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Post by foreverfan on Oct 20, 2019 14:20:35 GMT
I’m a little like Josef in the fact I take my music from many generations , mainly of influence, like my parents and 50s music, 60s as a young child, 70s my generation, 80s my 20s.. and so on, I find it harder to appreciate much of today’s as mentioned before a lot of so called beige music , the Adele and Ed Shreeran leave me mostly unmoved but it’s not to say that they can’t produce the occasional track that I think is ok.
I think we try to move with the generations but many of us get left behind in our own, so its hard to compare, what’s good for me maybe and quite probably crap for you...
Id love to hear the thoughts on the dare I say “ New ABBA generation fans ” those who have only recently found them, recent is subjective of course, but let’s say the last 10 years. It’s hard these days to get a forum to create a top 100 when very few actually post... perhaps to make life easier or potentially harder !! post a top 10.. and thoughts. Quite probably a top 10 is fluid, however like myself you tend to have a constant few, that are always there..
in no particular order today... Dancing Queen, Kisses Of Fire, LAYLOM, those 3 are never “ switch offs” ....
Like Josef mentioned we had a great little community on the other forum and something like 70 eventually posted their top 100, alas all that data is lost I guess but was very interesting reading....forums like taste change, so perhaps a move manageable Top whatever may work...
But would love to hear New fans thoughts.. are they so different from “us old ones “ ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2019 17:28:18 GMT
I agree we have veered from the subject of discussing our anticipation in awaiting new material from ABBA. It would have been interesting to compile a Top 100 of all our ABBA favourites but alas it would prove an onerous task for us all. Such a shame the old forum has disappeared and the archives lost. Let us steer back to the eventual release of the new songs.
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Post by gazman on Oct 22, 2019 10:57:48 GMT
I've heard a story that the original demo for 'I Still Have Faith In You' was recorded by Tommy Körberg, prior to ABBA going into the studio.
This may have either been to provide the girls with a vocal reference, or to see whether the song might have been more suitable as a BAO track. However, I don't have an official confirmation of this fact...
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 22, 2019 11:17:13 GMT
^^^interesting..
If ISHFIY was a BAO “thought”, that’s an interesting twist, as I have often thought the track “ sounds” title wise ! In the vein of Story Of A Heart..
As always.. we wait
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Post by chron on Oct 22, 2019 14:18:55 GMT
Edmund, a top 100 thing was created on the old forum abba4ever, and there were some amazing posts and analysis shared by fans but unfortunately it folded and there wasn't time to save anything. Such a shame as many fans went to a great deal of effort to compile their favourites listing their often heartfelt reasons. Many people, such as Pablo, posted lengthy thoughts on songs such as The Day Before You Came and Dancing Queen. Brilliantly worded, how I wish I could read their erudite thoughts once again. Oh, well. I don't think I saw the abba4ever Top 100, but I did take part in the Top 100/Megarate poll/countdown that took place in the short-lived abbaforum, which was highly entertaining (it was done in instalments, with pauses left between each 'portion' to let some discussion take place on results already revealed, and let anticipation build about which songs were likely to be fighting it out for the top spots), and threw up some interesting results. Fewer people would've submitted lists for that one, I'm sure, than did so for the abba4ever poll, so the results tended not to be as ironed-out and predictable as they might've been. Since it represented so much work (it was set up and orchestrated by a forumite with the username 'Ginger Spice'), I kept copies of the pages - which I'm happy about, since the Internet Archive hasn't preserved many pages at all from that forum. I could dig them out and post the results, perhaps with one or two comments ('Ginger Spice' asked us to submit some capsule summaries about how/why we liked and disliked our choices). I remember Hometime in particular chipping in with some good lines, and there was quite a healthy back-and-forth over differences of opinion. |
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Post by Zeebee on Oct 22, 2019 17:04:25 GMT
^^Ginger Spice is a member of this forum, but it has been a long time since he has logged in and posted.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 17:07:33 GMT
Orf, thank you. I'll leave the posting entirely at your discretion. You don't have to post the results if you don't want to. It would be interesting to read each other's thoughts about our favourite ABBA songs. I did peruse the ABBA4Ever Top 100 from time to time. I can remember it because I only acquired my laptop in 2012. I kept a copy of Ginger Spices's Top 100 somewhere. Returning to the subject about ABBA's new songs. The big question is will they feature prominently once they are released ?
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Post by chron on Oct 23, 2019 16:38:59 GMT
Orf, thank you. I'll leave the posting entirely at your discretion. You don't have to post the results if you don't want to. It would be interesting to read each other's thoughts about our favourite ABBA songs. To make clear: I'd just be putting up the 2016 abbaforum Megarate thread up, in order to preserve it, since the forum it featured in is now defunct. Obviously, if it provokes some fresh discussion, that would be good, but this won't be a new poll! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 17:17:01 GMT
Orf, thank you for this. I hope it does provoke fresh discussion.
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Post by chron on Oct 23, 2019 19:14:35 GMT
Okay, started to put up the 2016 Megarate here. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 9:45:08 GMT
Thank you, Orf, for posting the 2016 ABBA Song Megarate. I really appreciate this.
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Post by catfood on Nov 2, 2019 3:11:10 GMT
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Post by josef on Nov 2, 2019 9:49:34 GMT
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 5, 2019 10:16:54 GMT
Not even a rumour for us to moan about  All gone very very quiet... Looks like my thought of a Christmas release.. isn’t going to happen  |
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Post by gazman on Nov 5, 2019 11:07:58 GMT
No, that's right, Foreverfan - it's been confirmed that nothing will come in 2019, so we're looking at next year.
Although there is supposed to be another re-release of 'Happy New Year' on vinyl for Christmas, if you are into that sort of thing...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2019 11:54:10 GMT
Josef -- I know that it is frustrating, but we have no other choice than to wait until 'sometime' in 2020
for New ABBA Songs. That is when we have been asked to wait until. However '2020' could be any time
from January to December. But, we must wait. That is our only option. ABBA know, that we'd like the New
Songs sooner than that. They also know that they made a big mistake, by telling us, about New Songs in
April 2018. What's done is done. It cannot be changed now. ABBA Fans cannot be 'Untold' that ABBA
Recorded 2 New Songs, in June 2017...
Graham -- Lately, I've not been Posting here, very much, about ABBA, as nothing has been happening.
The same with the 2 ABBA Forums at UKMIX. I feel that there is nothing for me to say, at present. I
could Post about old ABBA Themes, but I've done that many, many times, in the past, and I don't feel
like doing it these days. I have done many Posts under ABBA YouTube Videos, as a lot of Fans still had
the idea that we were getting New ABBA Songs before Christmas. I've explained that we have to wait
until 2020. Other Fans, (at You Tube), have given up on the New Songs. They think that they will never
be released. I've explained, to those Fans, that they are wrong. That we will get New ABBA Songs in 2020.
I just hope that I'm right! The longer the 'Delays' carry on, the more chance, there is, of something going
terribly wrong. Such as something bad happening to one, (or more), of ABBA. Or World War III starting!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 16:11:40 GMT
Rather than Bjorn thinking of still more ways to make cash from 'Mamma Mia!' there are far more interesting
'Projects' that ABBA could do. Rod Stewart is the latest 'Old' Artist to allow the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
to add Orchestral backing, to several of his Old Hits. That Album is out soon. Still no sign of ABBA allowing it
to be done to their Songs. I've never been a big Fan of Rod's 'Sailing', but the added Orchestra turns it into a
really beautiful, engaging 'Piece'.
Another 'Project', that ABBA could allow, is to have a big Director & Stars make a Film about their rise to Fame
and their Years of success and ups and downs. That too is being done for more and more Big Acts. We have
just seen Queen become huge again, due to the 'Bohemian Rhapsody' Film. Now the same people, behind that
Queen Film, have got permission to make one about the Bee Gees - their rise to Fame and ups and downs etc.
So, that is very likely to start a new 'Bee Gees Mania' around the World - as the Queen Film has done for them.
How refreshing, it would be, to hear real ABBA vocals, in a 'Blockbuster' Film about ABBA...
I find those ideas for ABBA, to be far more exciting than Bjorn's obsession with opening 'Mamma Mia!' spin-offs...
I do hope that ABBA return with a New Album, as it would certainly be No.1 all over the World. 'Old' Acts may struggle
to have Big Hit Singles, these Days, but they can still be huge with Albums. The New Electric Light Orchestra Album,
'From Out of Nowhere' will enter at No.1, in the UK, tomorrow. It is their 1st Studio No.1 Album since 'Time' in August
1981. It is only their 4th UK No.1 Album. ABBA were always bigger than ELO, so if they can still have No.1 Studio Albums,
it should be no problem for ABBA to achieve it...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 16:30:40 GMT
I completely agree with what you just mentioned. A film, as they did with Queen. A whole album, as ELO did. That would be super! As far as the "Mamma Mia" thing: I always think that this is also a way of getting younger persons atrackted to ABBA and their music and their albums. To be honest: it is probably the only way, to get that done, through that "Mamma Mia" thing. At least it helps!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 17:55:31 GMT
The UK's No.1 Record Awards Ceremony is The Brits, which take place every February.
ABBA were only ever Nominated in the 1st such Awards. They were started in 1977, but they were The Britannia Awards
that Year. The 1977 Awards looked back at Records since 1952, as that is when the UK Singles Chart began - November
15th 1952. ABBA were Nominated in the Best International Album Category, with 'Arrival'. However, 'Bridge Over Troubled
Water', by Simon & Garfunkel, Won. The Awards then vanished, until 1982, when they started again as The Brit Awards. The
Records Nominated were from 1981, but neither 'The Visitors', nor 'One Of Us' got Nominated. Nor did ABBA as a Group.
I had hoped that, if ABBA returned in 2019, or 2020, they could get Brits Nominations, for 2020 or 2021. However, that will never
happen now. The Brits have now decided that only 9 Awards will be given out each Year, and the International Group Award has
been cancelled! Only Groups, from the UK will be Nominated in the future. So ABBA's 1977 Nomination, looks like the only Brits
acknowledgement, that they will ever get. When you think of all their UK success, it is laughable that The Brits pretty much ignore
them. There was some sort of ABBA Tribute, at the Awards, in 1999, but ABBA were not given a proper Brits Award. Then we have
Take That & Robbie Williams, who could build Towers out of their Brits Awards! (The International Male and International Female, Solo
Awards, will still be presented).
The Brits have also scrapped the Outstanding Contribution To Music Award. That is only given to Acts that they regard as being truly
huge. In the past it was given to The Beatles, Bee Gees, Queen, David Bowie and Elton John etc. ABBA will now never get the chance to be
given it...
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Post by chron on Nov 8, 2019 16:47:24 GMT
The Brits have now decided that only 9 Awards will be given out each Year Anything that shortens the duration of industry back-slapping events like The Brits is to be applauded. |
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Post by josef on Nov 9, 2019 9:23:10 GMT
Maybe the reason ABBA aren't 'honoured' with a Brit is because the people behind it know that only Björn will turn up.
Let's face it, we all want to see Agnetha and Frida.
Those awards thingymebobs are a load of nonsense anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 12:00:31 GMT
Some ABBA Fans still think that 'Fernando''s 14 No.1 Weeks, is still the longest 'Running' No.1 Single in Australian Chart History.
This is wrong. In 2017, Ed Sheeran beat that with 'Shape Of You'. It had 15 Weeks at No.1, in 2 'Runs' - 13 + 2. However, the
ABBA Single's 14 No.1 Weeks, were still the most consecutive No.1 Weeks there. That has now been beaten, by 'Dance Monkey',
by Tones And I. That has just reached 15 consecutive No.1 Weeks there. The same Weeks as Ed Sheeran's 2017 Single, and
the most in a row. So 'Fernando' is now the 3rd 'Longest Running' Australian No.1 Single. ('Dance Monkey' is so peculiar, that I
cannot work out if I like it or not).
Orf and Josef - I get it. You could not care less that ABBA never got a Brit Award. However, a lot of ABBA Fans like to see them get
Awards, so we - as usual - do not all think the same way. The World would be very boring if we all thought the same way...
ABBA could have only been given a Brit Award if they had actually released one, (or more), 100% New Records the Year before.
That is why they got Nominated in the very 1st Brits, for 'Arrival' in 1977. The Awards then vanished until 1982. That was ABBA's
only other chance to be Nominated, as they had released a New Album & Single in 1981. The 1983 Awards did not Nominate any
of their 3 1982 Singles, as none of them were big UK Hits. The 1983 Awards were hardly going to give Best International Group,
and Best International Single, to an Act who had 3 times failed to reach the UK Top 20 in 1982...
It is true, that perhaps, only Benny & Bjorn would turn up to collect a Brit Award, rather than all 4 of ABBA. However, there would
be a good chance that Frida would also turn up. Perhaps even Agnetha too. After all, she traveled around, to promote 'A', in 2013.
In the meantime, we can see - yet again - how hard it is for 'Old' Acts, to have big Hit Singles now. Last Week, George Michael had a
'New' Single released. The 1st since he died - 'This Is How (We Want You To Get High)'. BBC Radio 2 played it as an 'Exclusive'. It got
a lot of UK Air Play. The Press went on about the Single. In yesterday's UK Charts, its lack of Streaming, caused it to fail to enter the
UK Top 100. It did, however, enter the Sales Chart, at No.10. Just as the Pet Shop Boys recently had a No.4 Sales Hit, with 'Dreamland'
and it never even reached No.100 in the Main UK Singles Chart. We will see if ABBA's New Songs can actually manage to be big Hits,
as even Madonna can no longer reach the Main UK Top 10, and she has had 63 Top 10 Hits, in the past! (ABBA have had 19 - the same
number, of UK Top 10 Hits, as the Bee Gees).
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Post by josef on Nov 9, 2019 12:25:44 GMT
In this article, Björn says his favourite play is Waiting For Godot by Samuel Beckett and that it "may have inspired some lyrics lately, we shall see". Could this possibly be an indication of new ABBA songs?! Obviously, I don't want to jump the gun but it's hard not to wonder. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/my-culture-fix-bjoern-ulvaeus-l72wknb0tIncidentally, Colin, it's not so much that I don't like to see ABBA given awards (it's great to see the group members) more that gaining or not gaining a Brit award doesn't MATTER. ABBA's worth is already recognised- its a given. They don't need some silly statue from that razzmatazz show that is basically people just showing off and blowing smoke. ..um, well you get the picture. |
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Post by shoshin on Nov 10, 2019 8:53:08 GMT
In this article, Björn says his favourite play is Waiting For Godot by Samuel Beckett and that it "may have inspired some lyrics lately, we shall see".. He could call it something like 'I've Been Waiting For You'. |
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Post by josef on Nov 10, 2019 11:24:01 GMT
I see what you did there.
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Post by HOMETIME on Nov 10, 2019 13:27:12 GMT
Given that the wait for Godot is endless (he never shows up), Bjorn might be trolling us!
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Post by chron on Nov 10, 2019 14:02:36 GMT
He and Benny should ditch the teasing about new songs, and go the whole hog and star as Vladimir and Estragon in a new production of the play instead. They'd both still cut a down-at-heel dash in threadbare suits, bowler hats and hobnailed boots.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 0:25:15 GMT
Benny and Bjorn are now working on a Pippi Longstocking Project. Apparently, it is about her going to the Circus. It is due to open - in Sweden - round about June 2020. Bjorn says that no New Songs will be written for it, but some 'Old' ones will be adapted for it. Including at least one Benny Andersson Orchestra Song. Somehow I find this News very depressing, as I really was hoping that Benny & Bjorn would concentrate on giving us more New ABBA Songs. It seems that they think that all their 'Projects' are equal. Not in the view of a great many ABBA Fans. This New Project makes me think that we'll never get the New ABBA Songs! Benny & Bjorn don't seem to see them as being very important... There used to be a Swedish Pippi Longstocking TV Series on UK TV in 1969. It was dubbed into English. I recall that she was about 9 Years old and she paid for everything with Gold Coins. She used to buy a lot of Sweets. The Character is very popular in Sweden. Somehow she had a suitcase full of Gold Coins. Her Parents were gone. She survived in life on her own. Yet no-one robbed her. She just went around spending Gold Coins... LINK: link
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 10:39:29 GMT
I read The Local about this project, and in that article is mentioned that there will be new songs!
"There will definitely be some new songs as well," he promised.
This is what Björn has said, according to The Local.
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Post by richard on Nov 16, 2019 10:40:53 GMT
Colin, I suppose that, as ABBA fans, we'd like to think that ABBA would be Benny and Bjorn's first focus. But I think it's simply a matter of their going with the projects that interest them - and, I'm guessing, especially non-ABBA projects because of the avatar experience of the last couple of years!
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