in the shops. Vinyl Albums are also rare apart from ABBA Gold and some copies of the latest half speed master. With CDs, it is also rare, ABBA Gold of course… We only really have HMV as the one mainstream shop covering the whole UK but if I’m in one, I tend to check the ABBA sections. The emphasis is very much on vinyl now - you’re unlikely to see all nine vinyl studio albums at once, but there’s usually a good selection of them, plus, as you say, the latest half-speed remasters. Gold is also readily available, both in picture disc and coloured vinyl. In terms of CDs, you’re likely to see Voyage. The deluxe box thing is still available (so much for that being a limited edition!). Again, a selection of albums plus Gold, More Gold and a couple of budget albums (not 18 Hits but other cheapo ones). Gold appears to be back in its black artwork, after years of being reversed (black text on gold). I don’t think I’ve ever seen the picture disc singles in an HMV. The picture disc studio albums are only available online I think.
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Post by Alan on Apr 12, 2024 18:47:23 GMT
johnny, Summer Night City got two different releases. The first in 2018 as a Record Store Day exclusive, and the second in 2019 as part of the reissue series in standard artwork picture disc. I’m assuming the charts company combined the two, as in your list it’s only shown in 2018? I’m assuming the chart placing shown is really for the 2019 issue, as the 2018 RSD version was much less widely available. Also, I’m assuming the two issues of Voulez-Vous (standard and extended, the latter with If It Wasn’t For The Nights as the b-side) were similarly combined? I notice the chart positions for The Visitors singles are lower than the others… guessing their December release meant there was more competition. And Waterloo’s position must be a combination of the English and Swedish versions (again, different b-sides).
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Post by Alan on Apr 12, 2024 13:27:24 GMT
It could just be that Björn and Benny/ABBA have some right of veto over these things. Polar is owned fully by Universal but perhaps ABBA are given slightly more control of certain things than we might think.
The original Now compilations from the 1980s are being reissued - they’re now at Now 17 from 1990 - and just about every reissue so far has omitted one or two tracks. Phil Collins is one that’s been missed off a few and Now 16 missed out Kate Bush. Both of those artists owned the rights to their recordings. ABBA don’t, having all sold their shares in Polar prior to the PolyGram acquisition in 1989, but I would hope they’d still have some say.
Personally I’m quite glad that ABBA songs don’t appear on these compilations. In the age of streaming, and even the average person being able to listen to any song by any act on the likes of YouTube, I don’t really see the point of them anyway.
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Post by Alan on Apr 10, 2024 21:50:55 GMT
It’s a bit déjà vu… 20 years ago, a photo from the same session was used on the Radio Times cover, and again referring to them getting nul points from the UK judges. It’s inexplicably gone up from 90p then to £4.50 now.
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Post by Alan on Apr 10, 2024 20:24:30 GMT
Just watched When ABBA Came to Britain. Really enjoyed it! It probably helped that the reports on here weren’t encouraging. They helped to lower my expectations. Glowing reviews would have done the opposite and I’d have been disappointed!
It was just the two bands that I didn’t really see the point of, especially the one with the guy with hair like Richard Beckinsale in Rising Damp. And not sure I believe the other band’s story about Agnetha randomly ringing them up. Everyone else on the programme had been connected to ABBA in some way (even the two fans who had at least met them), so the two bands stood out like a sore thumb.
The fans were interesting though, was good that they dug out the Late, Late Breakfast Show lad, and the Liverpudlian guy who met them in a hotel. And I’m impressed that they found some people from CBS Records from the time to hear their take. It’s a slight re-telling of the story though, as they signed ABBA well before Eurovision.
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Post by Alan on Apr 9, 2024 19:15:15 GMT
I have finally seen the 1974 contest. Simpler, shorter - and better than more recent years I can’t disagree! There was a sense that it was genuinely about the song (and who’s singing it). These days it’s too much about what’s going off on stage and what special effects they have. And 17 songs is about right - maybe they should have quarter finals as well as semi finals in today’s contest!! I even enjoyed the Wombles bit. I remember the TV show more than the pop act, but in this it was fun. I wonder… is the intro of Just A Notion on Voyage really a nod to Remember You’re A Womble? And is “No Doubt About It” a reference to what Katie Boyle said when she was announcing ABBA as the winner?
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Post by Alan on Apr 9, 2024 18:06:20 GMT
Moved a couple of posts to this thread from the main 50th anniversary one.
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Post by Alan on Apr 9, 2024 17:57:26 GMT
Moved some posts from the main 50th anniversary thread to this one, being as we already had a separate thread.
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Post by Alan on Apr 9, 2024 12:42:27 GMT
Regarding the Honey Honey single, well the Box is limited to 2800 pieces, how many boxes will count for UK? And the Honey Honey picture disc is (at least for my taste) one of the least well looking ones from the whole "Albums-The Singles" boxes. I didn't order it. Agreed: the singles/picture discs for the Waterloo set are the least inspired so far. But I think there are enough completists out there to push them into the vinyl chart for a week (maybe lower positions than previous sets?) That is a low number isn’t it? I can’t remember how many there were of the Arrival one, but I think it was the lowest and any subsequent box was produced in higher quantities than the previous. And with no Amazon sales and seemingly only official stores selling it, it must limit it. I haven’t ordered it yet as I spent my money on that one old I Have A Dream single, but come payday I’ll be ordering if its still available. I imagine though that it won’t be available for long and could end up as sought-after as the Arrival one, despite the company sleeves. Yes, Honey Honey picture disc is again unkind to Björn, just as the Head Over Heels one was. And I think he’ll quite literally get it in the neck again on the SOS one next year. Edit: I can only find issue limits for four of the previous singles boxes: Arrival - 2,000 The Album - 3,400 Voulez-Vous - 4,500 The Visitors - 3,000 Super Trouper - not known but I’ve seen a photo of one with the number 4,104, so must be more than that. It still appears to be readily available.
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Post by Alan on Apr 9, 2024 8:14:37 GMT
I watched More ABBA at the BBC last night. Thought it was OK. I noticed a mistake on the captions when they were referring to Glasgow and Super Trouper. It stated that Björn was missing Agnetha when he wrote it… it was his then future wife Lena wasn’t it?
For I Know There’s Something Going On, it mentioned she didn’t like Björn and Benny coming into the studio during the making of that album, and that they were making unnecessary comments that she was “fragile”. To be fair, they did show a 1982 interview with her promoting her solo album and she clearly wasn’t happy.
Not looking forward to When ABBA Came To Britain after Johnny’s review! I was hoping they’d got the message that no one really wants to hear celebrity talking heads (or indeed fans).
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Post by Alan on Apr 9, 2024 6:25:44 GMT
I think I’d read that somewhere before, jj but well spotted! Guessing it’s because the Wembley dates were 5 to 10 November and the single was released on 7 December, so there was only a month to get everything done. I checked the other Epic label variants and none of them have it. However, the Polar single does, where it’s given as 4:25 (which is accurate). The studio-recorded version of the track is 4:05. I’m assuming the applause must make up the difference as the live version is faster and, as you say, should therefore be shorter.
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Post by Alan on Apr 8, 2024 15:25:31 GMT
Saturday was ABBA’s 50th Eurovision anniversary, and I marked it (by complete coincidence) by taking delivery of this little beauty. The holy grail of ABBA collecting for me - more coveted than the original Epic Ring Ring single from 1973, which I still don’t have - was the Dutch pressing of I Have A Dream. A friend got it years ago and had never otherwise seen it for sale. A couple of weeks ago one finally turned up on the ‘Bay. Not taking any chances, I put a bid in that was nearly £100 more than I actually paid for it, though I still paid a lot! Thankfully I won it against two other bidders. This version of the Epic label, pressed in the Netherlands, is common for Super Trouper and Head Over Heels, and there’s also a (different) album version of it. For some reason, the I Have A Dream one is extremely rare.
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