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Post by gamleman on Nov 1, 2021 11:29:04 GMT
I think we have been dwelling rather a lot on sales and chart performances relating to "Voyage". I think we all want "Voyage" and its single to do well in the charts but this is, to an extent, a case of 'keeping up appearances', resulting from ABBA's wonderful track record in the charts, especially in the UK. I dare say that if ABBA had had fewer number ones and more scattered chart placings, we wouldn't be so concerned about the charts and would get on more with receiving the album. I can say that I am very pleased with what we've been given so far. OK, when the album comes out, I may say this track and that track deserved to be a single. But singles don't have the same status as they once did. And a song doesn't need to be a single to catch the public attention, if it is good enough. A prime example is "Thank You For The Music" - nearly everyone in the UK knows this song, but I don't think this is because it was (eventually) released as a single in 1983 and reached No 33. It has probably been pushed to the fore because it was featured on high-performing albums, notably The Album, Greatest Hits Vol 2 and Gold, plus it has been a popular song to cover. B&B pushed "I Wonder" almost as much but it is a lesser-known track, probably because it doesn't have the magical ABBA ingredients of TYFTM. There could be such a track that jumps out of "Voyage" and such a 'public choice' can, in theory, be more easily made a hit these days due to individual downloads and streaming. I think it will be interesting to see how the album is delivered. I want to hear "Voyage" off vinyl first, but this is the first ABBA album that I won't walk into a record shop and buy, depending instead on postal deliveries. I do have a blue-vinyl copy ordered in my local record shop but I expect I won't be able to go out on Friday as I'll be waiting in for the internet deliveries
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Post by JeniLP on Nov 1, 2021 11:30:44 GMT
'Voyage' is the first ABBA album I'm waiting for because back when the others were to come I wasn't even born, lol) Happy anticipation week everyone!
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Post by mjc on Nov 1, 2021 11:34:41 GMT
Hi everyone,
It is fantastic to read these heart-warming posts from people all over the world in these last few days before the release. I am 57, a fan since January 1976 and childishly excited in anticipation again.
As a teenager, I had a few friends who were (kind of) fans with me but nobody bought ABBA's albums like I did. By 1980 they had drifted away. Of course I like other music too but have never wavered from loving ABBA. They sort of saved my life when I could escape from other unhappy things going on in my life into their music. And I have since bought and grown to love a lot of things done by the members, especially Krisina and BAO stuff.
Benny is a genius and takes inspiration from so many other types of music and therefore ABBA always have a certain operatic quality to their melodies.
It is nice to be a member of this forum and read the comments from everyone and know that we are all ABBA fans and enjoy going through this together (even if online).
Martin
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 1, 2021 12:28:09 GMT
^^^ Welcome Martin, always good to hear different points of view... Were similar in age ( 59 ) and starting of Loving Abba....
Are you the only one from Tokyo ? great place, lucky to have been to Japan a few years ago....
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Post by Alan on Nov 1, 2021 12:29:28 GMT
I envy those who witnessed arrival, the album and voulez-vous "in real time". The Album was the first of those that I experienced in real time. My brother had bought Arrival (his first ABBA album) at the end of 1977 when I was five, and I remember being a bit disappointed that The Name of The Game (the current single) wasn’t on it. He got The Album not that long after it came out in the UK and the earlier albums plus Greatest Hits (excluding Ring Ring which wasn’t available) throughout 1978. Voulez-Vous was therefore the first album that involved a slight wait, though some of the tracks had been premiered via either Mike Yarwood or ABBA In Switzerland. When I hear the intro of As Good As New now, it can still take me back to that first listen, it just sounded so different to what they’d done before. Obviously as a kid, time goes slower but it never seemed like we were waiting an age for a new album. I was 10 when The Visitors came out (we acquired Ring Ring at some point before that, which bridged a gap) and at that age I was much less subjective (which perhaps explains why I don’t dislike any ABBA song). It just seemed the norm really, there would be an ABBA album every year (or nearly so). 40 years away in 1981 to me would have seemed like a thousand years. My parents and brother are gone but somehow ABBA are still here!
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Post by Alan on Nov 1, 2021 12:37:08 GMT
Someone’s mentioned on PopJustice that there are reports of cassettes arriving already! Not sure if this is from the official store or somewhere else. It’s therefore possible that songs could get leaked before Friday.
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Post by gamleman on Nov 1, 2021 12:56:23 GMT
Someone’s mentioned on PopJustice that there are reports of cassettes arriving already! Not sure if this is from the official store or somewhere else. It’s therefore possible that songs could get leaked before Friday. If so, it's a repeat of what happened with "The Album" - I got the cassette weeks before the vinyl came out in the UK. It's difficult to imagine this happening for "Voyage", unless one vendor has slipped up. Do we know in which country it has supposedly occurred? For nostalgia's sake, I have ordered the standard "Voyage" cassette from HMV, but I doubt that I will get it early, as they'll send the vinyl, CD and cassette together.
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Post by richard on Nov 1, 2021 12:57:14 GMT
The anticipation this week for the Voyage album - wonderful! Slight hope has been replaced with certainty! Still hard to believe. Yeah. We should just concentrate on the album and it's contents. Chart positions are irrelevant. 100 years from now, today's artists and what went before will probably have been forgotten about...you rarely hear songs from the sixties on the radio these days. I would say that I hear more Abba than Beatles whether it be in shops radio or on TV and even on soaps in the background. And even better a new album. Happy days. And a Christmas song to play over Christmas. That will be special. It's really strange , along with family and friends ,Abba has been a constant in my life for 43 years. The only other artist that came close to them for me is Madonna but not for as long as Abba. It was a dream come true when she brought out Hung up. And now another dream is about to come true...ahah I happen to like both The Beatles and ABBA, and I agree: interest in The Beatles has definitely declined - along with most of the pop music of the '60s. But, for me, that's an age thing - it's not a reflection on the overall quality of the music back then. (Great popular music and singers from previous decades - before Elvis, say - are seldom played on radio nowadays). Many who were teenage fans of The Beatles' in the 1960s are now in their 70s; and older fans during that decade are either very old or dead. Much the same will happen to ABBA and its fans in the next 10 years. That's why the precept to live in the now as much as one can makes a lot of sense to me. So right now I choose to appreciate the almost unbelievable gift that is the Voyage album, and ignore the negative baggage that others are trying to hang on it to pull it down - before they've even heard it! Perhaps such people have made up their minds, right from the start, not to like it, no matter what. A strange mindset, if true.
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Post by Michel on Nov 1, 2021 13:18:39 GMT
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Post by Liebezeit on Nov 1, 2021 13:39:09 GMT
'Voyage' is the first ABBA album I'm waiting for because back when the others were to come I wasn't even born, lol) Happy anticipation week everyone! And right back at you, happy anticipation week. I'm glad there are some younger generations among us that are waiting (I'm a Zoomer, LMAO) as well, not just the older generations who saw it all. I've never considered hyping new music except for restorations and reissues (only been used to new movies), but Voyage is the first time I would see a properly new ABBA release 'in real time' as one member would put. I have to admit I was a bit furious with how ABBA handled their marketing campaign from Gold to social media (this week, we'll look at The Day Before You Came...) and then to Voyage, that I didn't bother checking up the forum for a year - but then it took me a while to figure out that they were seamlessly transitioning into the newer era, one by one. Whatever the outcome of success, I'll be glad that they have not lost their aura.
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Post by ahmad on Nov 1, 2021 15:11:57 GMT
Well, this is only my second post but we’re on the verge of a historic event this Friday and I am as excited as I was back in 1981 when ’The Visitors’ was released and I was 21 years old. We have been conditioned for 39 years that Abba would never release any new music and never reform and we all accepted that. Then a miracle happened. I will never again believe that never means never! Let’s not forget all the millions of people around the world too who have passed away in the past 39 years and will never hear what we are privileged to hear this Friday, including some of my personal Abba friends that I had back in the 1970’s here in London who are no longer with me.
Mozart is as popular today as he was 400 years ago and I believe in 400 years time Abba and the Beatles will still be remembered and listened to. The reason being that their music is timeless and touches the soul like very few other musicians of this era does. I love both Adele and Ed Sheeran but Adele has to seriously start changing her musical style if she wants to be remembered in 40 years time, otherwise they’d be mass suicides if this melancholy, depressive-ridden theme continues for the next 40 years. I love her voice and saw her at the O2 Arena a few years ago. Ed’s music is brilliant but it is very time specific and will be easily dated in 10 years time. Calvin Harris music is already dated in my view. Abba, however, are in a league of their own and transcends time, style and fashion and that’s why I feel they will be listened to in hundreds of years time.
Regarding the epic battle ahead, Abba are pitted against the two most popular musicians in the world in the next few weeks. I feel the only serious chance they have of reaching No. 1 is in the very first week of release due to the exceptional competition. Somehow I feel they will make it. Ed’s fanbase is much narrower than Abba’s, appealing to a more limited age range whereas everyone from 5 - 100 listens to Abba and their target audience is wider. However, what matters is sales and/or streaming from what I understand. I still feel they are popular enough to override Ed’s second week’s sales although this depends, in part, on how big a first week sales he generates - and it will be massive.
Each Abba album is a work of art, an event of importance. I remember how joyous every album was on its release and the critical reviews in the media. This one will be too. Maybe it is Abba’s parting gift to us but never say never in this world.
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Post by Michal on Nov 1, 2021 16:14:01 GMT
...I think Universal should have kept their eye on the competition too and delayed the release to February of next year to avoid Adel and Ed hogging the limelight. Having waited 40 years another few month would not have mattered too much... So would you prefer if they announced now that the album release is postponed until February? I guess not I'd rather have No.2 album now than No.1 album in February...
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Post by scaramouche on Nov 1, 2021 16:38:23 GMT
Regardless of the chart position, now is the best time to release to get those Christmas gifting sales.
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Post by Michal on Nov 1, 2021 16:39:09 GMT
I've just received an e-mail encouraging me to join ABBA Fan Group on Facebook, claiming "something exciting will be happening in the group today, Nov 1". I'm not on Facebook. Does anybody know, what's happening?
By the way, for me Voyage is also the first ABBA album I can experience in "real time", as I was born in 1981. However, I experienced some exciting anticipation of a few albums as I fell in love with ABBA in my teens, when I lived of pocket money and couldn't afford buying all of their albums at once. So I persuaded my parents to buy them for my birthdays and Christmas and so on, so I always had to wait for another present to hear another ABBA album. Those are quite fond memories actually. Also some of the albums were quite tricky to find in a small Czech town in the 90s, so it was a real quest to get them all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 17:28:37 GMT
Gamleman
You are right about focussing on charts. If ABBA didn't have such a stunning chart history we wouldn't be as interested.
I am not so concerned with chart placings of other artists I like.
That said, Mid Week's just out. Ed Sheeran only on 84k. I know it's only Friday to Sunday sales. But I am confident ABBA will outsell him and land that 10th No. 1 album in the UK. They will easily sell 150k.
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 1, 2021 17:32:44 GMT
Ditto..curious....
"I've just received an e-mail encouraging me to join ABBA Fan Group on Facebook, claiming "something exciting will be happening in the group today, Nov 1". I'm not on Facebook. Does anybody know, what's happening?"
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Post by JeniLP on Nov 1, 2021 18:03:01 GMT
I've just received an e-mail encouraging me to join ABBA Fan Group on Facebook, claiming "something exciting will be happening in the group today, Nov 1". I'm not on Facebook. Does anybody know, what's happening? I'm not on Facebook either, but one Instagram fan account reports that it is all about posting reactions while listening to the album.
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Post by gamleman on Nov 1, 2021 18:03:22 GMT
This is what I got on Facebook from the ABBA account...
"There's something going on in the Official ABBA Fan Group on FB. To celebrate the arrival of 'Voyage' it’s time for you to show your reaction when hearing the album for the first time".
Anyway, I've joined the fan group and will see what happens, but it sounds like just a mechanism for fan reactions to the album.
Michal, I'm interested as to where the copies of ABBA records came from in the Czech Republic. Did the country press its own copies or import them from elsewhere? A lot of the vinyl we get nowadays is pressed in the Czech Replublic, as there is a major pressing plant there.
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Post by chron on Nov 1, 2021 18:18:27 GMT
As I probably said before ABBA have such an immensely varied back catalogue of songs. Each song is uniquely different. Varied yes, but I'd put a question mark over "immensely", and "uniquely different' is hyperbole. B&B have always worked as pop 'craftsmen', squarely using means already formed, tried and tested, and have looked to create a fresh-feeling synthesis, which they're still doing, as evidenced by the fact that some in here have been playing the "spot the influences/(self)references" with these new tracks (Just A Notion pretty squarely recycles the boogie feel earlier given a spin-out on things like So Long and Why Did It Have To Be Me; DSMD carries echoes of One Of Us, while its lyrics hark back to the scene-setting fussiness of The Day Before You Came; ISHFIY's dignified, bittersweet sweep recalls the mood of 'deep' reflective tracks like My Love, My Life, One Man, One Woman and I Wonder). ABBA are—to use a line of that great philosopher Father Ted—a great bunch of lads, but they've never been in the business of producing "uniquely different" songs.
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Post by Michal on Nov 1, 2021 18:32:54 GMT
Michal, I'm interested as to where the copies of ABBA records came from in the Czech Republic. Did the country press its own copies or import them from elsewhere? A lot of the vinyl we get nowadays is pressed in the Czech Replublic, as there is a major pressing plant there. Back in the 70s and 80s the original studio albums were licensed to Supraphon (the only label active here during the communist era, 100% state-controlled) and pressed here. Sometimes the covers were unique (e.g. the back cover of The Album features a small photo of ABBA as seen on the Take A Chance On Me single cover) and the inner sleeves featured Czech liner notes by a musical "expert". No singles were released here. In the 90s vinyls were out of fashion and I used to buy cassettes, usually made in the Netherlands.
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Post by madonnabba on Nov 1, 2021 18:34:27 GMT
I am of course looking forward to Friday. And the date cannot be changed. Suspect picked to capture the Christmas sales and showcase their first Christmas themed song. Had it been released in January could have been the number one album of 2022. Abba have been chart champs in the UK in 3 years ...number one album for the year in the UK 1976 Greatest Hits, 1977 Arrival and 1980 Super Trouper. Missed out in 1978 because of Saturday night fever and Grease ..Two soundtracks. But number 3. So biggest selling album by a single artist in 1978.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 18:39:39 GMT
I disagree with you, Chronington. All of ABBA's songs are different. OK, I may have stressed the emphasis on immensely and uniquely a little too deeply only because of my admiration and love for the group. ABBA are back with a new album and let's be grateful for new music from our favourite band. It really doesn't matter what songs are on the album. All of them will be brilliant. I have every faith.
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Post by chron on Nov 1, 2021 19:08:09 GMT
There'll be some good stuff on there almost certainly, but it's a big ask that all of the tracks be brilliant (after all, out of three songs so far released, we've had one thoroughly heartening return to near-top form, one enjoyable but lightweight glam-boogie pop-rocker, and one curate's egg on the over-cooked side, which features a lot of windy lines that don't ultimately add up to much (Bjorn, mate, we don't need to know what material a bench is made out of; just get on with it!).
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Post by bennybjorn on Nov 1, 2021 20:21:50 GMT
As I probably said before ABBA have such an immensely varied back catalogue of songs. Each song is uniquely different. Varied yes, but I'd put a question mark over "immensely", and "uniquely different' is hyperbole. B&B have always worked as pop 'craftsmen', squarely using means already formed, tried and tested, and have looked to create a fresh-feeling synthesis, which they're still doing, as evidenced by the fact that some in here have been playing the "spot the influences/(self)references" with these new tracks (Just A Notion pretty squarely recycles the boogie feel earlier given a spin-out on things like So Long and Why Did It Have To Be Me; DSMD carries echoes of One Of Us, while its lyrics hark back to the scene-setting fussiness of The Day Before You Came; ISHFIY's dignified, bittersweet sweep recalls the mood of 'deep' reflective tracks like My Love, My Life, One Man, One Woman and I Wonder). ABBA are—to use a line of that great philosopher Father Ted—a great bunch of lads, but they've never been in the business of producing "uniquely different" songs. Nice analysis Chronington. Are you a music journalist? If you're not, you should be!
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Post by gamleman on Nov 1, 2021 20:22:50 GMT
Well, that 'something exciting' on the ABBA Facebook Fan Page turns out to be them wanting people to film their reactions to the new album as they are listening to it for the first time. Who would want to be bothered with filming themselves and giving a running commentary in the middle of something they've been waiting 40 years to experience? Not me, that's for sure, apart from the fact that I would never film myself, let alone submit the video to the Internet.
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Post by daronjulian on Nov 1, 2021 20:24:01 GMT
I will be getting my copy of Voyage on Wednesday afternoon. I have ordered the standard cd version from this particular record/cd store.
As it will be released official on Friday, a lot of record dealers will be receiving their orders from Universal either tomorrow or Wednesday.
Roll on Wednesday, not long to wait now...
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Post by daronjulian on Nov 1, 2021 20:28:57 GMT
Does anybody out there know either of these two things.
Little things is going to be a Christmas single release, but when will they release it? One week before Christmas maybe?
Happy New Year coloured vinyl 7", I haven't heard anything at all about this release this time around. It was due to be issued every Christmas on different coloured vinyl, but everything has gone quiet over this realease.
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Post by madonnabba on Nov 1, 2021 20:49:40 GMT
Just saw Voyage being advertised on ITV during Corrie...prime time advertising spot. Can you pick up preordered copies from store before Friday? I was told to collect from Friday on.
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Post by scaramouche on Nov 1, 2021 21:13:12 GMT
Just saw Voyage being advertised on ITV during Corrie...prime time advertising spot. Can you pick up preordered copies from store before Friday? I was told to collect from Friday on. I wondered if they would do tv ads. Did it just show the avatars spinning and play snippets of DSMD and ISHFIY like the online teasers we are used to?
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Post by madonnabba on Nov 1, 2021 21:28:41 GMT
Yeah. Played DSMD and JAN and avatars clip from ISHFOY.
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