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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 18:24:09 GMT
Alib - I think JAN sounds a bit cobbled together! Now and then combined not working on that song...lol JAN has failed to make Irish Top 50 Hi Johnny. Yes I agree. I wonder if it was a last minute decision? They wanted 10 songs, and there wasn't anything new left over that was good enough, so decided to rework JAN,? As part of the BAO set sometimes, it was probably easy and quick to do!
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Post by madonnabba on Oct 29, 2021 18:54:03 GMT
Well with three singles in the Uk physical charts at present and two reaching number one and one reaching number two , I don't think things are so bad. And neither is Just a notion. Maybe it was their intention to give us something from the past to the present to complete the voyage. I posted the UK physical chart showing them at number one on my Facebook page. Me doing my bit for the cause. Spread the positivity in advance of the album.
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Post by madonnabba on Oct 29, 2021 19:07:36 GMT
Also one of the biggest selling studio albums of all time and one of my favourites, Rumours did not weild big single chart performers. But it is a phenomenal album. And still in the charts.
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Post by justabba on Oct 29, 2021 20:40:39 GMT
They went 40 years between hits but now have had three in quick succession as ABBA return with "new" single Just A Notion. The rockabilly-inspired track is a dusted-off reworking of a song that failed to make the cut for their 1979 album Voulez-Vous. As a low-key teaser for the release of their brand new album, without the sensation that greeted the release of its two predecessors it can only drift into life at No.59 (7,008 sales) as potentially their lowest charting single ever
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Post by HOMETIME on Oct 29, 2021 20:54:13 GMT
As my Kylie-adoring husband reminds me, La Minogue would kill for those chart placings now. A Years & Years collab did nothing for her fortunes.
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Post by Alan on Oct 29, 2021 22:24:11 GMT
Someone’s heard the album… post from PopJustice:
“Saw this small description of the new album on another board:
When You Danced With Me - 2:50 Little Things - 3:08 I Can Be That Woman - 4:01 Keep An Eye On Dan - 4:05 Bumblebee - 3:57 No Doubt About It - 2:56 Ode To Freedom - 3:32
Little Things is the christmas song, its beautiful… has a cute little outro song by children
Keep An Eye On Dan is a highlight , bjorn and benny have some backing vocals towards the end
keep an eye on dan / promise me you can / he gets out of hand, if you let him / so keep an eye on dan
No Doubt About It as well, ubpeat, super 80's sounding, totally sounds like something from a coming of age/teen movie from around then and i love it
Ode To Freedom feels like a beautiful farewell
overall a great mix of ballads, midtempos and upbeat songs on this album”
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Post by madonnabba on Oct 29, 2021 23:10:48 GMT
Thanks Alan. That sounds so promising. My fears over Dan are less now. It's a bittersweet moment...want to hear the new album but knowing they will be the last ever recordings is sad. It would be great to go out on a high note with big sales for the album. Any other year it might have been the biggest selling of the year but Ed and Adele might be a bit of tough competition. They should maybe have released the album 2 or 3 weeks ago. Abba have changed the way I listen to music. I now stream and can see the benefits. I will only buy physical copies of Abba releases and stream the singles and album too. I would not have started streaming otherwise. Did it to support the Abba cause but now see the benefits. Happy days.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 23:11:01 GMT
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Post by Alan on Oct 30, 2021 5:51:54 GMT
Here is an article with B+B in New York Times Someone already posted a link to that the other day, but certainly worth a read if anyone missed it. Unlike in The Guardian interview, there’s no unnecessary party-poopering from Benny. Talking of The Guardian, today’s front page has that new photo of ABBA first seen the other day, with the headline “My my, just how much we’ve missed you. ABBA: exclusive interview” but I can’t find anything online. Is it just a re-hash of the interview from earlier in the week? Or didn’t they actually print it at the time?
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Post by Alan on Oct 30, 2021 7:45:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 8:15:50 GMT
Yes, Alan thanks for posting that link about the tracks. Like Madonnabba my fears of 'Dan' have been eased.
I had the impression Ode to Freedom was a bit The Way Old Friends Do, that Little Things was a bit I Have a Dream-ish and No Doubt About It more umptempo.
Personally I would like an album of varying styles and tempos. Let's hope Just a Notion really is the worst track. And people ask "Why the hell was that a single?"
Nice picture disc.
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Post by madonnabba on Oct 30, 2021 9:02:28 GMT
If Just a notion is the weakest then we are in for a treat. Some of the best songs were never released or were but after the release of the host album....examples being KMKY, Eagle, LAYLOM, The Visitors, Hole in Your Sole , Andante Andante etc. Lyrically Head over Heels better but JAN is catchy , fun and fast. You could throw yourself about to it after a few drinks. Same can't be said of HOH. As Abba fans I think we have came to expect not just the best but flawless productions. They really have spoiled us in the past and hopefully with this new album. Not long now.
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Post by madonnabba on Oct 30, 2021 9:28:28 GMT
Oh meant to say....the boys might have been wrong footed into believing that it was a fan favourite , hence the release or keeping the best as a surprise. I would sooner listen to JAN than IHAD or TKHLHC or Lovers to name a few. Just that intro .
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Post by HOMETIME on Oct 30, 2021 9:30:15 GMT
Thanks for posting that snippet of info about the album, Alan - it's just the shot of positivity we needed. I had decided to stay away for the rest of the week to avoid the conjecture-based doom that threatened to dampen the release but this got me logging back in. There are still three titles about which nothing has been mentioned, so there's still more to explore. Hard to believe that we'll have heard everything this time next week!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 9:51:30 GMT
Thank you for your post Alan. I didn't think I could get more excited than I already am! I definitely still have faith in ABBA! I stand by my prediction that the best songs are yet to come!
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Post by paulman2 on Oct 30, 2021 9:54:43 GMT
It should be noted that if it were not for the initiative of Simon Fuller and the very strong Abba fan base in the UK. No new Abba album would take place. I would like to thank all British fans for their continued and patient interest in Abba. I am one of the few fans of Abba and also European and American rock n roll and country. I also really liked the British band S club 7. With excellent vocals and dance elements. I come from the Czech Republic, where unfortunately rock, hard rock is mainly listened to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 10:23:44 GMT
Paulman2 - yep, we British fans are the best! 😃
Maonnabba - good points about the likes of Eagle, Knowing Me Knowing You or Lay All Your Love On Me
Chart positions - I guess we should focus on the Sales Chart. A #1 #2 and #4 in 2021. Pretty good.
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Post by scaramouche on Oct 30, 2021 10:28:00 GMT
I know it’s normal to have a bit of crisis of faith before an event such as this, and there does seem to be a lot of negativity at the moment but there are always different perspectives.
Someone said ABBA had a bad week…well it’s depends on how you look at it.
Just a Notion was a-listed and record of the week on Europe’s biggest radio station. It ensures there is a good presence on the radio in the run up to the new album. It is also a-list this coming week too.
Just a Notion was also a high new entry on the sales charts. It also made number 59 in the UK chart which is much higher than most legacy acts. Someone mentioned it is significantly higher than the lead single from Madonna’s last album.
ABBA have also got high profile articles in The Guardian and The New York Times. The content of these articles have also led to a number of ancillary articles in other papers. All of this keeps the group in the public eye.
ABBA have made it onto the cover of a European edition of Rolling Stone.
People also seem worried that ISHFIY and DSMD were released first because they represent the best the album has to offer. I think rather they were released first because they are included in the show and were being lined up for single release long before the rest of the album was completed. Benny said the album was completed a week before the launch event.
Personally I love the new tracks. I was disappointed that JAN was released as a single because I wanted something new and progressive..but these decisions are made as part of a wider marketing strategy. The song is retro and they are probably hoping it will appeal to a slightly different demographic to the first two songs.
To me, DSMD is a stone cold classic, and I have every faith that the album will deliver a few more, even if I don’t love every single track.
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Post by livingstoneagle on Oct 30, 2021 10:53:36 GMT
Someone’s heard the album… post from PopJustice: “Saw this small description of the new album on another board: When You Danced With Me - 2:50 Little Things - 3:08 I Can Be That Woman - 4:01 Keep An Eye On Dan - 4:05 Bumblebee - 3:57 No Doubt About It - 2:56 Ode To Freedom - 3:32 I really hate this kind of speculation. We've waited 40 years to hear new ABBA music, why the rush now. Why can't people keep the suprises rather than spoiling it for those who wish to hear it as an original album concept. I've now made the decision to avoid social media for the next six days and make my own mind up if this is a good album or not. One facebook group has already issued a ban on any leaked 'soundbites' being posted, simply because that happened with Agnetha's 'A' when 19 seconds of 'When You Really Loved Somone' was leaked on the net. What the hell can anyone tell from 19 seconds of a song. What's wrong with using your imaginations until you've had the chance to listen objectively and made your own mind up about a track. the internet and its users are such a curse to the art of suprise and objectivity. To actually describe all 7 remaining tracks is pretty pathetic. Login off.
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Post by scaramouche on Oct 30, 2021 10:56:27 GMT
Some people like to speculate and some people enjoy the steady leak of information. It’s not pathetic and you dont have to engage if you do t want to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 11:00:20 GMT
Re: newspaper articles. I guess if Benny didn't say "this is it" there wouldn't have extra publicity in other news outlets.
We all know this is the end. It may encourage more people to buy the album.
I don't see anything wrong in the snippet Alan posted. If you don't like it - or have zero positivity, it is better to log off then.
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Post by Alan on Oct 30, 2021 11:01:28 GMT
As some have pointed out, I think we needed a bit of positivity on here. I know I did.
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Post by foreverfan on Oct 30, 2021 11:13:23 GMT
FYI..
The article on the front page of (UK) The Guardian (insert magazine)..... is nothing more than we all have already read.. no need to get...
I understand Livingstoneagle and think they have done the right thing , personal choice , on the other hand I love all the speculation and reviews so don't mind in the slightest how much is on here, It certainly fills the day !! lol
Much of it may be wrong and what " we " want, me included , I wanted a Christmas track and low and behold they listened to me and wrote one..lol , we all have free choice ( to a point ) and can choose to read or not.. Im really looking forward to everyones thoughts next Friday , as in a previous thread Ill be one of us few who will probably miss out initially on my delivery, unable to download, etc... but will ultimately make up my own mind..on whats good or dare i say not !!
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Post by HOMETIME on Oct 30, 2021 11:17:40 GMT
Spot on, Alan. The descriptions give little away beyond that one listener's experience/opinion. We still know very little about what's coming, we can still only guess what things sound like. As speculations go, I certainly prefer them to the "this single is an unmitigated disaster and the whole album is now ruined" commentary - which was why I had decided to give the discussion a miss until next weekend. I hope no sound snippets are leaked. That said, it's not entirely out of the realms of possibility that a key radio station somewhere might get a world exclusive of one of the new tracks before Friday. It's all part and parcel of the prerelease excitement.
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Post by gamleman on Oct 30, 2021 11:18:02 GMT
As some have pointed out, I think we needed a bit of positivity on here. I know I did. I agree. I'm rather amazed at the amount of negativity from ABBA fans circulating on this forum in the run-up to the album release, when this should be a happy time of excited anticipation. It seems to have been sparked by JAN, which is not to everyone's taste, but accept what you are given! That is what we did in ABBA's heyday - not every ABBA track or single sent a tingle down our spines, but we didn't moan about them. This album is a parting gift and should be received as such. I will be staying away from this forum for a few days from the release date, as I need to develop my own views on the album before I can take in other people's.
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Post by richard on Oct 30, 2021 11:23:22 GMT
It's sometimes expressed negatively that this or that song is "not a single", equating 'single' with 'better'. I've often come to like some album tracks as much as, or even more, than some singles from an artist, including ABBA. For me, it's sometimes a matter of changing and varying tastes and appreciations more than anything one might regard as intrinsic and 'set in stone' about a song. So even if I don't at first go much on a given album track on Voyage, I know from past experience that it's quite likely to change. (And a track I liked initially might go down in my estimation after some more listens.) This is quite a common experience, I imagine.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 11:33:16 GMT
"Single" doesn't mean "better" but you would hope it creates positive feedback.
Just a Notion wasn't that great. Anyway, it has happened. Looking forward to the album next week.
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Post by gamleman on Oct 30, 2021 11:37:35 GMT
Yes, a 'single' is not necessarily one of the best tracks on an album for me either. A single is chosen for its commercial appeal and how it might grab attention on the radio. I wanted "My Love My Life" instead of "Money Money Money" and "One Man One Woman" instead of "Take A Chance On Me", but the wisdom that comes with age and experience now tells me that MMM and TACOM did make better singles.
In normal circumstances, I don't think "I Still Have Faith In You" would have been chosen as a single, but I believe we got both ISHFIY and DSMD as singles because of their messages - the lyrics of these songs must really mean something to ABBA and conveyed their feelings to their fans at that key moment in time. I believe JAN is supposed to be back to 'business as usual' - more light-hearted after quite a serious beginning.
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Post by jj on Oct 30, 2021 12:02:10 GMT
My favourite ABBA song is The Day Before You Came. I tend to like the darker, later ABBA songs. I generally dislike silly music and throwaway lyrics.
It's so counter-intuitve, then, that the likes of me fell completely head over heels in love with JAN! I can't get over how much I adore this song, which, according to most fans, is a "throwaway", "badly produced", embarrassing piece of s--- that ABBA concocted out of old vocal tracks from 1978. It transports me to an extremely happy place. I just wanna dance whenever it comes on. I'm kinda sorry - and flabbergasted - that I'm the only fan who thinks it's the bee's knees! I just love it to death!
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Post by jj on Oct 30, 2021 12:08:40 GMT
I'm guessing the JAN intro is only disliked by people who know that derided song from 1974, which I have never heard before, and I'm guessing most people around the world have never heard before, either.
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