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Post by chron on Jul 16, 2022 17:38:52 GMT
I can put together a list of thirty. Beyond those listed, I'd just be arranging tracks into an order that wouldn't reflect on anything.
30. Soldiers 29. Dance While The Music Still Goes On 28. Head Over Heels 27. I Still Have Faith In You 26. If It Wasn't For The Nights 25. Gonna Sing You My Love Song 24. Lovelight 23. The King Has Lost His Crown 22. Hey, Hey Helen 21. Like An Angel Passing Through My Room 20. Chiquitita 19. Dum Dum Diddle 18. I Wonder 17. Slipping Through My Fingers 16. When I Kissed The Teacher 15. I'm A Marionette 14. One Man, One Woman 13. Tiger 12. Summer Night City 11. My Love, My Life 10. Eagle 09. That's Me 08. Mamma Mia 07. Move On 06. The Visitors 05. Hole In Your Soul 04. SOS 03. Dancing Queen 02. The Name Of The Game 01. Knowing Me, Knowing You
My top 5-10 never really change. There's obviously a heavy Album/Arrival bias. The one song that gets in from Voyage is I Still Have Faith In You, but I have this feeling I'm making an effort to shoehorn it in. Do I truly prefer it to Take A Chance On Me or Super Trouper? Very possibly not, although it is a fine track, their last great one in all likelihood. I can't see KMKY ever dropping off top spot, it's in a class by itself, never failing to thrill you and fill you with awe—the sound of a great pop band transcending its greatness in a way that even the band itself probably can't quite account for.
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 16, 2022 18:02:58 GMT
Well done for having a go, and your statement about your top 10 couldn’t be truer for many of us, I guess we will have one or two that creep in, but I think most top 10s are pretty stable....
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Post by chron on Jul 16, 2022 19:05:23 GMT
I didn't agonise over the process - no one's going to be holding us to these. I did it quickly, in order to try and throw up natural, felt, 'true' choices rather than balanced, considered, 'curated' choices. I can't shake the feeling that there's a glaring omission, but I haven't yet worked out what it might be.
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Post by gary on Jul 16, 2022 22:44:22 GMT
Fernando?
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Post by chron on Jul 17, 2022 3:44:40 GMT
I've never been that keen on Fernando. Probably Take A Chance On Me ought to be in there; Soldiers and The King Has Lost His Crown shouldn't be ahead of it. (I played The King Has Lost His Crown after doing this and it's not as impressive as I remember it. It's not bad; the contrast between the schadenfreude of the lyrics and their laid-back delivery in the verses is nicely done, but the build into the choruses is strident, and the choruses themselves don't live up to the verses.) Doing this has brought home again how quickly after The Album it becomes slim pickings, in terms of personal favourites.
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Post by gary on Jul 17, 2022 10:24:54 GMT
Yes, a nice choice, Chronington. I agree with what you say about Arrival/The Album. They’re the peak, ABBA’s very own Revolver and Sgt Pepper. It’s not that there aren’t some fine songs on the earlier and later albums, but that those albums are less consistent and inspired. Arrival and The Album are excellent the whole way through. It’s not just the songwriting, though that is the most important thing, it’s the production as well.
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 17, 2022 11:17:15 GMT
I've had an entirely unscientific go at a Top 40. The closer to the top, the more reliable the ranking. As I went through the list, songs got placed on the basis of what I fancy listening to right now. So it could - and will! - change quite soon. I can't remember my previous "chart" but, apart from the Top 5, I think there has been a fair bit of fluctuation. Apologies for the accidental slaughter of any sacred cows.
1. The Visitors
2. The Day Before You Came
3. Like An Angel Passing Through My Room
4. If It Wasn’t For The Nights
5. When All Is Said And Done
6. Lay All Your Love On Me
7. Knowing Me, Knowing You
8. I Still Have Faith In You
9. The Name Of The Game
10. Angeleyes
11. Don’t Shut Me Down
12. Ode To Freedom
13. No Doubt About It
14. Summer Night City
15. One Man, One Woman
16. Elaine
17. Should I Laugh Or Cry?
18. I’m A Marionette
19. Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!
20. Me And I
21. Hey, Hey, Helen
22. Take A Chance On Me
23. The King Has Lost His Crown
24. I Can Be That Woman
25. Gonna Sing You My Lovesong
26. Lovers
27. Lovelight
28. The Winner Takes It All
29. I’ve Been Waiting For You
30. Head Over Heels
31. Dancing Queen
32. Voulez-Vous
33. One Of Us
34. Our Last Summer
35. My Love, My Life
36. Super Trouper
37. When I Kissed The Teacher
38. Dance
39. SOS
40. Ring Ring
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 17, 2022 11:18:08 GMT
^^ Obviously the novelty of Voyage is still playing its part.
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 17, 2022 13:17:50 GMT
It looks like The Visitors is my unshakeable favourite album. I'm still playing Voyage but I notice that my favourites are shifting around. Both WYDWM and JAN have dipped quite a bit in my affections. I surprised myself with the DSMD placing - I thought it might be higher. Maybe I've overplayed it. I'm not sure where Voyage will end up in my affections, ultimately.
I really do like TWTIA but I think, like Dancing Queen, it suffers from being overplayed a bit. SOS is a song I've always admired without really loving, if that makes any sense. I think it could even be that both songs lay the plaintiveness on just a smidgen too much for my tastes? I don't know. They are where they are. Head Over Heels is an interesting one for me: it used to be much further down in my ranking, but I have rediscovered it.
Looking at my list again, I think there's a bunch that could exit this chart soon enough. Like any chart, I guess.
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Post by richard on Jul 17, 2022 13:35:21 GMT
I find these lists fascinating - the concurrences and the wide divergences . Tony's No. 1 The Visitors would be mine, too. And I also would place DQ and TWTIA much lower than I'm sure most fans would. But for me they just don't appeal as they obviously do for so many others. And because I'm a 'good tune' person - even though the lyrics and title do grate on me quite a bit - Dum Dum Diddle would be way up there. Glad Chronington included it - and I Wonder. I cannot understand why the latter isn't held in higher regard. It's a beautiful, poignant melody, wonderfully handled by Frida.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2022 15:03:51 GMT
30. Chiquitita 29. Waterloo 28. My Love, My Life 27. Fernando 26. I Let the Music Speak 25. Money Money Money 24. One of Us 23. No Doubt About It 22. Soldiers 21. As Good as New 20. Ring Ring 19. Kisses of Fire 18. Ode to Freedom 17. Like An Angel Passing Through My Room 16. I’m a Marionette 15. One Man, One Woman 14 The Visitors 13. When All is Said and Done 12. My Mama Said 11. Mamma Mia 10. I Still Have Faith in You 9. Take a Chance on Me 8. Summer Night City 7. Lay All Your Love On Me 6. Eagle 5. Don’t Shut Me Down 4. The Name of the Game 3 Dancing Queen 2. Knowing me Knowing You 1.SOS
The Top 3 set in stone, perhaps top 10. The singles from SOS to Summer Night City are all brilliant. Quite a few tracks from ABBA’s most mature albums, The Album and The Visitors and a few from Voyage - although none from The Visitors make my Top 10. Uptempo “disco” songs SNC and LAYLOM deserved more success at the time. If there’s a curve ball, it probably is My Mama Said - fantastic baseline and jazzy funk feel.
No room in my list for The Winner Takes it All, The Day Before You Came, Super Trouper or Gimme Gimme Gimme. Sorry - not sorry.
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 17, 2022 16:17:52 GMT
Another lamb to the slaughter as they say, well done for having a go Johnny, like previous post of mine, it’s funny how we all find it impossible to compile.. but have a go ...but those top ten are set in stone..lol... Life is full of ifs buts and maybes, and we agree about SNC and LAYLOM, I find it hard to understand why SNC especially, as not being on an album, and we waited months and months for the new single, that it wasn’t a bigger hit than it was, of has time made us appreciate it more.. but really should’ve been top 3. We all know why the comparative failure of LAYLOM, happened, in retrospect what a stupid mistake.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2022 16:47:15 GMT
Yes my Top 10 "set in stone" since, er, last September with those two Voyage songs 🤣
SNC excluded from a studio album, left off Gold, ignored for both Mamma Mia! films finally getting recognition it deserves by being in the show.
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 18, 2022 17:42:51 GMT
Well done... I think the heat has got to us, more have contributed than I ever thought..... Great to see some more “ unusual “ tracks in there especially everyone favourite creeping in at 40 ..lol... But again shows our diversity but also a consensus on others....
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Post by richard on Jul 18, 2022 20:03:56 GMT
I Wonder is a great melody with a 'proper' orchestral arrangement; and Frida sings it so well.
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Post by gary on Aug 1, 2022 19:59:45 GMT
OK, I’ll have a go:
40 Another Town, Another Train 39 Gonna Sing You My Lovesong 38 That’s Me 37 The Day Before You Came 36 Cassandra 35 Angeleyes 34 Should I Laugh Or Cry 33 Ring Ring 32 Super Trouper 31 Soldiers 30 Money, Money, Money 29 As Good As New 28 Honey, Honey 27 I Let The Music Speak 26 Mamma Mia 25 I Am The City 24 I’ve Been Waiting For You 23 Hole In Your Soul 22 I Wonder (Departure) 21 Bang-A-Boomerang 20 Dance (While The Music Still Goes On) 19 Kisses Of Fire 18 One Man, One Woman 17 My Love, My Life 16 Move On 15 When I Kissed The Teacher 14 Tiger 13 Our Last Summer 12 Chiquitita 11 One Of Us 10 If It Wasn’t For The Nights 9 Eagle 8 Summer Night City 7 The Winner Takes It All 6 The Name Of The Game 5 Take A Chance On Me 4 SOS 3 Fernando 2 Dancing Queen 1 Knowing Me, Knowing You
Album breakdown: Ring Ring 2, Waterloo 3, ABBA 4, Arrival 7, The Album 7, Voulez-Vous 5, Super Trouper 3, The Visitors 3, Voyage 0, Miscellaneous 6.
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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 2, 2022 9:06:53 GMT
I think Agnetha was less than keen on SNC too - I seem to remember her describing it as "a bit repetitive." But it's an absolute peach. AND it has ABBA's best ever video. It'd be nice to think that it could get a new lease of life as a single. Yes, yes, I know it's already out there in all its original energetic glory, but I'd argue that both Voyage and the back catalogue could do with this kind of promo. For my money, the restructured WAISAD is the better single choice because it offers something fairly new, but SNC could be rehabilitated this way too. It wouldn't be a remix of the original track (and thus B&B feeling like they were admitting some kind of failure). It would be a new band performance, a box-fresh mix with modern technology to help tackle the gremlins that allegedly blighted the original.
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Post by foreverfan on Aug 2, 2022 14:48:45 GMT
Well done Gary.. I thought for one quick glimpse there was no Dancing Queen aaagghh..lol and there it is at your number 2...... Always good reading to see personal likes and dislikes.... SNC, not sure why it’s grown in popularity, but boy is it up there with a lot of us....
We need a new injection of news I believe, it’s getting a little quiet in here again.......?
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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 2, 2022 21:11:45 GMT
My favourite slow version of WAISAD is by Benny with Viktoria Tolstoy. It was a bonus track on a tribute album. Sublime. I'd love if Benny could have taken this arrangement to Frida in recent times. That tender piano arrangement with Frida's age-weathered voice delivering those lyrics.... it would be a thing of incredible beauty
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Post by jj on Aug 3, 2022 13:30:14 GMT
We need a new injection of news I believe, it’s getting a little quiet in here again.......?
No news means less forum input, agreed.
So ABBA needs to make some news by announcing their next project soon, otherwise forums like this will go quiet!
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Post by richard on Aug 3, 2022 16:45:26 GMT
We need a new injection of news I believe, it’s getting a little quiet in here again.......?
No news means less forum input, agreed.
So ABBA needs to make some news by announcing their next project soon, otherwise forums like this will go quiet! I wonder if a forum such as this has much of a future. Bjorn and Benny have said that Voyage is it. Going by their past remarks, it's tempting to think that they don't really mean it and that we'll get something more. But their ages - and ours; and younger fans' continued interest - is against it, I think. By the way guys, are your current placings of songs still current, even after a few days? And do those placings mean you simply prefer them or think them musically/lyrically/arrangement-wise superior to those not on your list? I ask because, for example, I think I prefer listening to Dum Dum Diddle to Money Money Money,even though, all round, I regard MMM as a better song on Arrival. It's amazing really how diverse our preferences can be even when it comes to ABBA; for example, my favouite ABBA track, The Visitors, doesn't even make Gary's list! None taken, Gary
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Post by gary on Aug 3, 2022 18:20:01 GMT
I simply prefer them. I doubt I could make a strong argument for Another Town, Another Train being a better song than The Visitors.
The Visitors is a middling ABBA song for me. I like the verses a lot, but the chorus and the instrumental parts seem like a bit of a rehash to me. Still, even a middling ABBA song is pretty darn good.
I’m amazed that someone could rate No Doubt About It above Dancing Queen and SOS! 😀
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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 4, 2022 11:37:50 GMT
I wonder if a forum such as this has much of a future. I think the demise of the forum (I mean the general media entity, not this one specifically) might have slowed a bit. Social media has destroyed many, but now things seem to be shifting again. Facebook has fallen out of favour with many. Instagram has turned itself into an absolute mess and TikTok seems to be so youth-oriented that codgers like me have neither a clue nor an apparent welcome. Twitter occupies some strange space where a battle between good and evil rages alongside cat videos, Russian bots, radicalised soccer moms and K-pop hysteria. Try discussing your personal Top 40 in 128 characters or less. So as long as there remains some impetus to actually get into a chat, these forums might still have a weak pulse. Of course, given my track record with predictions, we could easily be in our local coffee shops this time next week, lecturing innocent bystanders about the merits of Happy Hawaii and why I Am Just A Girl is the most probable cause of conflict in the Middle East. The Voyage album ignited a decent amount of discussion here but not as big an uptick in new membership as I expected. I think the shows may well grow a new fanbase - certainly a better-focused one than the Mamma Mia franchise created. It might bring a trickle of visitors over time but I wonder if they'd have the patience for some of the nitpicking and " well actually..." that arises from long-term fandom. And I mean that in a positive sense: we sometimes get stuck into the details of a discussion that no civilian or spouse would be expected to tolerate. It's a support group for anoraks like me.
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Post by richard on Aug 4, 2022 13:13:24 GMT
I wonder if a forum such as this has much of a future. I think the demise of the forum (I mean the general media entity, not this one specifically) might have slowed a bit. [...] Hope you're right about that, Tony. I do recall that there wasn't a single post here for several days, maybe a couple of years back. But that was probably partly attributable to people's disappointment that 'the two new songs' were failing to appear. Then Voyage appeared, of course. This forum is not going to be a buzz of activity - it's unrealistic to expect that. But let's hope it avoids becoming a one-post-every-other-day affair.
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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 4, 2022 19:55:30 GMT
Yeah, I think the quiet periods will be increasingly regular features. The 30th anniversary of Gold may generate a tiny bit of chat. The overdue releases for The Visitors might generate a bit more. After that, I think it'll be stuff like Voyage setlist changes. The lead-up to the 50th anniversary of Eurovision might be interesting. I can't imagine that there won't be some commemorative re-issues and a compilation.
Prior to summer 2021, we did pretty well to find stuff to discuss about a retired group and a decades-old back catalogue.
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Post by foreverfan on Aug 5, 2022 9:05:47 GMT
I was wondering what my 1000th post was going to be.. something of great new news, a new single, but alas it’s to agree with the above..lol Marketing is a strange and wonderful tool, and the older I get the more I think it’s “ US” ( not specifically, general public) who are the fools who get sucked into buying a product, a must have.. ( for instance the new designer handbag on TV this morning, resembles a dustbin plastic sack! and is selling for 100s if not 1000s of pounds, who are the bigger fools... not those that market, as I’m talking about the stupidity, but those who will cast it aside in a few months! ).
So the “ new” Gold will service those Devote collectors and those who wish to replace their scratched CDs, but alas not me.... It looks all good and as for price, does it really matter. I’m just hoping with the 50th around the corner that we will truly get something worth having, time will tell of course.
So my 1000th has turned into a little rant..lol.
I hope this forum continues, I just wish more would contribute, there’s over 600 members now, how many post.. 25 , 30 at most., I’d love to hear more from the younger/ new members and their views... come on please put finger to keypad.....
Moving onto 1001st post..lol
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Post by Michal on Aug 5, 2022 9:06:06 GMT
The lead-up to the 50th anniversary of Eurovision might be interesting. I can't imagine that there won't be some commemorative re-issues and a compilation. I'm quite certain that 2024 will be a busy year for ABBA fans. The 40th anniversary of Waterloo back in 2014 was very interesting - Waterloo Deluxe, The Official Photo Book, Live at Wembley Arena, the vinyl singles box, Chess Deluxe... have I forgotten anything? So I can't imagine they would not make the most of the 50th anniversary. But after that? Who knows. Unless Benny and Björn finally relent and give their blessing to releasing something from the vaults now and then, it will be over. I'm sure they will find a way to re-release the whole back catalogue again but how many times yet it can be done?
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Post by foreverfan on Aug 5, 2022 9:10:52 GMT
ironically I posted my 1000th in the wrong thread...lol
it’s an age thing...
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Post by richard on Aug 5, 2022 11:37:53 GMT
[...] I hope this forum continues, I just wish more would contribute, there’s over 600 members now, how many post.. 25 , 30 at most., I’d love to hear more from the younger/ new members and their views... come on please put finger to keypad... Apart from Voyage, has there been much to say about ABBA that hasn't been said before on previous forums from years ago? Of course, that's not a reason to stop discussing the group - any more than avoiding talking about the weather with a friend, or refusing to prepare a meal that includes potatoes yet again! But maybe a few who might otherwise post are reluctant to do so for fear of repeating others' views that they may remember reading elsewhere before. It's a difficult one if, like me, you're not into discussing the wrinkles and niceties of yet another release of old tracks, for example. But I really like reading about others' responses to ABBA's songs, positive or not.
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Post by iiwftn on Jul 29, 2023 0:55:47 GMT
My top 40 ABBA songs (highly controversial - might offend - I regret nothing)
Disclaimer: some big, big songs never made the cut, including:
- Gimme, Gimme, Gimme 😮 - Mamma Mia 😮 - I have a dream 😏 - Chiquita 😮 - Money, Money, Money 😮 - Lay all your love on me 😮😮
My ABBA top 40 (with ratings)
40. Thank you for the music 7/10 39. S.O.S. 7/10 38. The name of the game 7/10 37. Don’t shut me down 7/10 36. Voulez-Vous 7/10 35. The king has lost his crown 7/10 34. Hole in your soul 7/10 33. Fernando 7/10 32. Eagle 8/10 31. Does your mother know 8/10 30. Suzy-Hang-Around 8/10 29. Honey Honey 8/10 28. I do, I do, I do, I do, I do 8/10 27. Summer Night City 8/10 26. Why did it have to me 8/10 25. Slipping through my fingers 8/10 24. When I kissed the teacher 8/10 23. Head over heels 8/10 22. Rock me 8/10 21. The day before you came 8/10 20. So Long 8/10 19. Waterloo 8/10 18. Ring Ring 8/10 17. Happy New Year 8/10 16. Take a chance on me 8/10 15. He is your brother 8/10 14. Love isn’t easy (but it sure is hard enough) 9/10 13. Tiger 9/10 12. I still have faith in you 9/10 11. Knowing me, knowing you 9/10 10. The winner takes it all 9/10 9. Super Trouper 9/10 8. Angeleyes 9/10 7. Our last summer 9/10 6. Bang-A-Boomerang 9/10
5. Me and Bobby and Bobby’s Brother 9/10
4. People Need Love 10/10
3. Dancing Queen 10/10
2. Gonna sing you my love song 10/10
1. IF IT WASN’T FOR THE NIGHTS 10/10
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