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Post by Liebezeit on Nov 16, 2021 13:11:38 GMT
Just gonna chime in with my opinion on Little Things as a single. It's a fantastic choice of a single; I remember that it was just a song, but it accidentally became a Christmas song because B&B thought the melody sounded like Christmas, so they wrote something about it. It's a happy accident that built up into a decent song (which makes it seem less forced and sincere than others that sound a bit forced and lazy cf. Spector Christmas songs), and the lyrics are not as upfront about Christmas, but Santa is in the background and intimate relationship is the obvious subject, but both are highlighted as of importance to a song.
It's not a 'masterpiece' but it's like this fan favourite that only some acquainted fans will get (excuse the gatekeeping), although I have wishful thinking of ABBA considering making Little Things ripe for American radio airplay to any radio stations favouring the melodic and swingy crooner type of Christmas in tandem with putting the Voyage album at shops.
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Post by HOMETIME on Nov 16, 2021 13:17:20 GMT
Wasn't this release almost inevitable? At least there's a video in the offing. It's interesting that Amazon is factored in this time: none of the previous singles had this support. I wonder if the CDs will be available in record shops - it feels like a bigger release.
I'm a little surprised that the song is not being paired on vinyl with Happy New Year. It seems like a missed marketing opportunity. It's something that could be pressed year after year on a variety of coloured vinyls and picture discs...
Update: it seems it's a UK-only release. The official shop won't deliver to other countries. Noticing a number of disgruntled people on ABBA's social media.
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Post by tagaytay on Nov 16, 2021 13:23:57 GMT
i liked the song on first listen and i liked the children's choir at the end. I guess people like me were what ABBA were targetting. but i wont buy the single since i already have the song on the album.
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Post by Alan on Nov 16, 2021 14:08:15 GMT
IMHO it's a truly dreadful decision. This song is cringeworthy. And I say that as a life-long fan. 'When You Danced With Me' would have been an infinitely more sensible choice. That one's already charted without any PR push. It would be pointless to release a song as a single that’s already charted without being one. It charted not that much lower than Just A Notion. It’s likely that this one was decided on as a single as soon as Björn finished writing the lyrics (or maybe even during!). As much as I’m not that keen on it, I fully support this decision over any other song on the album. What would be the point of putting a Christmas song on a studio album and keeping it hidden on there? The purpose of this was the Christmas market (and by that, I mean albums market as singles only really exist to promote albums). I’d raise an eyebrow at any of the other six songs being singles. No disrespect to any of them but I’m actually starting to think the four singles choices are perfect. The big ballad about them, the classic ABBA pop song, an old song with new music as a precursor to the Voyage show, and a Christmas song. I also think the decision to release the first two songs together was a stroke of genius. Maximum interest at that time, so people would download or buy both. A delayed second single would not have got as much interest. Assuming the Happy New Year vinyl release reappears next year, I can see Little Things being included on it then. This year it’s all about new ABBA, they don’t want to mix old and new.
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Post by lamont on Nov 16, 2021 14:21:39 GMT
1 ABBA 28.3k 2 Taylor 27.2k 3 Little Mix 26.7k 4 Ed Sheeran 19.4K 5 Rod 15.5k 6 Wanted 7 Idles 8 Damon 9 Kylie 10 Silk Sonic
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Post by JeniLP on Nov 16, 2021 14:29:16 GMT
The idea of Christmas song as a single in December is surely great, but it is the mood of LT which makes it weak. Had LT offered brightness of JAN or majesty of HNY, it would become a smash hit undoubtedly. But LT is a really nice... but lullaby.
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Post by lamont on Nov 16, 2021 14:33:17 GMT
With ABBA in video, singing round the piano (like the still from the album.) ABBA transfer into their younger selves, and continue the song, even seeing them opening gifts together like a scene from The Name Of The Game video, it may just pull at enough heart strings.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 14:39:46 GMT
Alan - the trouble with both Just Like That and Little Things is that they aren't very good.
I understand the logic of if you have a Christmas song, it should be a single.
But there are better choices. Little Things is very cringy.
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Post by bennybjorn on Nov 16, 2021 15:00:14 GMT
1 ABBA 28.3k 2 Taylor 27.2k 3 Little Mix 26.7k 4 Ed Sheeran 19.4K 5 Rod 15.5k 6 Wanted 7 Idles 8 Damon 9 Kylie 10 Silk Sonic Tuesday’s midweeks Interesting - so Voyage has overtaken Swift and Little Mix since yesterday. That's mainly because it's picking up a lot more airplay than the other two (which is what fuels album sales). Sheeran is 9k behind. I reckon he will close the gap (due to mass airplay with 3 current top-10 songs) but probably not by enough to deny Abba a second week at the top. In my optimistic (or perhaps delusional!) view, the more Voyage succeeds the more likely we are to have further new material.
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Post by lamont on Nov 16, 2021 15:00:22 GMT
Alan - the trouble with both Just Like That and Little Things is that they aren't very good. I understand the logic of if you have a Christmas song, it should be a single. But there are better choices. Little Things is very cringy. Obviously it’s subjective, I like Little Things, ok it can border on the mawkish as I Have A Dream did, but I like that too, if it achieves its aim as keeping the album in the public eye then fine, it’s no more cringeworthy than Cliff’s Mistletoe & Wine, and why not celebrate this time of year, if you are into Christmas, I know some people hate it, but I believe you should have the Christmas you want, whether it’s to celebrate it, or reflect peacefully.
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Post by gary on Nov 16, 2021 15:29:02 GMT
So Long is about to lose its status as ABBA’s worst-ever single!
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Post by HOMETIME on Nov 16, 2021 15:34:54 GMT
I'm looking forward to the video. I wonder if it will change anyone's feeling about the single release? The artwork is lovely.
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Post by Alan on Nov 16, 2021 15:35:23 GMT
Alan - the trouble with both Just Like That and Little Things is that they aren't very good. I can’t argue with you there, as I don’t disagree, but I don’t really see the purpose of putting either of them onto a new studio album unless they’re there for another reason. Does anyone still think that this really is it? No more ABBA, and that Little Things will be their last new single? I’d hope this isn’t the end. One more, brand new, epic single, announced as their last, swiftly followed by a deluxe edition of the album with a few more additional tracks. I’m not convinced these aren’t in the can already, but obviously it will be announced as a surprise. No one will be giving anything away in the meantime. Two unfinished tracks may remain so (or not). This epic single will have been held back from the main album this time, but will be a permanent addition.
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Post by bennybjorn on Nov 16, 2021 16:03:43 GMT
Alan - the trouble with both Just Like That and Little Things is that they aren't very good. I can’t argue with you there, as I don’t disagree, but I don’t really see the purpose of putting either of them onto a new studio album unless they’re there for another reason. Does anyone still think that this really is it? No more ABBA, and that Little Things will be their last new single? I’d hope this isn’t the end. One more, brand new, epic single, announced as their last, swiftly followed by a deluxe edition of the album with a few more additional tracks. I’m not convinced these aren’t in the can already, but obviously it will be announced as a surprise. No one will be giving anything away in the meantime. Two unfinished tracks may remain so (or not). This epic single will have been held back from the main album this time, but will be a permanent addition. Nope, not a chance that this is the end. I'd bet the £982 rebate that I received from the tax office yesterday on it! If radio stations are happy to keep playing new songs off the album, it doesn't make sense to stop releasing them. No Doubt About It would be glued to the Radio 2 A-list for weeks!
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Post by paulman2 on Nov 16, 2021 16:16:14 GMT
johnny,What??? Clearly somebody who likes just the uptempo ABBA songs. I like slow songs for example My Love, My Life (1976). My album ratings. 1.Voulez vous 2.Arrival 3.Abba 4.Super trouper 5.Waterloo 6.Album 7.Ring, ring 8.Vistors 9.Voyage. It is true that I prefer letters in the major scale. Electric violins in the style of the 70's, which appeared in the Silver Convention group. I generally like American music from the 50's to the 90's. For his ingenuity, singing and instrumental qualities. Of course, British music is also very good, there is no doubt about that. I like the Abba group to start a quality European disco. Despite the fact that overall I don't rate Abba's last album well, I'm still glad that they recorded this album. Like Agnetha's album after the breakup of Abba (Wrap Your Arms Around Me and the last abum A), Agnetha has a unique voice color. She had good-sounding high tones.
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Post by madonnabba on Nov 16, 2021 16:18:17 GMT
Could Abba be about to spoil Swift's party? I like the art work for LT. The more I hear it, it has grown on me. Might be a refreshing change from all the brashier Christmas hits.
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Post by Alan on Nov 16, 2021 16:32:03 GMT
paulman2, haven’t you posted that same post already? It looks very familiar. Looks like you deleted the previous one, but it’s not great forum etiquette to repeat yourself verbatim as though it’s a new post and delete a previous one (especially if others have quoted your previous post or replied to it).
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Post by paulman2 on Nov 16, 2021 16:45:45 GMT
I don't agree that it's just a weak song. How can you rate it? According to unfinished warehouses from Abba undeleted? Or according to the Gemini version? I think the songs from Abba Undeleted have their potential. Likewise, the song I Know Him So Well from the musical CHess is very high quality.
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Post by paulman2 on Nov 16, 2021 16:47:06 GMT
This forgotten song from Benny from 2009 has a second verse at a good level.
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Post by paulman2 on Nov 16, 2021 16:51:14 GMT
Alan, I deleted and relocated the post because I realized it wasn't positioned correctly.
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Post by foreverfan on Nov 16, 2021 16:57:01 GMT
Little Things..
I love the diversity of thoughts.. Love, Hate ,Indifferent, its the way it should be , we don't have to like everything that they put out, there are still tracks i don't bother with...
Lets be honest , LT is surgery sweet , twee all those words, but it does work to a point.. I hoping the the video will be something of interest. I'm intrigued.
In a funny sort of way i'm more interested in that video than the track, I'm sure that will come into its own once the Christmas season starts, which is around 3rd December day of release.
At the moment with out the full package Ill say I'm indifferent.....
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Post by johnb on Nov 16, 2021 17:14:08 GMT
I don't hate "Little Things". I just think they tried so hard to make something gentle and harmless that it almost goes unnoticed. The song is a joke that ABBA themselves and many of their original fans are now grandparents and of course the sound of the choir hints at "There's no one quite like grandma". I think it would be great as backing music for a Christmas advert: "Not just any Christmas but a (insert favourite supermarket here) Christmas". Perhaps they should make a spoof Christmas advert video to go with it. That would be good.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 17:24:24 GMT
I'll certainly buy it even though I'm not really in to Christmas songs (I've never bought one before), not sure any other single would have potential to get in to the top 100 now. A video, if true, shown on TV, will give it a big boost, this all makes perfect sense as the song, along with a lovely video, can be televised every year, which will also not only draw people's attention to the album again (not just Voyage but also Gold), but remind people of the abbatar concerts! I've been listening to it quite a few times over the last couple of days and, yes, it is 'twee/sweet', but Frida and Agnetha sound great, which for me, saves it! I agree Alan, HNY and LT would make a great pairing every year, don't really see why they haven't done it now to be honest.
Great news on the mid week charts!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 17:56:54 GMT
So Long is about to lose its status as ABBA’s worst-ever single! I like So Long. Worst single before Little Things has to be Under Attack
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 18:00:45 GMT
Little Things.. I love the diversity of thoughts.. Love, Hate ,Indifferent, its the way it should be , we don't have to like everything that they put out, there are still tracks i don't bother with... Lets be honest , LT is surgery sweet , twee all those words, but it does work to a point.. I hoping the the video will be something of interest. ..... Yes, diversity of opinion is a good thing. In the case of LT I feel it is mainly negative about the song. Any positive is about a potential video. There's quite a few "marmite" songs on Voyage 😃
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Post by gary on Nov 16, 2021 18:22:23 GMT
So Long is about to lose its status as ABBA’s worst-ever single! I like So Long. Worst single before Little Things has to be Under Attack Under Attack is certainly near the bottom!
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Post by gamleman on Nov 16, 2021 18:28:59 GMT
I have just caught up with the news about LT being a UK single. I can't say I greet this news with a great deal of enthusiasm. I've nothing against the song for what it is, but I don't think it deserved a place on the "Voyage" album and I am horrified at the prospect of this song being ABBA's last ever single. I would have preferred to see it released as a B-side or a double-A-side with another song from "Voyage". But I dare say the decision to release LT as a single was made well before the popularity of WYDWM was realised - those two songs on one single would have been a nice Christmas package.
I dare say LT may help promote the "Voyage" album up until Christmas (but will probably also put some people off). Beyond that, I don't think it will have much impact - certainly not on the Singles chart - although, as someone pointed out, its popularity may build year-by-year and it could eventually make Christmas compilations, such as NOW Christmas (HNY is already on it - the final track).
I do hope they're not going to release it every Christmas on different coloured vinyl à la HNY and have the fans buy it over and over again. If they have any such intentions, I would prefer it to be paired with HNY on one single.
Regarding "So Long", this may have been ABBA's worst-performing single in the UK but it wasn't their worst single - not in my book. And we don't even know SL was their worst-performing. It didn't make the Top 50 but it may have bettered the No 59 position of JAN. In the mid-70s when the Top 50 was the full chart, they did publish 10 'Bubblers' - they were the ten singles just below the Top 50 (excluding those that had just left). It would be interesting to know whether SL made the Bubblers.
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Post by Alan on Nov 16, 2021 18:29:24 GMT
So Long is about to lose its status as ABBA’s worst-ever single! I like So Long. Worst single before Little Things has to be Under Attack Yes, I think I’d agree there. I wonder if gary’s dislike might be because it was ABBA’s only genuine UK flop single? The original Ring Ring also has that status, but its remix was a hit. Under Attack with the awful vocoder vocals and “help me” lyrics really isn’t a particularly enjoyable listen. Absolutely no one wanted that version of ABBA represented on Voyage.
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Post by gamleman on Nov 16, 2021 18:45:44 GMT
I should add that despite my reservations about the choice of song for this single, I will buy it, of course. HMV are offering it for £3.99 plus £2 postage. It was HMV that got all formats of "Voyage" to me on the day of release, so I've decided that they deserve my custom for this single.
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Post by gazman on Nov 16, 2021 19:50:23 GMT
I like Little Things and am happy to see it issued as a single.
It does look like ABBA have a good chance of a second week as the UK number 1 album at the end of the week. Sales of the Taylor Swift and Little Mix albums appear to be tailing off somewhat and they might be in danger of being overtaken by Ed Sheeran later in the week. Voyage still appears to have momentum.
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