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Post by gamleman on Nov 14, 2021 12:51:24 GMT
I watched ABBA in Switzerland and couldn't stop laughing at Benny bouncing up and down by his piano. Bless him, he was having a whale of a time. It struck me once again how stunning "the girls" were at that time- so beautiful. I wish they'd performed live but I guess miming/lip sync was the norm then- even Kate Bush and Roxy Music did so. Actually, not sure about Roxy...I'd have to watch again. I wonder if ABBA and Kate Bush got together and had a chat? No pictures of them together....zilch. Shame, as she's top of my pops after ABBA. I didn't bother watching the other shows as I was out and I already have them anyway. No doubt about it though, these shows will promote sales of Voyage (and even GOLD). I recorded "ABBA in Switzerland" but haven't watched it yet. I have it on the "Voulez-vous" Deluxe CD/DVD but I think this is the first time it has been re-broadcast with guests, and I too am a fan of Kate Bush. Of course, some extracts from it were also shown on "ABBA at the BBC" earlier in the evening. This made me wonder why they haven't released the early versions of "Does Your Mother Know" and "Kisses Of Fire" from this show as well the early version of "If It Wasn't For The Nights" on a rarities album or as bonus tracks. I wish they would re-broadcast "Made in Sweden - For Export". |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 13:03:48 GMT
Richard, I unfortunately was stung by a bumblebee on my leg whilst lying on the grass when I was a child but I hold no ill feelings towards them as I love watching them fly in and out of different flowers in the garden. Ooh I have been listening to BB so many times. What a beautiful song ! Another that touches my heart is ICBTW. Another belter of a track. The harmonies in both songs are heavenly and so ABBA. WYDWM is yet another because it is so joyous and uplifting the opposite to the two former songs.
Joseph, I giggled to myself too when I saw Benny bouncing up and down. Agnetha and Frida were stunning. I can vividly remember watching " ABBA In Switzerland " at my grandmother's house back in 1979. We don't have entertainment shows of that calibre now which is sad. Also, I have fond memories of " ABBA - Words And Music " a year later at my aunt's house. Great memories of ABBA in their glory days.
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Post by JeniLP on Nov 14, 2021 13:20:12 GMT
richard , you can even stroke a bumblebee. I've not tried it myself, but watched a friend do it. My mom says she was even catching bumblebees in her childhood and listening to their humming between her palms. They never did any harm. The song is pure perfection, it has grown on me immensely. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 13:39:19 GMT
They are so adorable and a pleasure to watch. One of life's simple pleasures. We live in hope that their numbers will multiply. Some species of butterfly are also on the decline. I think it is due to climate change. I can't imagine a world without bees or butterflies. Just unthinkable.
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Post by gamleman on Nov 14, 2021 15:15:51 GMT
I know some people here are not keen on Ed Sheeran (I think his music is great) but here is a clip of Ed talking to Benny... fb.watch/9gU96EOPKc/I'm not sure whether this is viewable outside of Facebook. |
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Post by madonnabba on Nov 14, 2021 16:02:47 GMT
They are fabulous creatures. I have made sure the garden has plenty of plants that would interest them and other insects. They will only sting in self defence and wont attack you. As for Abba in Switzerland ir was shown before video recorders, I tried to record the audio using an audio cassette recorder and microphone. We all had to keep quiet. It was great until my sister barged into the room and started talking. She stopped when she caught my glare and shaking head. On play back you heard it all including my sister barging in to the room. The good old days.
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Post by madonnabba on Nov 14, 2021 16:27:49 GMT
I actually like Ed's music. Find his songs simple but catchy. Not keen on Adele though. Like her personality but not her songs. They kind of suck the life out of me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 16:45:50 GMT
I must admit I do like some of Ed's and Adele's songs but both their musical output isn't as diverse as ABBA's.
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Post by Michal on Nov 14, 2021 18:18:51 GMT
I've just received an e-mail from a friend that Keep An Eye On Dan is going to be the next single. If true, I wonder how well it can do, considering its current position.
In my opinion it is an excellent song, unusual for ABBA, yet with all crucial ABBA elements, including Björn and Benny's backing vocals. However, if not helped by an interesting B-side, I'm afraid it has no chance. Maybe the time for Just Like That has finally come? :-) (I can dream, can't I?)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 18:29:25 GMT
Thanks for this interesting snippet of news, Michal. I agree KAEOD is a great song with elements of " SOS " throughout. We can but dream indeed.
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Post by steverw on Nov 14, 2021 18:29:58 GMT
I've just received an e-mail from a friend that Keep An Eye On Dan is going to be the next single. If true, I wonder how well it can do, considering its current position. In my opinion it is an excellent song, unusual for ABBA, yet with all crucial ABBA elements, including Björn and Benny's backing vocals. However, if not helped by an interesting B-side, I'm afraid it has no chance. Maybe the time for Just Like That has finally come? :-) (I can dream, can't I?) Without being dismissive of your claims, ABBA don't generally leak information to people about what they plan to release. I would think whatever the choice of fourth single, Little Things will be alongside it as a double A-Side. |
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Post by HOMETIME on Nov 14, 2021 18:48:31 GMT
Hmm. I'm one of the few who hasn't connected with KAEOD. A purely personal view, but I find the chorus weak and lyrically clunky. But it's the view of the wider public that will matter, not mine. If it's pushed as a single, I hope it's a hit and elevates the profile of the album.
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Post by gerard on Nov 14, 2021 19:12:02 GMT
Hmm. I'm one of the few who hasn't connected with KAEOD. A purely personal view, but I find the chorus weak and lyrically clunky. But it's the view of the wider public that will matter, not mine. If it's pushed as a single, I hope it's a hit and elevates the profile of the album. KAEOD doesn't connect with me either. I think the lyrics are awkward and contrived, and the synth sound is incredibly dated. It also seems to be one of the least streamed or played tracks on the various platforms so surely ABBA's PR team can see that it would not be a wise choice? WYDWM seems much more popular and has already charted unofficially. It also has a wonderful festive vibe which would do well in the run-up to Christmas. |
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Post by Michal on Nov 14, 2021 19:29:51 GMT
I've just received an e-mail from a friend that Keep An Eye On Dan is going to be the next single. If true, I wonder how well it can do, considering its current position. In my opinion it is an excellent song, unusual for ABBA, yet with all crucial ABBA elements, including Björn and Benny's backing vocals. However, if not helped by an interesting B-side, I'm afraid it has no chance. Maybe the time for Just Like That has finally come? :-) (I can dream, can't I?) Without being dismissive of your claims, ABBA don't generally leak information to people about what they plan to release. I would think whatever the choice of fourth single, Little Things will be alongside it as a double A-Side. It's not a claim. It's just a rumour  |
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Post by johnb on Nov 14, 2021 19:37:15 GMT
I regret to say I am another naysayer with regard to KAEOD . Not keen on the subject matter. The lyrics are "awkward" (for want of a better word) and I don't like the playground chant feel to the refrain: "I'll be back at seven on Sunday to get him". (na na nana naaa na na naa na) - also reflected by the synth. It's a shame because it has a very promising start where it sounds like it could be a James Bond theme or something of that nature.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 19:54:32 GMT
I like Keep an Eye on Dan.
I would prefer an untempo song as a single. Maybe No Doubt About It could be a contender.
When You Danced With Me could be a single too.
SteveW - ABBA may not personally leak information or allow others too. But there will be others leaking.
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Post by JeniLP on Nov 14, 2021 20:01:18 GMT
I've just received an e-mail from a friend that Keep An Eye On Dan is going to be the next single. If true, I wonder how well it can do, considering its current position. In my opinion it is an excellent song, unusual for ABBA, yet with all crucial ABBA elements, including Björn and Benny's backing vocals. However, if not helped by an interesting B-side, I'm afraid it has no chance. Maybe the time for Just Like That has finally come? :-) (I can dream, can't I?) Listening to KAEOD for the last few days I thought of it as a 'buddy' to KMKY not in a purely musial, but somewhat spiritual matter. And also I remembered LAYLOM and its history as a late single. Oh, JLT, fingers crossed. A purely personal view, but I find the chorus weak and lyrically clunky. At first I thought practically the same, but this impression has quickly dissipated. KAEOD doesn't connect with me either. I think the lyrics are awkward and contrived, and the synth sound is incredibly dated. It also seems to be one of the least streamed or played tracks on the various platforms I suppose we don't have enough info on the most/least streamed/viewed/preferred song as we can't collect all the necessary data including references, like-to-dislike ratio and so on. Also, it can be important to know which song is the most remixed one. As to the dated sound, well, it is something that makes things even better for me. I'm so tired of 'modern' sound around and don't know where to hide from it, so it really looks like a breath of fresh air, no matter how ridiculous it may seem)) So I think KAEOD has certain potential as a single. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 20:21:57 GMT
Does anybody know what songs were written/recorded in 2019 and which were this year?
We know Ode to Freedom was this year as Agnetha had a covid mask in one of the photos. So not 2019 then.
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Post by gamleman on Nov 14, 2021 20:29:48 GMT
I am a fan of KAEOD and was surprised that it was the lowest charter in the UK Downloads and Total Sales charts. However, I don't really see it as an official single, especially before Christmas, as it is rather bleak lyrically.
The two tracks on the album that I find too short are WYDWM and DSMD. I think it would be nice if at some point they would release a special 12-inch single, CD-single and digital-EP of extended versions of these two songs (as a pair). Perhaps for Record Store Day 2022?
As for leaks, I'm really surprised there weren't more leaks about the announcement of the album and subsequently its contents. There must have been lots of people 'in the know' about it - employees at the record company, pressing plants and retailers. In the age of social media, I don't know how they managed to keep it all so quiet.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 20:55:31 GMT
Not sure KAEOD is single material, especially so close to Christmas, and although I am not a fan of Christmas songs, LT with Happy New Year on the b side would be nice to have in my collection! (LT is still the only song I really haven't played very much but I am hoping to connect with it nearer Christmas)!
Great idea Gamleman on extended WYDWM and DSMD, I'd buy them in a heartbeat!
Watched ABBA in Switzerland, great memories! What were they thinking not releasing KOF as a single?! One of my favourites! Agnetha and Frida were mesmerising!
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Post by sikejsudjek on Nov 14, 2021 21:07:39 GMT
WYDWM is a much better song to be released as a single, although it would be nice if they did a longer version as well. I was surprised they didn't stick some sort of solo bridge section in it as they did with Eagle.
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Post by Alan on Nov 14, 2021 21:29:36 GMT
Update on the mythical “fold-out” vinyl sleeve edition… It would appear it doesn’t exist. My friend received theirs today and was disappointed that it was just the standard black vinyl in a normal sleeve (same barcode). Someone on here definitely mentioned it as well, so it seems some incorrect info is being put out somewhere. I’m slightly envious of you, HOMETIME (and anyone else that’s got it) regarding the orange vinyl. It appears Amazon really have sold out now, so after many times of resisting it, I’ve now left it too late! However, I did get the blue vinyl from an independent record shop in Nottingham today (Rough Trade). They had quite a few. They also had the soft pack standard artwork CD that seems to have vanished from HMV. I’m very pleased with the blue, and once again it’s nice to be able to buy from a shop and support a local(ish) independent. The independent shop in Derby didn’t stock it due to “not enough profit margins” but recommended the Nottingham shop to me. |
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Post by gamleman on Nov 14, 2021 21:37:51 GMT
I see that Amazon UK are now offering the blue vinyl (currently at £35.70) and say it will be 'released' on 26th November. Perhaps they pressed more copies of the blue vinyl than can be sold in the independent shops.
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Post by Alan on Nov 14, 2021 22:09:26 GMT
Without being dismissive of your claims, ABBA don't generally leak information to people about what they plan to release. I would think whatever the choice of fourth single, Little Things will be alongside it as a double A-Side. It would have been long-since passed to Universal so no longer up to ABBA. We’ve seen that people in the music industry (on PopJustice) have such info before everyone else (though no one has mentioned this yet). It’s not like the old days when Polar was an independent company. I have to agree with many on here and say it’s not the best choice if it’s true. Great verses but chorus not so good. It’s odd, but until Frida mentioned to Zoe Ball about Agnetha being a good storyteller, I hadn’t really noticed or thought about it. Now though, it’s obvious with all three of her leads. Thanks Frida! |
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Post by gerard on Nov 14, 2021 22:09:59 GMT
WYDWM is a much better song to be released as a single, although it would be nice if they did a longer version as well. I was surprised they didn't stick some sort of solo bridge section in it as they did with Eagle. I fully agree. WYDWM just seems rushed, as if no real thought went into the arrangement. 'The Piper', which has a similar vibe, has so much more layering to it, and this song could have benefitted from some similar loving care. It's a shame, 'cos it really seems to be striking a chord with people all over the world. It's got great hit potential. |
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Post by joseph on Nov 14, 2021 22:23:20 GMT
Phew! I was hesitant to air my views about KAEOD. Don't get me wrong, I like it, that intro really grabs me and I like the synths a lot and Agnetha is in wonderful story-telling mode. Then the chorus. Something is a bit 'off'. I can't quite put my finger on it. I feel bad for even typing this! What do I know, after all? I suppose it's possible I'll grow to truly love it in time. WYDWM is another one. It IS great, but I'd like it to be just a little longer and for the tempo to have increased a tad.
Perhaps I'm just greedy. I am more than happy with Voyage. It's more than I dreamt possible and of course I'm still to become fully acquainted with the songs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 22:34:49 GMT
Well, Dan seems to be dividing people on here.
What about No Doubt About It as a single?
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Post by madonnabba on Nov 14, 2021 22:50:19 GMT
I think there is a lot more going on in the background of KAEOD than WYDWM. NDAI reminds me of Kirsty McColl's music. Think 'I could be that woman' could be big on the country chart. Love all the bendy sounds going on in Dan.
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Post by Alan on Nov 14, 2021 23:04:36 GMT
What about No Doubt About It as a single? Someone (I think it was HOMETIME) mentioned that this sounds like it could have been on Frida’s Shine album as a second Björn and Benny composition. The review on Super Deluxe Edition sticks in my mind: “ ‘No Doubt About It’ doesn’t put a foot wrong although it’s hard not to notice that the woman is taking the blame again [Cf. ‘I Can Be That Woman’] (“Björn, take a seat on the psychologist’s couch…”).” |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 23:16:11 GMT
Overall, the song gets a positive review Good though ‘Bumblebee’ is, ‘No Doubt About It’ is some welcome biscuits and cheese after the sweetness of the song it follows. This is a rollicking, fast-paced number with handclaps, pumping bass and a strident vocal delivery and melody. ‘No Doubt About It’ is very hooky and starts with the strong and memorable chorus line (“I messed it up, alright / And there’s no doubt about it”) before going into the equally good verse and brilliant pre-chorus break (“Well, then why, do I let it upset me..”). ‘No Doubt About It’ doesn’t put a foot wrong although it’s hard not to notice that the woman is taking the blame again (“Björn, take a seat on the psychologist’s couch…”). No matter, a brilliant pop song. 4/5 superdeluxeedition.com/reviews/abbas-voyage-track-by-track/ |
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