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Post by justabba on Jan 19, 2021 16:52:12 GMT
Latest news on the new songs...
‼️ UPDATE ON THE NEW SONGS ‼️
In November 2020, in the episode 31 of the Swedish podcast ‘Hitfabriken’ where Fredrik Ralstrand interviews the biggest influences in the pop culture in Sweden, the lyricist Ingela Forsmark (Pling) was interviewed. Ingela was asked about her work with Agnetha at minute 33 in the podcast, and she told Fredrik Ralstrand that she keeps in touch with Agnetha. Both have been in Mallorca and sometimes they meet there as they have houses in the island.
When asked if she heard the new ABBA songs, Ingela confirmed that yes. She said the songs are as good as before and she highlighted that she almost cried in “the one Frida sings”. She felt that she didn’t have the permission to talk more about how she heard the songs, making Fredrik curious as more celebrities have heard the songs such as Mark Levengood.
This means we will have a solo from Frida in the new songs! How excited are you?
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Post by onlyabba4meagain on Jan 19, 2021 18:12:31 GMT
Justin -- Like so many things about the New Songs, your Post is 'Good News'. Even 'exciting'.
However, it is not 'Reality' until the Songs are Released. Until that Day, I now hold in my 'excitement'.
Until we get to hear them - and own them - it is best that we relax about the 'New Song's'.
There is an old English saying - 'There is many a slip between cup and lip'. (I guess that it means,
'Don't enjoy your Drink, until it is actually in your mouth'!). Another way of saying: 'Don't count your
Chickens until they are hatched'...
NOTE -- I'm not trying to 'spoil' Justin's News. It is good that he's Posted it. I'm just advising caution,
until the Day - finally! - arrives, when we hear the New Songs. (However many - or few - there are).
I guess that Frida Sings 'Solo' in parts of 'I Still Have Faith In You'. Bjorn's called that one, 'Timeless'.
That sounds more like the one, that Ingela is describing, than 'the other' one - 'Don't Shut Me Down',
which he has described as, 'Like a 70's Disco Song'. That is assuming that Ingela is describing either
of those Songs. It may well be a different 'New' Song - if there are more than 2. (Even if there are
more than 2, it does not mean that 'The Fans' will get the chance to hear/own them all. We will see).
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Post by foreverfan on Jan 19, 2021 18:44:27 GMT
Alas I have to agree😂☹️ Again...
Its not mentioned when she actually heard the new songs, it could be yesterday or years ago 😳, so alas we keep on waiting, I find it strange how only 2 titles have been “ released” no inclination about the other 3.
At least it has started some form of debate again !!
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Post by justabba on Jan 20, 2021 8:59:56 GMT
Alas I have to agree😂☹️ Again... Its not mentioned when she actually heard the new songs, it could be yesterday or years ago 😳, so alas we keep on waiting, I find it strange how only 2 titles have been “ released” no inclination about the other 3. At least it has started some form of debate again !! Well I guess I posted this news because the source is someone who would have no reason to lie. My guess is that she probably heard them at the same time as Mark Levengood. Perhaps they arranged for some industry friends to hear 3 of the new songs as Mark described. |
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Post by foreverfan on Jan 20, 2021 10:29:19 GMT
Dont get me wrong... its always good to hear any news, especially on here, i check everyday for ......nothing.. no one is posting.. understandably of course.
So news of the " new " material is welcome, but "we " cant help being skeptical.. so many false dawns as they say.
It would just tantalize us a bit more if we knew the titles of the new tracks. Otherwise it does conjour up so many ideas even do they exist.. forever locked away in some hidden vault !!
So we continue to wait until it all becomes reality.....
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Post by HOMETIME on Jan 20, 2021 10:49:48 GMT
I think the latest titbit helps us fill in some gaps. We've been told that I Still Have Faith In You is a "timeless" song in 3/4 time, while Don't Shut Me Down" is more uptempo, with a 1970's dance vibe. Sorta. So, on the basis that a ballad is possibly more likely to bring someone to tears, we might reasonably guess that ISHFIY is the one with Frida's leadvocal. And given that it would be highly unlikely that they wouldn't give Agnetha a lead, we can probably expect that DSMD has Agnetha up front.
So that leaves us in the dark about the other songs that have variously been muttered about since The Big Announcement. Assuming they exist at all, there could be a third. That pillock Dan Wooton suggested there were five in all. Another source said there were six.
I wish someone from the ABBA/Polar/Mono camps would say something definitive and end the tedious speculation. If they let people expect a new album and end up releasing no more than two singles, they could risk spoiling some of the goodwill that has been generated.
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Post by justabba on Jan 20, 2021 12:19:09 GMT
Well seemingly Bjorn himself had said on several occasions to different journalists that there were 5 songs, so who knows. Tiny musical point, I understood ISHFIY is in 6/8 which is actually a very different feel to a 3/4 waltz rhythm..
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Post by gamleman on Jan 20, 2021 12:37:11 GMT
Given that ISHFIY is the 'lead song' of this new set, I would be very surprised if Frida does the solo parts, unless Agnetha wanted to shy away from the limelight. I think it much more likely that A and F have their own solo parts in the song, as well as singing together (as in "The Name Of The Game", for example). If DSMD is up-tempo, I think it likely that they sing this one together, as was common in the past for the more lively songs. If there are more than two new songs, I dare say that B&B have given A and F their own songs to lead.
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Post by foreverfan on Jan 20, 2021 12:59:13 GMT
Just as an aside... I believe the " new " book by Carl Magnus Palm has been delayed yet again.... waiting for those elusive new tracks to add to his book.. Sorry "Carl" that's a pretty poor show considering many have paid upfront at least £90 ( i believe ) a few years ago now.. for what.. another empty promise...
I understand the delay to a point , but its very unfair in keeping everyone waiting.... I think, sorry if Im wrong, but its going to be digital anyhow, so why cant the New tracks be an addendum later... emmmm
Another promotional blunder.....
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Post by justabba on Jan 20, 2021 13:04:05 GMT
Given that ISHFIY is the 'lead song' of this new set, I would be very surprised if Frida does the solo parts, unless Agnetha wanted to shy away from the limelight. I think it much more likely that A and F have their own solo parts in the song, as well as singing together (as in "The Name Of The Game", for example). If DSMD is up-tempo, I think it likely that they sing this one together, as was common in the past for the more lively songs. If there are more than two new songs, I dare say that B&B have given A and F their own songs to lead. I completely agree. I'm pretty sure Gorel said way back in 2018 that neither had a lead in the 2 songs |
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Post by foreverfan on Jan 20, 2021 13:09:43 GMT
That's 10 replies in a day more than whole of the month !! lol
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Post by richard on Jan 20, 2021 13:12:23 GMT
Forum activity! And of course it's to do with the ever-new songs. If, indeed, there are five, why no mention of titles for the other three? Not fully written yet? Still in the 'dummy' stage?
The teasing before and the lack of transparency now is disappointing to say the least.
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Post by HOMETIME on Jan 20, 2021 13:27:26 GMT
Well seemingly Bjorn himself had said on several occasions to different journalists that there were 5 songs, so who knows. Tiny musical point, I understood ISHFIY is in 6/8 which is actually a very different feel to a 3/4 waltz rhythm.. Yes, very different feel indeed. But the general point is that the song was described as having a slow feel to it. Then again, we could be fooled: after all, Blondie's "Call Me" is in 6/8 time! |
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Post by justabba on Jan 20, 2021 13:32:48 GMT
Well seemingly Bjorn himself had said on several occasions to different journalists that there were 5 songs, so who knows. Tiny musical point, I understood ISHFIY is in 6/8 which is actually a very different feel to a 3/4 waltz rhythm.. Yes, very different feel indeed. But the general point is that the song was described as having a slow feel to it. Then again, we could be fooled: after all, Blondie's "Call Me" is in 6/8 time! That's very true! I'm imagining something like "time to say goodbye" but I'm probably totally wrong!! |
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Post by HOMETIME on Jan 20, 2021 14:38:18 GMT
I wonder how much of the writing style is influenced by what Benny does for BAO? ISHFIY could even have that romantic 1950s feel to it - something melodic, maybe along the lines of Kara Syster or something. I'm just hoping that DSMD is not like Om Du Var Jag.
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Post by foreverfan on Jan 20, 2021 14:49:13 GMT
Call me selfish and yes its been discussed here before... But Id like a new track to be Christmas related, if not specifically mentioning Christmas, but something that could be played every Christmas time.....has a theme.....
I just feel its they have missed out on....
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Post by justabba on Jan 20, 2021 14:51:41 GMT
I wonder how much of the writing style is influenced by what Benny does for BAO? ISHFIY could even have that romantic 1950s feel to it - something melodic, maybe along the lines of Kara Syster or something. I'm just hoping that DSMD is not like Om Du Var Jag. From what that woman is saying, i guess their style hasent changed too much. |
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Post by gary on Jan 21, 2021 20:29:00 GMT
Given that ISHFIY is the 'lead song' of this new set, I would be very surprised if Frida does the solo parts, unless Agnetha wanted to shy away from the limelight. I think it much more likely that A and F have their own solo parts in the song, as well as singing together (as in "The Name Of The Game", for example). If DSMD is up-tempo, I think it likely that they sing this one together, as was common in the past for the more lively songs. If there are more than two new songs, I dare say that B&B have given A and F their own songs to lead. I completely agree. I'm pretty sure Gorel said way back in 2018 that neither had a lead in the 2 songs My memory might be completely wrong, but I thought that when they announced the two new songs, it was said that one song had an Agnetha lead and one song had a Frida lead. Unfortunately I can’t find anything that backs that up. Why would you be surprised if Frida has the lead on ISHFIY? |
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Post by Alan on Jan 21, 2021 22:31:57 GMT
On page 2 of this topic, there’s a (presumably translated) quote from Görel Hanser stating this about ISHFIY:
“It’s sung together by the ABBA women, Agnetha Fältskog and Anni-Frid Lyngstad, re-igniting their instantly recognisable vocal duel but with neither taking a solo lead”
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Post by jj on Jan 22, 2021 5:13:42 GMT
At least two of these "new" songs were recorded nearly 4 years ago, right? As much as I'm still really looking forward to hearing them, this delay means that they're not actually "new" anymore (in the sense that they were recently recorded).
If they are indeed finally released this year, it will be as though ABBA had, in 1980, added some extra songs on the Super Trouper album that they'd recorded in 1976, for the Arrival album.
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Post by gamleman on Jan 22, 2021 8:45:12 GMT
I completely agree. I'm pretty sure Gorel said way back in 2018 that neither had a lead in the 2 songs My memory might be completely wrong, but I thought that when they announced the two new songs, it was said that one song had an Agnetha lead and one song had a Frida lead. Unfortunately I can’t find anything that backs that up. Why would you be surprised if Frida has the lead on ISHFIY? Let's put it another way... I think it likely ISHFIY as the the lead song (the only one to have its title announced) in the first new recordings from ABBA in 30+ years will showcase both Agnetha and Frida's vocals and not favour either one of them as the lead singer. |
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Post by gary on Jan 22, 2021 9:39:42 GMT
My memory might be completely wrong, but I thought that when they announced the two new songs, it was said that one song had an Agnetha lead and one song had a Frida lead. Unfortunately I can’t find anything that backs that up. Why would you be surprised if Frida has the lead on ISHFIY? Let's put it another way... I think it likely ISHFIY as the the lead song (the only one to have its title announced) in the first new recordings from ABBA in 30+ years will showcase both Agnetha and Frida's vocals and not favour either one of them as the lead singer. Yes, I hope so. I always preferred joint vocals. A second song did have its title announced (Don’t Shut Me Down). Alan (just above) has found a source for ISHFIY having a joint lead. |
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Post by justabba on Jan 22, 2021 11:49:48 GMT
It seems to me she is talking about a track other than the original 2 mentioned, but that's merely my speculation.
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Post by justabba on Jan 22, 2021 11:51:59 GMT
At least two of these "new" songs were recorded nearly 4 years ago, right? As much as I'm still really looking forward to hearing them, this delay means that they're not actually "new" anymore (in the sense that they were recently recorded).
If they are indeed finally released this year, it will be as though ABBA had, in 1980, added some extra songs on the Super Trouper album that they'd recorded in 1976, for the Arrival album.
You are of course right, but the way groups record albums these days 3 year old tracks wouldnt be unusual and we know Benny said they would be adding vocals and strings to the original tracks in 2019. |
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Post by gamleman on Jan 22, 2021 12:07:39 GMT
I can't remember exactly how we got to know the title "Don't Shut Me Down" but I think it was on the grapevine. I'm hoping that is a working title, as I don't like it - it sounds like something an automated machine or robot would be saying. But I suppose it would fit in as the final or perhaps penultimate song of the ABBAtar show.
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Post by justabba on Jan 22, 2021 12:13:22 GMT
I can't remember exactly how we got to know the title "Don't Shut Me Down" but I think it was on the grapevine. I'm hoping that is a working title, as I don't like it - it sounds like something an automated machine or robot would be saying. But I suppose it would fit in as the final or perhaps penultimate song of the ABBAtar show. Bjorn announced it when sky news interviewed him when the original news broke. Think the clip is still on YouTube. I agree it's not a great title. |
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Post by HOMETIME on Jan 22, 2021 13:56:56 GMT
I like the defiance of the title. "Don't shut me down" - don't silence me, let me speak, don't make me irrelevant. I hope that's the direction or spirit of the lyrics - a woman standing up for herself. I guess the feel of the title might depend on the musical hook on which it hangs.
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Post by HOMETIME on Jan 22, 2021 13:59:48 GMT
On page 2 of this topic, there’s a (presumably translated) quote from Görel Hanser stating this about ISHFIY: “It’s sung together by the ABBA women, Agnetha Fältskog and Anni-Frid Lyngstad, re-igniting their instantly recognisable vocal duel but with neither taking a solo lead” We can hope, then, that this confirms the existence of more completed recordings.... Fingers crossed! |
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Post by bennybjorn on Jan 22, 2021 14:40:10 GMT
Anyone else secretly hoping we might get a Bjorn lead vocal on one of these songs?
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Post by abbafan456 on Jan 22, 2021 15:53:15 GMT
Anyone else secretly hoping we might get a Bjorn lead vocal on one of these songs? I would love if Bjorn got to take lead again! At leas we know that the guys have some backing vocals recorded.  http://instagram.com/p/Bs94w2cFRcS |
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