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Post by ahmad on Nov 11, 2021 12:53:00 GMT
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Post by sikejsudjek on Nov 11, 2021 13:07:23 GMT
I can see why Benny isn't that enthusiastic about committing to embarking on another album - remember its a huge commitment. ABBA don't just chuck a few songs together, they used to spend a full month writing to get about 3 minutes of decent material, binning the rest. However at their age it makes more sense to leave the door open to doing a couple of tracks or so a year, and pacing themselves. Eventually that might build to another album but puts no one under any pressure. It also provides the opportunity to put new songs into the Voyage performances giving them a new boost at some point in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 17:11:33 GMT
Angela, I'm glad you have a copy of " Voyage ". I agree with you it is an outstanding album. I find the more you listen to the songs the more they grow on you. ABBA have picked up from where they left off. Johnny, WIKTT is one of my favourite songs from " Arrival ". It is a pop gem with a very catchy chorus and melody. Alib, You are spot on with your post about ABBA experimenting with diverse styles, cultures, trends etc. That is the reason for their enduring appeal. They are nothing short of pop perfectionists. Compiling a top twenty/top ten list is going to be very hard with the calibre of the new songs and the iconic hits of yester-year. Adam, I recently discovered " Dream World " and absolutely love it.
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Post by Michal on Nov 11, 2021 19:17:56 GMT
I received my orange LP from the French Amazon. It looks stunning, however I received a faulty pressing with the vinyl bulged up around the central hole (I'm not even sure it is directly in the centre) and it caused a damage to the inner sleeve (almost puncturing it) It seems this album is cursed...
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Post by swededreamz on Nov 11, 2021 19:48:27 GMT
The brilliance of Abba is that different songs open up in different ways at different times.
I Can Be That Woman
On first few hearings it just washed over me.
But now, what a song.
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Post by bennybjorn on Nov 11, 2021 22:03:15 GMT
So it looks like Voyage will sell around 200,000 in the UK in week 1. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to its sales in week 2? I'm going for 30,000! (could still be enough for a second week at #1).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 23:24:01 GMT
Hi Bennybjorn, I will speculate at 50,000 copies sold in week 2 but the number could be higher as it is such an exceptional album. What about the sales of ABBA Gold ?
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Post by steverw on Nov 11, 2021 23:29:07 GMT
Hi Bennybjorn, I will speculate at 50,000 copies sold in week 2 but the number could be higher as it is such an exceptional album. What about the sales of ABBA Gold ? I'm also going to speculate/predict that Adele will knock ABBA off the top spot where she will be number 1 for three weeks but ABBA will regain number 1 spot in time for Christmas due to increased sales for Christmas gifts. (Maybe I'm just dreaming - but I suspect ABBA will make a more appealing gift than Adele).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 23:50:49 GMT
Definitely as ABBA are invincible.
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Post by Alan on Nov 12, 2021 0:10:03 GMT
This part of the interview was, for some reason, not included in the live broadcast on Thursday:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 8:04:25 GMT
Thanks Alan, I look forward to listening to Frida's interview.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 8:10:16 GMT
So it looks like Voyage will sell around 200,000 in the UK in week 1. Anyone want to hazard a guess as to its sales in week 2? I'm going for 30,000! (could still be enough for a second week at #1). I will predict this too and yes could be enough for 2nd week at #1. Sales will drop further until a revival in Christmas. Chart stats coming in today... Voyage is #1 in Australia www.aria.com.au/charts/albums-chart/2021-11-15Their last studio album, The Visitors failed to make the Top 20.
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Post by JeniLP on Nov 12, 2021 8:56:32 GMT
...but I suspect ABBA will make a more appealing gift than Adele). Well, unless one would want to immerse the addressee into depression))
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Post by HOMETIME on Nov 12, 2021 9:56:53 GMT
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Post by Alan on Nov 12, 2021 10:22:51 GMT
Good article. Slight bending of the facts (Voulez-Vous and - in most countries - The Album weren’t released in November) but on the whole fairly accurate.
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Post by johnb on Nov 12, 2021 10:47:50 GMT
Not sure it was intended to be accurate. More of a light-hearted comment piece. Not sure when the author was expressing his own opinions and when he was stating perceived opinions of the masses(or critics).
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Post by ahmad on Nov 12, 2021 10:59:53 GMT
Wow, Abba at No.1 in Australia with Voyage. How amazing is that! This is a historic achievement. They have not had a no. 1 album in Australia since Arrival! Younger fans may not be aware but at one time Abba dominated Australia. They permeated every aspect of the media and became an integral part of Australian society. They saturated the culture and music of Australia. Then a backlash started. It was a bloodbath and they were vilified by the media, turned against by the general public and lost all popularity except from their diehard fans. It was a very sad experience to witness from the other side of the world in Europe. My Abba friends wrote and told me about it. Letters took 7 - 10 days to arrive then, no instant media like today. So the fact Voyage is No 1 in Australia today is a really significant and historic achievement for Abba.
I was in Sainsbury yesterday in Ladbrook Grove in London. I was pleased to see Abba’s CD prominently displayed as you entered the store. The dreaded Ed Sheeran CD was next to it too and Abba was £11, Ed £10. Sainsbury only ever sells CD’s in exceptional circumstances and for exceptional artists. No doubt Adele will join them in the display stand next week. Someone picked up the Abba CD as I was observing this pleasant sight. He just looked at it and put it in his trolley. I felt like going up to him and saying, “Well, done, mate!”
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Post by richard on Nov 12, 2021 11:29:32 GMT
Frida's interview with Zoe Ball on BBC Radio 2 was just fabulous. She is so warm so articulate and chatty, so utterly adorable. Hearing her talk about her bond with Agnetha, praising her storytelling singing and referring to her as her little sister... it was quite emotional. And she seems so unaffected and normal. If only this had been a video interview! Her "never say never" to new music was very telling. It felt like she was dropping a heavy hint, to be honest. And if Benny has already said much the same thing...? Have we entered a parallel universe I feel the same. I maintained a hope, sometimes wavering, that there could be an album, not just the ISHFIY and DSMD songs. And now I have a little expectation that there might be one more album. After all, isn't that what musicians want to do - make music? That is, provided they have the health, energy, creativity and ambition. ABBA can only feel encouraged by the generally enthusiastic reaction to Voyage. Other than that, a new song with the vocal layout of I Know Him So Well, written for Agnetha and Frida - that's what I'd like to hear before they finally call it a day.
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Post by bennybjorn on Nov 12, 2021 11:40:03 GMT
Hi Bennybjorn, I will speculate at 50,000 copies sold in week 2 but the number could be higher as it is such an exceptional album. What about the sales of ABBA Gold ? Liking the optimism there, Eddie, but I fear even my 30,000 may not be attained! However, I do think the album will fare well over Christmas, easily reaching platinum status in the UK (300,000) and well past a million worldwide. I think for vast numbers of people (most under 50s) it may well be only the second Abba album they've ever had after Gold, and it may just feel like a logical follow-on to that in a sense with strong sales throughout the months ahead. Time will tell!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 11:47:59 GMT
Because it has done so well this week - about 200k, it will be hard to see how it can get to 50k next week.
Platinum status 300,000 by the end of the year.
Voyage's sales aren't going to be on the same scale as previous studio albums from Arrival down to The Visitors.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 11:49:00 GMT
I agree with your post, Swededreamz. The album is JUST NOT GOOD BUT OUTSTANDING. All the songs stand out. I am hooked on ICBTW ( Agnetha at her very best ) and BB ( a very moving performance from Frida. The vocals and harmonies are beyond words. The emotional impact these songs deliver are so powerful. After listening, they leave you teary-eyed. WYDWM is another that leaves me totally spellbound so joyous and uplifting ( makes me want to dance a merry little jig especially after a " wee dram " of whisky ). JAN and DSMD are pop classics and ISHFIY so beautifully poignant and emotive. KAEOD and NDAI are infectious and hum in my head constantly. OTF is a rousing and haunting slice of melodrama and I am drawn to the lovely vocals on LT. So innocent yet charming. What an incredible album. Beyond my wildest hopes and expectations.
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Post by jj on Nov 12, 2021 12:10:31 GMT
Abba dominated Australia [...] Then a backlash started. It was a bloodbath and they were vilified by the media, turned against by the general public and lost all popularity except from their diehard fans. They went from "musical gods" to "quite a successful, popular group". They still managed to produce three top 5 albums in Australia after 1976, and a few top 10 singles, too, including a #4 hit in 1979 with "Chiquitita" and more top ten hits in 1979, 1980 and early 1981.
It can be said that this was nothing compared to their unbelievably massive 1975/76 chart feats, but they were still popular enough to reach the top 10 and top 5 in Australia numerous times after 1976 with both their singles and albums. They were still quite popular sales-wise in Australia until early 1981.
In the UK, ABBA managed to stay popular just 12 months longer, before their success - in the singles chart, at least - petered out in early 1982.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 12:16:21 GMT
Has anyone seen Voyage being sold in their local supermarket? I haven't
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Post by bennybjorn on Nov 12, 2021 12:32:51 GMT
Has anyone seen Voyage being sold in their local supermarket? I haven't I picked up mine in my local Morrisson's if that counts?
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Post by Alan on Nov 12, 2021 12:36:39 GMT
I was in HMV in Derby today (actually my local one). Again, just the plastic box CD and deluxe CD box. They still had the yellow vinyl, and also the standard black vinyl (actually the first time I’ve seen it). Anyone with either the soft pack standard artwork or the alternative artwork CD definitely appears to have a rarity. HMV’s website no longer has these either. Adele’s album will similarly be released in an alternative artwork CD and a clear vinyl, again both exclusive to HMV. Regarding Australia, as jj pointed out, it’s not true to say that they were suddenly rejected there. It started with Knowing Me, Knowing You “only” reaching number 9, but after that they remained consistent there, with top 5 albums and one (or often two) top 10 hits from each album. It was only The Visitors where it unravelled,but they were only slightly ahead of the UK and some other countries there. Gold was a number one album there (though it’s correct that Arrival was their last number one studio album).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 12:47:16 GMT
Alan, thanks very much for posting the interview with Frida on Radio 2. What a lovely and gracious lady and such an interesting interview. Zoe Ball did a great job. How I would love an additional English interview with Agnetha. I did listen to her interview on Swedish radio recently and also found her very relaxed, lovely and charming. Maybe I am asking for too much and let's be grateful for the new ABBA album and the band's comeback.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 13:33:31 GMT
Here is a fuller interview with Frida
Alan - I have the HMV alternative artwork CD. I only ordered it about a week before release and got it on day of release.
Bennybjorn - I have read comments online about people buying Voyage in Morrison's but not the other supermarkets.
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Post by thetowerbridgefox on Nov 12, 2021 13:40:03 GMT
Very nice interview, let the music speak one of my favorite ABBA songs and the Bumble Bee sounded fantastic!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 14:12:47 GMT
ABBA returning to the top of the Australian album charts with Voyage is both a time for celebration and also time to correct the constant misinformation regarding the post-77 tour "bloodbath" as mentioned by ahmad in a recent post. The topic does appear quite often on this forum and from someone who lived through ABBA mania and its aftermath I feel it necessary to set the record straight.
Unless one was living in Australia during the height of ABBA's popularity from 1975 to 1977 it would be difficult to comprehend just how much they dominated popular culture here at that time. It was impossible to turn on a television or radio or flip through newspapers and magazines without being bombarded by ABBA. For those who loved them it was heaven and we could never imagine that degree of frenzied admiration would ever subside. But after several months of silence following the tour the inevitable happened; a significant amount of the Australian public turned their attention elsewhere: Star Wars and disco became the new obsessions and Kiss were soon to (briefly) captivate the teen market. On a side note, I've often wondered whether German fans have had to endure similar hyperbole regarding The Name of The Game 'only' reaching number 7 in the charts after six consecutive number one singles.
But the hits continued. While ABBA no longer flooded the Australian charts with multiple simultaneous Top 10 entries they were arguably the most consistently successful act here during the four years following the 1977 tour, with six singles reaching the top 10, another two singles in the top 20 and three top 5 albums. ABBA's popularity also varied somewhat from state to state: e.g. Chiquitita peaked at 4 nationally but hit number 1 in my state of South Australia, while in the state of Victoria it reached number 7. I'm also proud to say the Voulez-Vous album was the seventh biggest selling album in South Australia in 1979.
So, the notion of the entire country turning its back on ABBA with the exception of a small group of die-hard fans is an over-exaggeration. ABBA were still popular but not at the insane level of the ABBA mania era. And let's face it, you can't reach number 4 on the charts (as ABBA The Album did) if the entire nation is against you. It was only during 1982 that Australia (like many parts of the world) finally decided to move on. Even then, the minimal chart success for The Visitors came down mostly to a lack of publicity and being lost amongst the rush of Christmas releases.
But anyway, congratulations to ABBA for their fifth number one album in Australia. Many of us never stopped loving them and never will.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 14:26:01 GMT
So far today ABBA are #1 with Voyage in
Australia Sweden Netherlands Norway France!! Ireland Germany...with a reported 200,000 sales!!!
UK 204,000 sales
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