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Post by bennybjorn on May 27, 2022 7:38:31 GMT
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Post by HOMETIME on May 27, 2022 7:56:15 GMT
What a response!! It seems that even the most committed contrarians have been gobsmacked!
At this point, anyone who thinks that ABBA still owe us something should probably have a little lie down and a stern word with themselves. ABBA have marked a half-century in an astonishing way: great new album, a groundbreaking concert experience, and they even appeared as a foursome with the megawatt star power of their heyday selves. If they never deliver another note of new music, who could honestly be still dissatisfied?
I don't have a concert ticket yet. But now yet is very much the operative word. I can't wait to experience the show.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2022 8:15:13 GMT
Totally agree, Hometime. 😃
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Post by jj on May 27, 2022 8:21:48 GMT
So many things I wanna know - oh yes I wanna know!
What nostalgic historical clips were shown during Eagle and Voulez-Vous? What did the avatars say when they chit-chatted? What does that enigmatic, animated figure that looks like a frame from a short film, the one on the mug being merchandised, represent from the show? Was there really an animation at one point? During "Eagle" perhaps? Looks wonderful and intriguing, and very creative!
Well, even if I was dying for a drink, even if I were Sue Ellen Ewing, I know there's no f-ing way I'd leave to go to the bar to get a drink. I'd never want to take my eyes off the show for even a second. And then I'd probably want to go a few times more to make sure I hadn't missed a single thing.
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Post by lamont on May 27, 2022 8:55:37 GMT
There’s much I could say, but don’t know if it’s here or in the spoiler thread.
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Post by bennybjorn on May 27, 2022 10:07:50 GMT
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Post by HOMETIME on May 27, 2022 10:29:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2022 12:15:59 GMT
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Post by bennybjorn on May 27, 2022 12:22:00 GMT
Now that this is proving a big critical success (and probably commercial success) the Voyage branding of the concert will really help its parent album. Had it been a flop, they might have needed to rebrand it as a greatest hits things or even something like 'Mamma Mia best-of live' and played down the Voyage connection but that probably won't be needed now.
Good times!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2022 12:27:25 GMT
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Post by bennybjorn on May 27, 2022 12:36:52 GMT
It's good news, of course, but not a huge surprise. NME have been massively pro-Abba since the early 90s. |
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Post by undertheappletree on May 27, 2022 14:24:28 GMT
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Post by KMKY on May 29, 2022 7:33:19 GMT
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Post by KMKY on May 29, 2022 7:50:29 GMT
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Post by onlyabba4meagain on May 29, 2022 8:30:02 GMT
ABBA In the Sunday UK Tabloids -- Sunday 29th May.
Double Page, (Colour), ABBA Article on Pages 24 and 25 of the 'Sunday Express'. With a 4 Star Voyage Show Review.
A large ABBA Article, (Colour), in the 'Mail on Sunday', (Page 67), but it is was in that 'Paper on Friday too! (By Tim De Lisle).
'The Sun on Sunday' - Small, (Pro), ABBA 'Piece' in Tony Parson's Column, on Page 15.
'Sunday Mirror' - small Negative ABBA 'Piece' in Mark Steele's, (Who?), Column, on Page 20.
Nothing about ABBA in the 'Sunday People'.
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Post by breifne on May 30, 2022 11:33:53 GMT
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Post by Michel on May 30, 2022 19:48:35 GMT
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Post by undertheappletree on Jun 9, 2022 10:06:11 GMT
I won't bother reading it, if that is the headline, just one person's opinion anyhow, mine is the opposite, when he says Abba have one of the weakest back catalogues.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2022 11:12:32 GMT
I agree, undertheappletree, I won't bother reading it. It's not that I don't like negativity about ABBA, anyone disliking them or their songs, everyone can have their own opinion, but I'm not sure even non-ABBA fans can say they have "the weakest catalogue of any major act" - very odd!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2022 16:09:32 GMT
I'd say many casual ABBA fans think like that guy. Think ABBA have 20 great songs, not interested in the Voyage album or wider back catalogue.
There's many artists I have compilations from and really only interested in the hits and have no interest in their studio albums.
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Post by foreverfan on Jun 9, 2022 17:54:11 GMT
^^^ Alas you have to agree, the vast majority of “ buyers” today only know ABBA through the likes of Mamma Mia film/ show, even the Voyage Show is mainly Gold, very few non singles have made the public consciousness , I can only think of a handful.. So many tracks are never going to be heard, especially pre Arrival.. imagine how the public would recieve Sitting In A Palm Tree for instance. We just have to accept that Gold is going to be , dare I say the Gold standard that the majority will ever know...
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Post by richard on Jun 9, 2022 19:16:25 GMT
I'd say many casual ABBA fans think like that guy. Think ABBA have 20 great songs, not interested in the Voyage album or wider back catalogue. There's many artists I have compilations from and really only interested in the hits and have no interest in their studio albums. I think there's a lot of truth in that. Yet it can also work the other way, of course: the more someone gets into an artist's work, some album tracks come to be appreciated and enjoyed just as much, and sometimes more, than some of the singles. I guess the number of casual ABBA fans who want to go beyond Gold is comparatively few. But I'm the same regarding The Carpenters, for example: although I love Karen's voice, the Carpenter's Gold album is all I really want; but in the process no doubt I'm missing out on some album tracks I'd like just as much. |
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Post by joseph on Jun 9, 2022 19:16:43 GMT
Whoever is behind that review is talking out of their proverbial. ABBA's back catalogue is exemplary, give or take a few howlers. Many album tracks are hidden gems. Yes, I agree that the concert could do without Does Your Mother Know but that's just my preference. To suggest the concert is great but that ABBA's music is somehow 'less than' is ridiculous. The MUSIC, those wonderful songs are what MADE ABBA.
And that speeded up Angeleyes is beyond annoying. They did something with the outro to Chiquitita a while back, slowed it down, it went viral. Marginally less irritating but that's TikTok for you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2022 21:19:15 GMT
Casual fans do work many ways. Let's not be so hard on casual ABBA fans, when we are the same to other artists.
I am the same as Richard regarding The Carpenters. I have only compilation albums from them and I may be missing out on good album tracks. I feel the same towards Elvis Presley, Diana Ross/the Supremes, Buddy Holly, The Kinks, Queen, Hot Chocolate, Bob Marley etc.
And some people are the same towards ABBA. They just want Gold Greatest Hits and maybe the Mamma Mia films.
That critic says there are 20 EXCELLENT ABBA songs - and is on the whole quite positive towards the concert.
Let's take some positives and go beyond the headlines.
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Post by undertheappletree on Jun 10, 2022 6:44:00 GMT
Decided to read the Spectator article, written by a freelance music writer, who also writes for other publications; Guardian being one. Firstly l think most of Abba, Sold their rights to their Back Catalogue, back in late 80s, early 90s, when Stig decided to sell Polar Music to Polydor. So they don't earn as much probably, as most People, and he believes. Although he praises the Technical Wizardry of the Show and Venue, he fails to mention the 20 Excellent Songs HE Claims Abba only have. Although The Day Before You Came' must be One, and ST (Sic) and TACOM probably two others. But to Say Abba have 20 Excellent Songs, and at the same time say they have the weakest BC of any major Artist, is a kind of contradictory. I would be pushed to name 20 Excellent Songs by any Major contemporary Popular Artists. It's all down to mostly Personal taste, and all Bands Artists have weak songs like the l do"s and and Ring Ring's. I think there are many Abba hidden gems, but will remain hidden to The Casual Buyer's same with other Artists. He does say there are no Excellent Songs on Voyage' l think there are some. But nothing needs to be Excellent, look at Waterloo, that launched Abba, Still popular nearly fifty years later, a Good Song. Guardian More Positively www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/09/guardian-readers-on-abba-voyage |
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Post by richard on Jun 10, 2022 11:20:14 GMT
.[...] I would be pushed to name 20 Excellent Songs by any Major contemporary Popular Artists. It's all down to mostly Personal taste, and all Bands Artists have weak songs like the l do"s and and Ring Ring's. [...] Same here regarding naming 20 excellent songs of any artist I like. Perhaps, unlike a some avid ABBA fans, the best artists are highly self-critical of their work; and Benny seems to be very much in this category. Maybe he thinks "twenty excellent ABBA songs" an exaggeration?! But I'm sure he regards a number of ABBA songs as good to very good at least. By the way, undertheappletree, I don't think Benny (nor me, as it happens  ) would agree with you about Ring Ring. I read somewhere, a few years ago, that he still thought - at that time at least - that RR was a good song and that he liked it. And a number of fans on this forum have expressed their preference for Ring Ring over Waterloo, for example. But, as per usual, it's music and so down to personal taste, as you say.. |
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