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Post by Alan on Jun 7, 2022 7:16:45 GMT
Hi, I have a seating ticket for 2/07, does anyone who has been know If you can stand up and dance in your seats? I couldn't get standing cause I'm going with my gran! Yes, we did, but only later on. The seats are tiered well so if you stand, you aren’t necessarily blocking the view of people behind you. I usually wait until I see them standing anyway (and waited on this occasion).
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Post by Josie on Jun 7, 2022 7:43:33 GMT
Hi, I have a seating ticket for 2/07, does anyone who has been know If you can stand up and dance in your seats? I couldn't get standing cause I'm going with my gran! Yes, we did, but only later on. The seats are tiered well so if you stand, you aren’t necessarily blocking the view of people behind you. I usually wait until I see them standing anyway (and waited on this occasion). I will be standing from start to end! Definitely that's great to know I was so bothered about someone arguing with me 🤣
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Post by foreverfan on Jun 7, 2022 9:12:07 GMT
^^^ totally agree, 99% of those seated stay seated, if not say something.... DQ is the only time we stood up as did everyone, and you really didn’t mind by then , on our night we all sat down again after .
Regarding lack of seats sold, I think we shouldn’t be naive to think that’s it’s not being monitored. We will see what happens as the summer season kicks in, as I’m guessing it may be a last minute tourist thing ....but promotion will be vital as time goes by especially those winter months... I can’t see discount prices being available, imagine the uproar.. so we might just see some release of something , like a track and video, but if things stay as they are.. they will be getting worried come October..........
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Post by Josie on Jun 7, 2022 14:55:43 GMT
Not being funny but that's definitely not the way I see it. Anybody who has ever been to a concert stands up,it's the fun of it all. I would have been in standing if I wasn't going with my gran because that was my preference, still isn't going to stop me getting up when I have paid nearly £1000 to go!!!!!!
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Post by gamleman on Jun 7, 2022 16:37:02 GMT
Not being funny but that's definitely not the way I see it. Anybody who has ever been to a concert stands up,it's the fun of it all. I would have been in standing if I wasn't going with my gran because that was my preference, still isn't going to stop me getting up when I have paid nearly £1000 to go!!!!!! I'm getting a very mixed picture from you, Josie. As I understand it, you bought seats because you're going with your Gran, who I assume doesn't want to stand or can't stand. Yet, you're prepared to obstruct the view of the person behind, who may have paid £1500 to attend and suffer from arthritis in the legs, for all you know. That sounds rather hypocritical and selfish to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 17:14:57 GMT
Gamleman, I agree it is inconsiderate of people to stand up at a concert while all behind are sitting down. You are a proper gentleman by continuing to be seated out of courtesy. It is exactly what I would do. We are of " the old school " generation where politeness and good manners were not frowned upon or a sign of weakness.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 17:45:31 GMT
I am planning to go later in the summer. Wasn't it great to see all the four members of ABBA at the opening night. I was quite emotional when I saw the photographs. They looked " Absolutely Blissfully Beautifully Astonishingly ". Pardon the pun the excitement is getting to me !
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Post by bennybjorn on Jun 7, 2022 20:44:37 GMT
Aggiefan - you are right to be comcerned about ticket sales. Plenty available from mid Sep to early Dec so I don't unserstand the reason for extending until next May. They need to sell autumn batch first. I think the success of Gold and the Mamma Mia have made ABBA complacent and unrealistic. Yes, people forked out a tenner for those. But the show is way more expensive - transport, hotel and actual ticket. Ticket sales are more in line with the Voyage album or More Gold rather than Mamma Mia or Gold. Has that reality sunk it? Great reviews. But they need more bums on seats.This doesn't really make sense to me. Abba Gold has sold millions, yes, (5.5 million I think in the UK) but this has been over THIRTY YEARS! That's an average of less than 200,000 per year. The Voyage show I think has already sold 400,000 in just a few months. So, on average it is selling at a rate massively in excess of Abba Gold. Of course it won't hang around for 30 years - I think they only have planning permission for 2 or 3. But in terms of success, comparing Voyage show's sales in a few months with 30 years of Abba Gold just isn't relevant. If the show simply comprised songs from Voyage there would indeed be grounds for pessimism but it doesn't. It's effectively Abba's greatest hits live, and will probably run and run like the Mamma Mia show has. I don't know how they reinvigorate MM's sales when demand slips (I recall seeing poster campaigns every so often) but guess they might need to spend a bit of cash on advertising every now and then, and they can also introduce new songs (including potentially brand new songs). The idea that the show will run out of steam in autumn just seems bizarre. But we'll see...
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Post by Gillian Taylforth on Jun 7, 2022 20:55:28 GMT
From what I am seeing, people who are seeing it so far are booking tickets to see it again! Remember it has only just been running for a few weeks. I doubt they would have tickets available until end of May 2023 if it would flop.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 21:00:35 GMT
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Gold and Mamma films appealed to millions of casual fans. It remains to be seen if the Voyage show will.
Ticket sales are *only* 400,000 and look sluggish from the autumn onwards.I know the Voyage show is a Greatest Hits concert but what it has in common with its namesake the album is that it had huge sales in the first couple of weeks that have become a trickle. The opening and reviews have no doubt helped but it needs a lot more.
Whilst the show has received rave reviews the jury is still out on his commercial success and how long it will run.
Casual fans may have spent a tenner on a cinema ticket for Mamma Mia or the GOLD CD but spending much more on a ticket, transport and hotel is another matter.
I am not sure you distinguish between hardcore and casual fans.
It would be nice if people could respond to posts without unnecessary and lengthy quotes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 21:07:31 GMT
I agree with comments by Gamleman and Eddie, if you have seats, sit in your seat and don't obstruct the views of others. Standing up in front of seated people behind you is so selfish.
If you want to stand, there is a standing section or fork out a lot of money for a private booth.
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Post by joseph on Jun 7, 2022 22:30:08 GMT
The idea that because you've bought a ticket you can just stand up and block the view of the person behind you doesn't sit well with me. It comes across as selfish and entitled. At least check with whoever is directly behind you. They're called seats for a reason. I'm still undecided whether to book the dancefloor part or a seated area. I'm not much for dancing anymore but you never know I suppose.
One thing I'm unsure about..which maybe someone can help me with here . The VIEW. From the little footage I've seen it appears that although from certain areas you can see the avatars they still seem some distance away. I don't want to watch something that's basically tiny and in the distance and have to rely on images when they pop up occasionally on the side screen. That really would be just like watching a bloody video at home.
Already I can envisage other ABBA fans getting on my nerves...standing up and hovering around before going to the toilet and obscuring the view, like those annoying people at the cinema.
I DEMAND a special, private screening with annoying AꓭBA fans locked up and gagged in a cupboard somewhere 😃
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Post by angela on Jun 8, 2022 2:10:06 GMT
I went to a John Farhnam concert a few years ago and the people in front of us stood on their seats, we had to look at the screen, that's why I don't like concerts you pay a lot of money to have someone's bum stuck in your face. and if you have to look at a TV screen you might as well watch a DVD at home.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2022 4:22:59 GMT
Joseph and Angela have both made the case for a dvd of the show. I know "the management" don't want to talk about it now, understandably, but it is inevitable I believe.
Another annoying habit at concerts is filming everything on your mobile phone. Do people actually look back at that rubbishy footage? 😀
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Post by dankeepinganeyeonabba on Jun 8, 2022 7:03:21 GMT
The idea that because you've bought a ticket you can just stand up and block the view of the person behind you doesn't sit well with me. It comes across as selfish and entitled. At least check with whoever is directly behind you. They're called seats for a reason. I'm still undecided whether to book the dancefloor part or a seated area. I'm not much for dancing anymore but you never know I suppose. One thing I'm unsure about..which maybe someone can help me with here . The VIEW. From the little footage I've seen it appears that although from certain areas you can see the avatars they still seem some distance away. I don't want to watch something that's basically tiny and in the distance and have to rely on images when they pop up occasionally on the side screen. That really would be just like watching a bloody video at home. Already I can envisage other ABBA fans getting on my nerves...standing up and hovering around before going to the toilet and obscuring the view, like those annoying people at the cinema. I DEMAND a special, private screening with annoying AꓭBA fans locked up and gagged in a cupboard somewhere 😃 Regarding the view. If you are standing, you miss the whole picture. In seating, you get a great overview of the whole spectacle. Standing up you miss half the amazing light show. My advice is get a dance booth if you don’t want people around you. You can sit down or stand up at your leasure and they are in a position where you can enjoy the whole thing, you can watch the whole dance floor and absorb the energy of the room. And the avatars in the middle are the most convincing bit by the way. The thing about seating is that the energy is so high that you end up wanting to dance and move but can’t because of people behind you. It’s inevitable and infectious when you see others dancing and the moment takes you away. Dance booths are the way to go!
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Post by HOMETIME on Jun 8, 2022 7:55:04 GMT
Here's my tuppence-worth about the seated/standing issue. In the last few years, I have developed arthritis. Most days it's fine but I have days where my knee (in particular) is really painful. So far, so middle aged. I've been looking at booking tickets and my natural instinct is to book a seat. I have to say that if I end up behind somebody who insists on standing and blocking my view, I'll be both angry and disappointed. And it is genuinely one of the reasons I haven't booked a ticket yet. I have been thinking that I should just avoid that stress and book a dancefloor ticket: if I neck enough painkillers earlier in the day, I should be fine. But should I really have to do that? Does someone else's sense of entitlement trump what I thought was a right to a view from my expensive seat? Am I to be written off as a killjoy by the entitled person in the seat in front of me? Imagine it was a cane-toting Frida behind you. She might be mostly mobile, but would it be fair or respectable to force her to her feet to see a show she bought a ticket for? But I'm not naive. I've been to enough seated concerts over the years to know that the act will usually encourage people to their feet at key moments. I've been that previously-seated dancer myself. It's almost embedded in the culture. Nobody wants to be that killjoy, so the choice is miss a chunk of the show or don't go at all. We can't afford to be ageist here: a significant chunk of the ABBA fanbase is in early-to-late middle age. Some are older. A "deal with it, Nana" response to the issue is lazy and unfair. In short, whether I'm fit or a physical wreck, I expect to be able to see a show I paid through the nose for. I'm not apologising for that. Now, here's a basket of puppies to make up for my crosspatch post.
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Post by foreverfan on Jun 8, 2022 8:12:09 GMT
Tony...
Ok things may change, but at my concert 99% of people stayed seated until the very end when DQ came on, that said try going for an aisle seat, as I did, apart from the initial inconvenience of letting people in, it’s a way around if people do stand , for that matter you to could stand in the aisle, but my experience is go, vast majority will stay seated...
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Post by HOMETIME on Jun 8, 2022 8:17:04 GMT
I think pharmaceuticals and a dancefloor ticket is the only safe solution!
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Post by gamleman on Jun 8, 2022 8:41:16 GMT
Already I can envisage other ABBA fans getting on my nerves...standing up and hovering around before going to the toilet and obscuring the view, like those annoying people at the cinema. I DEMAND a special, private screening with annoying AꓭBA fans locked up and gagged in a cupboard somewhere 😃 I can see that we are like-minded when it comes to concerts, Joseph And HOMETIME conveyed a very strong argument too. In my way of thinking, one of the main points of going to a concert is to see the artist in the flesh. They deserve my full attention, both out of respect and to allow me to savour the moment. Dancing trivialises the experience - it is something you do in a club or disco (to use an old-fashioned term). Also, viewing the concert through a mobile-phone lens is not fully experiencing the moment - people think they are making a record of something they experienced, while by doing that very thing they are not fully experiencing it (a bit like Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle applied to concerts). Of course, it is not quite the same for the Voyage show, as you are not seeing ABBA in the flesh, although you are paying similar money. In 2014, I attended the 40th anniversary event for ABBA's Eurovision win at The Dome in Brighton. Around the time of the evening that ABBA appeared on stage, they played a video of ABBA's performance of "Waterloo". Everyone got up to dance, except me. I was glued to the video screen (which I could still see) - I just had to absorb the moment of seeing ABBA's "Waterloo" played out in the place of their win exactly 40 years on. I just couldn't understand anybody wanting to throw away that moment with a dance.
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Post by Gillian Taylforth on Jun 8, 2022 8:52:36 GMT
If the ticket is called ‘seated’, it means you should be seated. If everyone stands for DQ then no problem, but if just one person is still seated in the same zone then the rest must not stand so they don’t block their view. Maybe they should be shining a torch light on those who are standing up (like they now do if they see you filming the gig) in the seated areas too?
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Post by foreverfan on Jun 8, 2022 9:11:21 GMT
99% stay seated, your always going to get one or two, who will stand, I guess we can all put up with one track , but not the whole concert standing in a seated area.. I’m afraid , as mild mannered as I am, I’d have to say something , and if need be report to an official.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2022 12:47:07 GMT
Wherever you go for a night out whether to a concert or cinema there will always be a crowd of rowdy individuals who don't care two hoots if they spoil the enjoyment for others. I agree with Joseph lock them up and throw away the key. These selfish ones don't deserve to attend the concert and should be forbidden whether they are fans of ABBA or not.
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Post by angela on Jun 8, 2022 13:15:40 GMT
Like Tony I have arthritis, I have it in my back and I can't stand too long and if I sit for a while I get stiff and sore. I would want a refund if I couldn't see a thing because of selfish people who think it's their right to do what they want.
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Post by wayne on Jun 8, 2022 18:25:49 GMT
Done both Departure Loung & shows each day: 30th May (evening), 2nd June (Matinee); 3rd June (Evening:. Back down 11th June for Departure Lounge & Show in the afternoon and evening! LOVE IT!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2022 11:32:11 GMT
A lot of grumbling going on. Yes, people can stand up in seating area and obscure a view. But how likely is this?
In standing/dance area you may be behind tall people, or people filming with mobile phones etc.
Anywhere, you could be next to somebody "singing" .
All these are *could* and people are talking themselves out of not going. Or putting other people off from going.
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Post by undertheappletree on Jun 9, 2022 13:24:18 GMT
Looks inviting.
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Post by gazman on Jun 15, 2022 7:49:08 GMT
It's made from ABBA songs being deconstructed and processed, Ludvig said....but they haven't said which ones and it's impossible to work out from listening to it.
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