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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 2, 2022 21:11:45 GMT
My favourite slow version of WAISAD is by Benny with Viktoria Tolstoy. It was a bonus track on a tribute album. Sublime. I'd love if Benny could have taken this arrangement to Frida in recent times. That tender piano arrangement with Frida's age-weathered voice delivering those lyrics.... it would be a thing of incredible beauty
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Post by jj on Aug 3, 2022 13:30:14 GMT
We need a new injection of news I believe, it’s getting a little quiet in here again.......?
No news means less forum input, agreed.
So ABBA needs to make some news by announcing their next project soon, otherwise forums like this will go quiet!
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Post by richard on Aug 3, 2022 16:45:26 GMT
We need a new injection of news I believe, it’s getting a little quiet in here again.......?
No news means less forum input, agreed.
So ABBA needs to make some news by announcing their next project soon, otherwise forums like this will go quiet! I wonder if a forum such as this has much of a future. Bjorn and Benny have said that Voyage is it. Going by their past remarks, it's tempting to think that they don't really mean it and that we'll get something more. But their ages - and ours; and younger fans' continued interest - is against it, I think. By the way guys, are your current placings of songs still current, even after a few days? And do those placings mean you simply prefer them or think them musically/lyrically/arrangement-wise superior to those not on your list? I ask because, for example, I think I prefer listening to Dum Dum Diddle to Money Money Money,even though, all round, I regard MMM as a better song on Arrival. It's amazing really how diverse our preferences can be even when it comes to ABBA; for example, my favouite ABBA track, The Visitors, doesn't even make Gary's list! None taken, Gary
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Post by gary on Aug 3, 2022 18:20:01 GMT
I simply prefer them. I doubt I could make a strong argument for Another Town, Another Train being a better song than The Visitors.
The Visitors is a middling ABBA song for me. I like the verses a lot, but the chorus and the instrumental parts seem like a bit of a rehash to me. Still, even a middling ABBA song is pretty darn good.
I’m amazed that someone could rate No Doubt About It above Dancing Queen and SOS! 😀
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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 4, 2022 11:37:50 GMT
I wonder if a forum such as this has much of a future. I think the demise of the forum (I mean the general media entity, not this one specifically) might have slowed a bit. Social media has destroyed many, but now things seem to be shifting again. Facebook has fallen out of favour with many. Instagram has turned itself into an absolute mess and TikTok seems to be so youth-oriented that codgers like me have neither a clue nor an apparent welcome. Twitter occupies some strange space where a battle between good and evil rages alongside cat videos, Russian bots, radicalised soccer moms and K-pop hysteria. Try discussing your personal Top 40 in 128 characters or less. So as long as there remains some impetus to actually get into a chat, these forums might still have a weak pulse. Of course, given my track record with predictions, we could easily be in our local coffee shops this time next week, lecturing innocent bystanders about the merits of Happy Hawaii and why I Am Just A Girl is the most probable cause of conflict in the Middle East. The Voyage album ignited a decent amount of discussion here but not as big an uptick in new membership as I expected. I think the shows may well grow a new fanbase - certainly a better-focused one than the Mamma Mia franchise created. It might bring a trickle of visitors over time but I wonder if they'd have the patience for some of the nitpicking and " well actually..." that arises from long-term fandom. And I mean that in a positive sense: we sometimes get stuck into the details of a discussion that no civilian or spouse would be expected to tolerate. It's a support group for anoraks like me.
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Post by richard on Aug 4, 2022 13:13:24 GMT
I wonder if a forum such as this has much of a future. I think the demise of the forum (I mean the general media entity, not this one specifically) might have slowed a bit. [...] Hope you're right about that, Tony. I do recall that there wasn't a single post here for several days, maybe a couple of years back. But that was probably partly attributable to people's disappointment that 'the two new songs' were failing to appear. Then Voyage appeared, of course. This forum is not going to be a buzz of activity - it's unrealistic to expect that. But let's hope it avoids becoming a one-post-every-other-day affair.
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Post by HOMETIME on Aug 4, 2022 19:55:30 GMT
Yeah, I think the quiet periods will be increasingly regular features. The 30th anniversary of Gold may generate a tiny bit of chat. The overdue releases for The Visitors might generate a bit more. After that, I think it'll be stuff like Voyage setlist changes. The lead-up to the 50th anniversary of Eurovision might be interesting. I can't imagine that there won't be some commemorative re-issues and a compilation.
Prior to summer 2021, we did pretty well to find stuff to discuss about a retired group and a decades-old back catalogue.
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Post by foreverfan on Aug 5, 2022 9:05:47 GMT
I was wondering what my 1000th post was going to be.. something of great new news, a new single, but alas it’s to agree with the above..lol Marketing is a strange and wonderful tool, and the older I get the more I think it’s “ US” ( not specifically, general public) who are the fools who get sucked into buying a product, a must have.. ( for instance the new designer handbag on TV this morning, resembles a dustbin plastic sack! and is selling for 100s if not 1000s of pounds, who are the bigger fools... not those that market, as I’m talking about the stupidity, but those who will cast it aside in a few months! ).
So the “ new” Gold will service those Devote collectors and those who wish to replace their scratched CDs, but alas not me.... It looks all good and as for price, does it really matter. I’m just hoping with the 50th around the corner that we will truly get something worth having, time will tell of course.
So my 1000th has turned into a little rant..lol.
I hope this forum continues, I just wish more would contribute, there’s over 600 members now, how many post.. 25 , 30 at most., I’d love to hear more from the younger/ new members and their views... come on please put finger to keypad.....
Moving onto 1001st post..lol
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Post by Michal on Aug 5, 2022 9:06:06 GMT
The lead-up to the 50th anniversary of Eurovision might be interesting. I can't imagine that there won't be some commemorative re-issues and a compilation. I'm quite certain that 2024 will be a busy year for ABBA fans. The 40th anniversary of Waterloo back in 2014 was very interesting - Waterloo Deluxe, The Official Photo Book, Live at Wembley Arena, the vinyl singles box, Chess Deluxe... have I forgotten anything? So I can't imagine they would not make the most of the 50th anniversary. But after that? Who knows. Unless Benny and Björn finally relent and give their blessing to releasing something from the vaults now and then, it will be over. I'm sure they will find a way to re-release the whole back catalogue again but how many times yet it can be done?
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Post by foreverfan on Aug 5, 2022 9:10:52 GMT
ironically I posted my 1000th in the wrong thread...lol
it’s an age thing...
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Post by richard on Aug 5, 2022 11:37:53 GMT
[...] I hope this forum continues, I just wish more would contribute, there’s over 600 members now, how many post.. 25 , 30 at most., I’d love to hear more from the younger/ new members and their views... come on please put finger to keypad... Apart from Voyage, has there been much to say about ABBA that hasn't been said before on previous forums from years ago? Of course, that's not a reason to stop discussing the group - any more than avoiding talking about the weather with a friend, or refusing to prepare a meal that includes potatoes yet again! But maybe a few who might otherwise post are reluctant to do so for fear of repeating others' views that they may remember reading elsewhere before. It's a difficult one if, like me, you're not into discussing the wrinkles and niceties of yet another release of old tracks, for example. But I really like reading about others' responses to ABBA's songs, positive or not.
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Post by iiwftn on Jul 29, 2023 0:55:47 GMT
My top 40 ABBA songs (highly controversial - might offend - I regret nothing)
Disclaimer: some big, big songs never made the cut, including:
- Gimme, Gimme, Gimme 😮 - Mamma Mia 😮 - I have a dream 😏 - Chiquita 😮 - Money, Money, Money 😮 - Lay all your love on me 😮😮
My ABBA top 40 (with ratings)
40. Thank you for the music 7/10 39. S.O.S. 7/10 38. The name of the game 7/10 37. Don’t shut me down 7/10 36. Voulez-Vous 7/10 35. The king has lost his crown 7/10 34. Hole in your soul 7/10 33. Fernando 7/10 32. Eagle 8/10 31. Does your mother know 8/10 30. Suzy-Hang-Around 8/10 29. Honey Honey 8/10 28. I do, I do, I do, I do, I do 8/10 27. Summer Night City 8/10 26. Why did it have to me 8/10 25. Slipping through my fingers 8/10 24. When I kissed the teacher 8/10 23. Head over heels 8/10 22. Rock me 8/10 21. The day before you came 8/10 20. So Long 8/10 19. Waterloo 8/10 18. Ring Ring 8/10 17. Happy New Year 8/10 16. Take a chance on me 8/10 15. He is your brother 8/10 14. Love isn’t easy (but it sure is hard enough) 9/10 13. Tiger 9/10 12. I still have faith in you 9/10 11. Knowing me, knowing you 9/10 10. The winner takes it all 9/10 9. Super Trouper 9/10 8. Angeleyes 9/10 7. Our last summer 9/10 6. Bang-A-Boomerang 9/10
5. Me and Bobby and Bobby’s Brother 9/10
4. People Need Love 10/10
3. Dancing Queen 10/10
2. Gonna sing you my love song 10/10
1. IF IT WASN’T FOR THE NIGHTS 10/10
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 29, 2023 6:36:39 GMT
Well done, never a easy task and there were always going to be surprises, and yours is no different, your number 2 will surprise most. There's never a correct " list" just what we prefer at a given moment in time... so thanks for posting...
I noticed that I started this just over a year ago, so for fun I'll try and post my current top 10/20 and see if much has changed, a little shuffle here and there I expect but who knows there may be a surprise.... later....
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Post by johnny on Jul 29, 2023 8:26:41 GMT
Here's my list updated from last July. Expect another one next July.
Not much change except for Voyage album tracks dropping DSMD from 5 to 15 and OTF in Top 20 to outside Top 40. ISHFIY remains Top 10.
From Voyage show big climbs for Chiquitita and The Winner Takes it All. Climbs also for MMM, TACOM and LAYLOM. Previous list was Top 30
40. So Long (-) 39. I've Been Waiting For You (-) 38. One Man One Woman (15) 37. Gimme Gimme Gimme (-) 36. Voulez Vous (-) 35. Nina Pretty Ballerina (-) 34. Another Town, Another Train (-) 33. Hole in Your Soul (-) 32. Elaine (-) 31. Cassandra (-) 30. When All is Said and Done (13) 29. Waterloo (29) 28. My Love, My Life (28) 27. Fernando (27) 26. I Let the Music Speak (26) 25. Head Over Heels (-) 24. One of Us (24) 23. No Doubt About It (23) 22. Soldiers (22) 21. As Good as New (21) 20. Ring Ring (20) 19. Kisses of Fire (19) 18. Money Money Money (25) 17. Like An Angel Passing Through My Room (17) 16. The Winner Takes it All (-) 15. Don't Shut Me Down (5) 14 The Visitors (14) 13. Chiquitita (30) 12. My Mama Said (12) 11. I'm a Marionette (16) 10. I Still Have Faith in You (10) 9. Mamma Mia (11) 8. Eagle (6) 7 Summer Night City (8) 6 The Name of the Game (4) 5. Take a Chance on Me (9) 4. Lay All Your Love On Me (7) 3 Dancing Queen (3) 2. Knowing me Knowing You (2) 1.SOS (1)
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 29, 2023 12:31:10 GMT
I haven't done one of these things in such a long time. Utterly unscientific, completely subjective, entirely subject to revision (but that top 3 has been pretty much unassailable for decades). The biggest surprise for me is the high placings for the Voyage songs - that might change in another year. My iTunes play stats suggest that I'm still very fond of the album. I can't remember much about my original "chart" but I think that LAYLOM, Angeleyes and HOH have climbed a few spots. It feels like sacred cows such as DQ and TWTIA should be higher, but I honestly find myself skipping them on occasion. They're probably victims of being overplayed. Still love them, though.
Edit: just noticed that I've overlooked SOS. Not sure what I'd swap out in its favour... [ponders] Adios, WIKTT.
Edit No. 2 - wake up, Tony, where is SNC? I squoze it in between NDAI and OTF. Adios DWTMSGO
40 – My love, my life 39 – He is your brother 38 – Ring, ring 37 – S.O.S. 36 – Money, money, money 35 – Elaine 34 – Lovelight 33 – Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! ( A man after midnight) 32 – Gonna sing you my lovesong 31 – I’ve been waiting for you 30 – I wonder (departure) 29 – Head over heels 28 – Super trouper 27 – Chiquitita 26 – Take a chance on me 25 – The winner takes it all 24 – Me and I 23 – Our last summer 22 – Dancing queen 21 – The king has lost his crown 20 – Hey, hey, Helen 19 – Lovers (live a little longer) 18 – I’m a marionette 17 – One man, one woman 16 – Voulez-vous 15 – The name of the game 14 – Should I laugh or cry? 13 – Ode to freedom 12 – Summer Night City 11 – No doubt about it 10 – Don’t shut me down 9 – When all is said and done 8 – Angeleyes 7 – Knowing me, knowing you 6 – Lay all your love on me 5 – I still have faith in you 4 – If it wasn’t for the nights 3 – Like an angel passing through my room 2 – The day before you came 1 – The visitors
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Post by iiwftn on Jul 29, 2023 12:56:01 GMT
Well done, never a easy task and there were always going to be surprises, and yours is no different, your number 2 will surprise most. There's never a correct " list" just what we prefer at a given moment in time... so thanks for posting... I noticed that I started this just over a year ago, so for fun I'll try and post my current top 10/20 and see if much has changed, a little shuffle here and there I expect but who knows there may be a surprise.... later.... Thank you. ‘Gonna Sing You My Love Song’ is an absolutely beautiful track and yet almost completely unknown outside of the ABBA community. Everything about it is class.
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Post by HOMETIME on Jul 29, 2023 13:09:12 GMT
In complete agreement about GSYMLS. It's an oasis of elegance in those garish early days. I've always thought it was like a Dusty Springfield song - Breakfast In Bed, maybe, or Just A Little Loving. I love how Frida has stripped all of the vibrato from her voice and made the performance so vulnerable.
I do remember it being mentioned in an interview with the lead singer of an edgy early noughties band. Can't remember who now, but it was his favourite ABBA song. Imagine what a lovely curveball it would make on the Voyage setlist?!
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 29, 2023 15:55:17 GMT
Ok, for my second moment in time , one year on... A couple of surprises for myself, no doubt in the fullness of time, and I had to choose just one track, normality would resume... I've based it on what I've listened to, and for ease of writing have just done a top 20..lol...
1. Lay All Your Love On Me ( up a1) 2. Summer Night City ( up 5) 3. Don't Shut Me Down ( up 1) 4. Dancing Queen ( down 3 !! ) 5. The Visitors ( up 2) 6. Kisses Of Fire (down 3) 7. Voulez Voys ( up 7) 8. Take A Chance On Me ( up 4) 9. Lovelight (up2) 10. On And On And On ( up 17 ) 11. When You Danced With Me ( new entry ) 12. Gimme Gimme Gimme ( up 3) 13. The Winner Takes It All ( down 4) 14. SOS ( up 2) 15. As Good As New ( down 10) 16. Angeleyes ( up 21) 17. Hey Hey Helen ( non mover ) 18. If It Wasn't For The Nights ( non mover ) 19. I've Been Waiting For You ( down 9) 20. Money Money Money ( new entry)
All are subjective of course, and only 2 tracks from Voyage, will any others make it as time goes by ? Looks as if I'm a sucker for the more uptempo tracks..... Back to this in 2024.. lol
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Post by johnny on Jul 29, 2023 20:29:59 GMT
Foreverfan well you certainly do like the uptempo tracks.
Big moves up for Money Money Money and Angeleyes. I didn't have you dowm for the TikTok audience 😃
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Post by foreverfan on Jul 30, 2023 8:43:01 GMT
OMG ^^ I didn't realise until you mentioned the subliminal influence that the likes and media had on my choices 😱
That all said I've always preferred the more uptempo, depends on mood of course..
As many have mentioned, with over 100 tracks to choose from it's virtually impossible to narrow it down to a top " whatever " , that all said I do feel in general we have our preferred tracks. When was the last time I listened to the likes of Watch Out, Man In The Middle etc...years....
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